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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Yup no face plate leaves you open to some hidden extension connected without a filter. Possibly.

      Also most of those filters might be rated for ADSL only.

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      • VioletDragonV
        VioletDragon @stephenw10
        last edited by VioletDragon

        @stephenw10 Yeah I don't understand why BT don't replace them when customers upgrade to VDSL, I guess they just want a easy life.

        Regards

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Just to be clear you wouldn't need to replace the master socket itself there. Just the faceplate on the front that has the filter in it. If you don't have a bunch or hardwired extensions it's pretty easy.

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            diyhouse @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10
            Ah yes,.. for me no hidden extensions,.. and complete socket assembly available on ebay for £7.00
            thanks guys...

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            • VioletDragonV
              VioletDragon @diyhouse
              last edited by

              @diyhouse You can also buy DSL cables which have RJ45 to RJ12 on eBay too. I would post a link but not sure if you are allowed.

              Good luck,

              Regards.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Hmm, you mean RJ12 or RJ11? Also I'm not sure where you would use that. The normal xDSL connection uses a cable that has RJ11 at both ends to connect between the modem and faceplate. Even if it has an RJ45 socket you can still use an RJ11 plug in it.

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                • VioletDragonV
                  VioletDragon @stephenw10
                  last edited by VioletDragon

                  @stephenw10 You can use either, only difference with a RJ12 is it has more pins and a bigger Opening for the sheave for the Solid Core Cabling. RJ12 will fit in a RJ11 Port on the Modem or Router.

                  RJ45 from Wall socket to RJ12/11 to the Modem. Using Ethernet cabling for the DSL cable improves the connection speed too.

                  Regards

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Mmm, that could be true if it's a long run I guess. I was never able to see any difference here but compared to length of cable I have to the cabinet it's pretty insignificant.

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                      diyhouse @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10
                      Hi guys,. New face plate etc ordered.. due end of the week...

                      2023 Openreach Telephone Master Socket NTE5c MK2 & VDSL/ADSL MK4-Faceplate only

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                        diyhouse @diyhouse
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                        @diyhouse Whilst waiting for filter,. can anyone clarify which mode I should run in,...as I can sort of see arguments for both.

                        DraytekMode.png

                        I will set the MTU 1492,.. when I reconnect..
                        Many Tx

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yup you want modem/bridge mode there.

                          In router mode you end up with a private IP on pfSense and the Draytek does the PPPoE session, NAT and routing etc.

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                            diyhouse @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 Thanks for that Stephen,.. Just wondered,.. and your feedback eliminates one of my unknowns ( I'm not sure )...

                            MK4 Openreach box arrived today,.. had to have a nose inside,.. so for those interested,.. here it is.

                            20240918_163240.jpg

                            One other question,.. the cable connections,.. I found this,.. is this correct,.. and if so which do I make the twisted pairs,.. as this will effect the noise quality etc?
                            Many tx

                            Screenshot from 2024-09-18 17-19-08.png

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              You can almost certainly use the cable you already have that you were connecting to the filter.

                              You can connect an RJ11/RJ12 plug into an RJ45 socket, it just uses the central 4 pins.

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                                diyhouse @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 Update:- Checked speed on Sunday 22nd Sept,.. and surprisingly my upload and download speeds had gone back up to 71/10Mbps... I assume this is due to BTs learning what the max speed possible is on a line,..
                                As of approx. 1hr ago I installed the new BT MK4 filter, with my new lead ( using some CAT5e cable approx. 2m ),.. I essentially followed the guidance on this
                                YouTube video,.. yes he will sell a lead to you,.. but it is useful for which pins to use,.. and how best to wire RJ45 to RJ12...
                                I did put a squirt of WD40 on the connection pins,.. as they may get damp in the loft,.. and to my way of thinking it keeps the contacts from corroding...
                                TAFNF.. we will see how long connectivity stays up...

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                                • VioletDragonV
                                  VioletDragon @diyhouse
                                  last edited by

                                  @diyhouse My Mate Vince, use to have a eBay shop but then doesn't do that much these days, I just terminate the Ethernet cable with RJ45 to RJ12 myself. I make them for folk too but not made any since as been a tad busy.

                                  10Mbps up that's a bit slow, My DSL connection with BT Business & Zen Business I get 20mbps up. This also depends how far you are away from the Cab too.

                                  Regards

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                                    diyhouse @VioletDragon
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                                    @VioletDragon Yes,.. I was a little disappointed in my upload speed...
                                    Considering I am only about 200Meters from the cabinet,.. and then only a 100meters from the actual exchange... ( yes the exchange is actually closer.. Literately just across the road, and some yards down :-) )
                                    My plan was to see how this config goes,.. before re-applying the Dratek Modem,.. and being able to see 'whats inside the modem performance '

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                                    • VioletDragonV
                                      VioletDragon @diyhouse
                                      last edited by

                                      @diyhouse Do you see the same speeds with the old VDSL BT Modem as well as the Dreytek ? how are you plugging the modem and Dreytek into the firewall ? Port on switch in a VLAN or straight into the WAN Port of the Firewall ?

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                                        diyhouse @VioletDragon
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                                        @VioletDragon said in WAN periodically Rebooting:

                                        the same speeds with the old VDSL BT Modem as well as the Dreytek ?

                                        from what I remember,.. many moons ago,.. the old Modem used to give these speeds,. albeit in the 62/15Mbps ball park.

                                        The Draytek,.. has only managed to deliver 25/9Mpbs with many breaks in connection...

                                        I did think about changing filter and modem together,.. but that does not really help when trying to identify a single cause if something goes wrong...

                                        how are you plugging the modem and Dreytek into the firewall ?

                                        This is done via a good quality, ( or at least it is supposed to be ),.. short CAT6e ethernet cable into the 1st port on the pfsense PC,.. ( the firewall PC has 4 ethernet ports,. one for WAN modem connection, another to local network,.. another to some VLANs, and the other port is unsued ), but never assume I always say,.. I will at some point try another cable.. to eliminate that unknown

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          10M seems suspiciously like one of the available paid rates. Is it linked at that speed or just tested at that?

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                                          • VioletDragonV
                                            VioletDragon @diyhouse
                                            last edited by VioletDragon

                                            @diyhouse interesting. Did you test the Dreytek on its own without pfsense? When you do a Speedtest do you see any loss on gateway?

                                            Seem a bit strange though. Which package are you on with BT?

                                            Regards.

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