WAN periodically Rebooting
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@diyhouse Depends on the Faceplate / Master Socket. You don't need the filter if you are using the MK4 Master Socket.
I have replaced a ton of the old type wall sockets for clients as they are not good enough for VDSL, the filters are built into the MK4. I recommend looking into replacing the old Master Sockets with the new MK4. then use a RJ45 to RJ12 cabling is a lot better than the flat BT Spec DSL cable.
Going with the new faceplate will help out a lot with poor speeds and WAN dropping out.
New Faceplate,
Old wallsocket,
Regards
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@VioletDragon
Yep this is my config, socket wise
So Old config then...
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@diyhouse Yep I would look at replacing the socket as at that is a more modern faceplate you can just replace the faceplate for the MK4 then run a Ethernet cable with a RJ45 to RJ12. I need to make some more. I use Cat6a then just crimp them.
In some cases BT won't replace them if they send BT guys out but it's a 3rd party working on behalf of BT then they will. You can buy the faceplate off ebay with the backbox for cheap.
Regards
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Yup no face plate leaves you open to some hidden extension connected without a filter. Possibly.
Also most of those filters might be rated for ADSL only.
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@stephenw10 Yeah I don't understand why BT don't replace them when customers upgrade to VDSL, I guess they just want a easy life.
Regards
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Just to be clear you wouldn't need to replace the master socket itself there. Just the faceplate on the front that has the filter in it. If you don't have a bunch or hardwired extensions it's pretty easy.
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@stephenw10
Ah yes,.. for me no hidden extensions,.. and complete socket assembly available on ebay for £7.00
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@diyhouse You can also buy DSL cables which have RJ45 to RJ12 on eBay too. I would post a link but not sure if you are allowed.
Good luck,
Regards.
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Hmm, you mean RJ12 or RJ11? Also I'm not sure where you would use that. The normal xDSL connection uses a cable that has RJ11 at both ends to connect between the modem and faceplate. Even if it has an RJ45 socket you can still use an RJ11 plug in it.
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@stephenw10 You can use either, only difference with a RJ12 is it has more pins and a bigger Opening for the sheave for the Solid Core Cabling. RJ12 will fit in a RJ11 Port on the Modem or Router.
RJ45 from Wall socket to RJ12/11 to the Modem. Using Ethernet cabling for the DSL cable improves the connection speed too.
Regards
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Mmm, that could be true if it's a long run I guess. I was never able to see any difference here but compared to length of cable I have to the cabinet it's pretty insignificant.
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@stephenw10
Hi guys,. New face plate etc ordered.. due end of the week...2023 Openreach Telephone Master Socket NTE5c MK2 & VDSL/ADSL MK4-Faceplate only
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@diyhouse Whilst waiting for filter,. can anyone clarify which mode I should run in,...as I can sort of see arguments for both.
I will set the MTU 1492,.. when I reconnect..
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Yup you want modem/bridge mode there.
In router mode you end up with a private IP on pfSense and the Draytek does the PPPoE session, NAT and routing etc.
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@stephenw10 Thanks for that Stephen,.. Just wondered,.. and your feedback eliminates one of my unknowns ( I'm not sure )...
MK4 Openreach box arrived today,.. had to have a nose inside,.. so for those interested,.. here it is.
One other question,.. the cable connections,.. I found this,.. is this correct,.. and if so which do I make the twisted pairs,.. as this will effect the noise quality etc?
Many tx
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You can almost certainly use the cable you already have that you were connecting to the filter.
You can connect an RJ11/RJ12 plug into an RJ45 socket, it just uses the central 4 pins.
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@stephenw10 Update:- Checked speed on Sunday 22nd Sept,.. and surprisingly my upload and download speeds had gone back up to 71/10Mbps... I assume this is due to BTs learning what the max speed possible is on a line,..
As of approx. 1hr ago I installed the new BT MK4 filter, with my new lead ( using some CAT5e cable approx. 2m ),.. I essentially followed the guidance on this
YouTube video,.. yes he will sell a lead to you,.. but it is useful for which pins to use,.. and how best to wire RJ45 to RJ12...
I did put a squirt of WD40 on the connection pins,.. as they may get damp in the loft,.. and to my way of thinking it keeps the contacts from corroding...
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@diyhouse My Mate Vince, use to have a eBay shop but then doesn't do that much these days, I just terminate the Ethernet cable with RJ45 to RJ12 myself. I make them for folk too but not made any since as been a tad busy.
10Mbps up that's a bit slow, My DSL connection with BT Business & Zen Business I get 20mbps up. This also depends how far you are away from the Cab too.
Regards
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@VioletDragon Yes,.. I was a little disappointed in my upload speed...
Considering I am only about 200Meters from the cabinet,.. and then only a 100meters from the actual exchange... ( yes the exchange is actually closer.. Literately just across the road, and some yards down :-) )
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@diyhouse Do you see the same speeds with the old VDSL BT Modem as well as the Dreytek ? how are you plugging the modem and Dreytek into the firewall ? Port on switch in a VLAN or straight into the WAN Port of the Firewall ?
