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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Oct 28, 2024, 4:28 PM

    In the LAN DHCP server config have you entered any DNS servers to pass to clients when they pull a lease?

    If you don't enter anything there it will pass the DHCP server address (LAN address) to clients to use for DNS by default. That means they use Unbound in pfSense which should work on both WANs.

    If you passed, for example, 8.8.4.4 or 1.1.1.1 that can only work via one WAN.

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      ahole4sure @stephenw10
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        ahole4sure @stephenw10
        last edited by Oct 28, 2024, 5:18 PM

        @stephenw10

        So I’m on my iPhone so it not great screenshots
        But here are my LAN DHCP server settings

        Should I change something? It’s kinda greyed out but DNS is listed as 192.168.1.1

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          ahole4sure @stephenw10
          last edited by Oct 28, 2024, 5:21 PM

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            ahole4sure @stephenw10
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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by Oct 28, 2024, 6:12 PM

              Ok, so it's passing the LAN interface. That should be fine for anything that uses it. That one client is hard coded to use 8.8.8.8.

              The root issue here though still seems to be that Unbound in pfSense is not using the WAN connection when WAN2 is down. I think you will need to test on site though.

              Try setting up another failover group that has WAN as the tier1 gateway. Then try setting that as system default and retest. In that situation Unbound should already be using WAN when WAN2 is disconnected and should continue to work. It should also failover to WAN2.

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                ahole4sure @stephenw10
                last edited by Oct 29, 2024, 1:59 AM

                @stephenw10
                Back on site
                Set up the second test gateway group
                WAN as Tier 1 , WAN2 as tier 2

                When I set the test group as default, it switched to WAN β€”β€”- no internet/ DNS

                Switched back to other gateway, internet/DNS returned without reboot

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Oct 29, 2024, 1:58 PM

                  Hmm, were you able to see DNS traffic on WAN in the states?

                  Starts to look like the WAN connection just blocks or intercepts DNS for some reason.

                  You can try to test that directly from the pfSense command line with something like:
                  dig @8.8.8.8 netgate.com -b 192.168.2.2

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                    ahole4sure @stephenw10
                    last edited by Oct 29, 2024, 2:55 PM

                    @stephenw10
                    No joy directly from command line!

                    If I knew for sure another failover device/method would for sure work I would consider returning the Internet Air devices - lol
                    Now it's just irritating that this is so difficult (esp with expert help like you)

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Oct 29, 2024, 3:04 PM

                      Did the WAN IP change from 192.168.2.2? By binding to that address the query is forced to use the WAN.

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                        ahole4sure @stephenw10
                        last edited by Oct 29, 2024, 3:11 PM

                        @stephenw10
                        OMG, sorry
                        I'll have to get back on-site this afternoon - looks like the WAN device went offline or somethinglogin-to-view login-to-view

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Oct 29, 2024, 4:09 PM

                          Ah, that would do it. πŸ˜‰

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                            ahole4sure @stephenw10
                            last edited by Oct 29, 2024, 9:53 PM

                            @stephenw10
                            Got back on site and restarted the WAN
                            It is back up and going on 192.168.2.2
                            If I do the test gateway group , I am still losing DNS/Internet with WAN as Tier 1 and primary internet

                            But I did get differnt result with the command line
                            see below

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 12:32 AM

                              Hmm, well that looks OK. Try setting Unbound (DNS Resolver) to forwarding mode so it uses the configured remote DNS server directly. You should also disable DNSSec whilst testing that.

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                                tman222
                                last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 2:18 AM

                                Just wanted to chime in here and mention that I have been using pfSense with AT&T Internet Air in failover configuration for about a year now without issues (primary WAN is fiber). During that time I have not observed any evidence that DNS might be intercepted somehow on the Internet Air side - DNS is working fine for the failover gateway group I've got setup with Unbound in resolver mode. So I think in this case it's still a misconfiguration somewhere in the pfSense settings.

                                What do you have set for DNS Server Override and DNS Resolution Behavior under General Setup?

                                Also, this section in the pfsense docs will be good to review if you're switching over from resolver to forwarder and using multiple wan connections:

                                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/multiwan/interfaces-and-dns.html#dns-configuration

                                Hope this helps.

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                                  ahole4sure @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 2:36 AM

                                  @stephenw10 @tman222
                                  Ok so I'm not completely sure which setting fixed things BUT by setting DNS Resolver to forwarding and disabling DNSSec - the WAN (ATT Internet Ait ) Internet worked when enabling the Test Gateway group1

                                  @tman222
                                  I attached screnshots of my settings - how does that compare to yours? Do you have the Internet Air setup on a seperate "local" subnet like I do? Shame it doesn't have a full "bridge mode". Also I could not seemingly get DMZ to work in that with it enabled my pfsense interface still shows the local IP address - it doesn't pass through the public IP

                                  The screeshots show the active test gateway. The command line results AND the succesful "speedtest" (shich was never accesible before) with the test gateway and then the regular gateway. AND my general setup settings page for @tman222 question

                                  How should I permanenetly set things ? Any explanation or thoughts on what is happening?login-to-view login-to-view login-to-view login-to-view

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                                    ahole4sure @tman222
                                    last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 2:39 AM

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                                      ahole4sure @tman222
                                      last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 2:41 AM

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                                        tman222 @ahole4sure
                                        last edited by tman222 Oct 30, 2024, 2:58 AM Oct 30, 2024, 2:57 AM

                                        @ahole4sure - glad you got things up and running.

                                        My settings are similar except that I'm using Unbound in resolver mode so I have no additional DNS Servers defined under General Setup > DNS Server Settings.

                                        Which gateway did you end up getting from AT&T for the Internet Air service? The one I received does allow for IP passthrough so I can get a public IP on the pfSense side.

                                        Hope this helps.

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Oct 30, 2024, 10:56 AM

                                          Mmm, interesting. Yeah it should work is resolving mode behind a failover gateway group as @tman222 shows. Curious that it's failing for you.

                                          You should not have a gateway set against 8.8.8.8 so it's available for use on either WAN. Especially since you have at least one device hard coded to use that directly.

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