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      ahole4sure @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10
      So freaking weird
      I made the change of the source port and then I could no longer access http://192.168.2.1
      I can still ping the address

      So weird - I tried changing it back and it still wouldn't work
      hitting my head lolImage 11-10-24 at 6.32 PM.jpeg Image 11-10-24 at 6.32 PM (1).jpeg Image 11-10-24 at 6.33 PM.jpeg

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Hmm, odd. Try removing the ports entirely. There's no real reason to specify a port there, all traffic between LAN and the modem would need to be NAT'd.

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          ahole4sure @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 Well I tried to remove all the port entries and still no success

          Whats really odd is that if I activate my Wireguard VPN into my network -- viola , I have access to http://192.168.2.1. (notice in my settings for the tunnel I have allowed IP ranges including 192.168.2.0/24

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Hmm, almost sounds like that NAT rule is actually breaking the connection. Since with the source port set to 80 it would not have been matching the traffic.

            Try disabling the rule.

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              ahole4sure @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 OMG!! That worked - after all that

              Thanks again

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                ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 Oddly I changed back to "Auto Mode" for Outbound NAT and it still workedImage 11-10-24 at 7.23 PM.jpeg

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Hmm, interesting! That still using 192.168.2.1 to access it? It seems like the Nighthawk has a route to the public IP then. In which case that's no problem.

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                    ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 yes still using 192.168.2.1

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Should be fine then. Some modems do not require a NAT rules and can use the public IP on WAN to reply to.

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                        ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10
                        Now that I have survived that ordeal , lol (with you help) - I have to replicate the process at our second location.

                        My pfsense device at that location only has 4 ethernet ports just like the one I have at location 1 - however, at location 2, I have all 4 ports used as per the pics. 2 are for security camera ports, one for and eero wifi and 1 for my NAS.

                        I have them on differnt networks.

                        What would be the best way to salvage my current equipment and still setup a failover internet (second WAN)? since my ports are filled
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                          ahole4sure @ahole4sure
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                          @ahole4sure Image 11-12-24 at 11.54 AM.jpeg Image 11-12-24 at 11.54 AM (1).jpeg Image 11-12-24 at 11.55 AM.jpeg Image 11-12-24 at 11.55 AM.jpeg

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Add a VLAN capable switch and use it to separate some ports is what I would do there.

                            It might be possible to use the eero device to do that if it supports VLANs.

                            I assume you need to be able to filter between those three interal interfaces with different rules for each?

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                              ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10
                              Haven’t used VLAN for this but wanted to make sure == I could buy this $20 switch
                              Change maybe my pFsense Camera interface to a VLAN parent interface?
                              Connect to one of the switch ports
                              And then have one port assigned as the Camera VLAN
                              And then could I assign another VLAN port as the WAN2 connection for my ATT failover ??

                              Would that work? Can a VLAN port be used as a WAN connection

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Yes exactly like that. The ports on the switch can be configured as access ports on different VLANs. The link to pfSense can carry all the VLANs. pfSense treats the VLANs as separate interfaces. And yes it can be a WAN, or any interface type.

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                                  ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 Perfect. thanks

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                                    ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10

                                    Currently at my primary business location I have cameras on the same subnet as other devices - like the NAS, etc. My second business location as you might remember from above discussion has cameras on a seperate subnet.
                                    Ideally I would like to keep acessing my cameras with the Synology Surveillance station which is within my network. However an alternative is to use the camera manufacturer software - but that requires a port forward., to be accessed externally.

                                    Is there a way to open several LAN IP addresses to a specific port - or even entire subnet to a particular port ? Or do a I need to change each individual camera to a non-default individual port?

                                    Just trying to be the safest possible if I end up opening another port externally

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      Hmm, well I would avoid opening port forwards to each camera like that if at all possible. Especially if they are on the same subnet as other local resources.

                                      To do it you would need to use a different external port for each camera and forward that to the internal camera IP. That way they can all be forwarded from the same external IP. But don't do that!

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                                        ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10
                                        OK. Maybe I better just keep doing the VPN connection and use of surveillance station which is part of the Symbology NAS
                                        If that is the case and a VPN is used for external access with no open external ports is there really a strong security reason to have the cameras on a different subnet?

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Because any IoT device like that is always going to be a target for exploits. They usually only see updates for limited time (if you're lucky!). And if they are on the same subnet as other things then if a camera is compromised anything running on it will be able to directly connect. Or at least try to.

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                                            ahole4sure @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10
                                            Lost again - hopefully you will have time / energy to help:

                                            As I mentioned I am trying to setup the addnl WAN ATT modem on my second store system. I mentioned that my pfsense device is a 4 port device with all 4 ports utilized. We talked about a VLAN capable switch - I purchased a TP-Link TL-SG105E
                                            I am 5hrs off site so I am trying to get up to speed to manage remotely by trying the switch on my current system.

                                            So I have created a VLAN with a tag of 10 on interface igb3.

                                            I have TRIED to setup my TP-Link switch (in preparation for the setup that I am currently offsite from) with port 1 being the "trunk" that a cable will be connected to igb3 (on the pfsense).
                                            Port 1 is untagged for VLAN ID 10 and is identified as a "1" in PVID Settings
                                            Port 2 is tagged for for VLAN ID 10 and is identified as "10" in PVID settings
                                            (Port 3 and 4 if needed will be VLAN ID 20 for the additional LAN cable that is needed for the Camera segment of my network)

                                            The current trouble I am having is that my identical ATT device, when connected to port 2 of the switch, is not passing through the IP address when I created or setup the interface as DHCP -- the other ATT device when connected directly to one of the pfsense interfaces pushed through ATT static publc IP address. And if I try to set the IP address manually it doesn't behave correctly- says offline

                                            I think I must be setting the VLANs and the switch incorrectly (tags vs untagged, etc). Would you expect a device (in this case the ATT modem) to behave the same way when connected via VLAN and the switch compared to connecting directly to the pfsense physical port? I thought that was the whole purpose

                                            Do you see any glaring errors in my setup?IMG_0228.jpeg Image 11-20-24 at 6.21 PM.jpeg IMG_0229.jpeg

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