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    UNOFFICIAL GUIDE: RUN SWAP OVER USB DRIVE IN PFSENSE

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    • JonathanLeeJ
      JonathanLee
      last edited by JonathanLee

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      Swap getting some use. So now you know it works, do not use it nonstop, or plan to abuse it, you will kill drives, this is the emergency tank, and you have to understand why you need this before just adding it and using it like RAM. I use it for one thing updates so snort and clamav don't crash every once and a while they update at the same time.

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      • JonathanLeeJ
        JonathanLee
        last edited by

        Part2:

        GET DUMP TO STILL WORK:

        if you notice there is a SWAP already on the freebsd drive
        is it ada0s3b

        WARNING DO NOT MESS UP OR YOU CAN BONK UP STUFF BAD HERE AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A FULL REINSTALL.

        Geom name: ada0s3
        modified: false
        state: OK
        fwheads: 16
        fwsectors: 63
        last: 249406126
        first: 0
        entries: 8
        scheme: BSD
        Providers:
        1. Name: ada0s3a
           Mediasize: 120590425600 (112G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 0
           Stripeoffset: 339747328
           Mode: r1w1e1
           rawtype: 27
           length: 120590425600
           offset: 8192
           type: freebsd-zfs
           index: 1
           end: 235528190
           start: 16
        2. Name: ada0s3b
           Mediasize: 7105150976 (6.6G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 0
           Stripeoffset: 120930172928
           Mode: r0w0e0
           rawtype: 1
           length: 7105150976
           offset: 120590433792
           type: freebsd-swap
           index: 2
           end: 249405438
           start: 235528191
        Consumers:
        1. Name: ada0s3
           Mediasize: 127695937024 (119G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 0
           Stripeoffset: 339739136
           Mode: r1w1e2
        

        So I want to use ada0s3b for just dump now and still have the swap on the usb.

        Here is how.

        1. Create a cron job
          @reboot dumpon /dev/ada0s3b

        2. copy the /etc/rc.dumpon to /etc/rc.dumpon.old

        3. edit the /etc/rc.dumpon to just have

        #!/bin/sh
        #
        # rc.dumpon
        #
        # part of pfSense (https://www.pfsense.org)
        # Copyright (c) 2004-2013 BSD Perimeter
        # Copyright (c) 2013-2016 Electric Sheep Fencing
        # Copyright (c) 2014-2023 Rubicon Communications, LLC (Netgate)
        # All rights reserved.
        #
        # Based on src/etc/rc.d/dumpon from FreeBSD
        #
        # Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
        # you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
        # You may obtain a copy of the License at
        #
        # http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
        #
        # Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
        # distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
        # WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
        # See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
        # limitations under the License.
        
        ln -fs /dev/ada0s3b /dev/dumpdev
        echo "OK ADAPTED ADA0S3B ONLINE"
        return 0
        
        

        Save and reboot it should now use swap on the usb drive and crash reports will still show up.

        If needed here is the old file it needs to return the dump location and a value so that savecore knows where to save the core dumps, you see here the code is all depended on the fstab file that we adapted with .eli so it wont work with that anymore so we have to adapt it.
        OLD CODE:

        #!/bin/sh
        #
        # rc.dumpon
        #
        # part of pfSense (https://www.pfsense.org)
        # Copyright (c) 2004-2013 BSD Perimeter
        # Copyright (c) 2013-2016 Electric Sheep Fencing
        # Copyright (c) 2014-2023 Rubicon Communications, LLC (Netgate)
        # All rights reserved.
        #
        # Based on src/etc/rc.d/dumpon from FreeBSD
        #
        # Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
        # you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
        # You may obtain a copy of the License at
        #
        # http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
        #
        # Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
        # distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
        # WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
        # See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
        # limitations under the License.
        
        dumpon_try()
        {
        	if /sbin/dumpon "${1}" ; then
        		# Make a symlink in devfs for savecore
        		echo "Using ${1} for dump device."
        		ln -fs "${1}" /dev/dumpdev
        		return 0
        	fi
        	echo "Unable to specify $1 as a dump device."
        	return 1
        }
        
        # Enable dumpdev so that savecore can see it. Enable it
        # early so a crash early in the boot process can be caught.
        #
        while read dev mp type more ; do
        	[ "${type}" = "swap" ] || continue
        	[ -c "${dev}" ] || continue
        	dumpon_try "${dev}" && works=true
        done </etc/fstab
        if [ "${works}" != "true" ]; then
        	# fstab entries did not work, try swap labels
        	for dev in /dev/label/swap*; do
        		if [ ! -e "${dev}" ]; then
        			continue;
        		fi
        		dumpon_try "${dev}" && works=true
        	done
        	if [ "${works}" != "true" ]; then
        		echo "No suitable dump device was found." 1>&2
        		exit
        	fi
        fi
        
        

        Now it works with both core dumps and swap.
        Happy Holidays

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
          last edited by

          When you run gpart add, use -l swap<something> to give the partition a name and then only reference it by that name. Never reference removable disks/slices/partitions by their device names since those can change depending on the order they are probed. Really any disk if you can help it, but especially not removable ones.

          Just don't use a low number since those might conflict with swap already on existing disks. But if you name it something like swap99 or swapUSB that should still work.

          By using that label name you shouldn't have to modify rc.dumpon either since it checks any disk label starting with swap* if it can't find a suitable dump partition in fstab.

          If your old swap partition still had a device entry in fstab then the install must not have been recent. You could add a label with gpart or glabel. The installer names them starting with swap0 now, so a mirror might have swap0 and swap1 for example.

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          • JonathanLeeJ
            JonathanLee @jimp
            last edited by

            @jimp said in UNOFFICIAL GUIDE: RUN SWAP OVER USB DRIVE IN PFSENSE:

            glabel

            Thanks

            "glabel" I will fix this now

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            • JonathanLeeJ
              JonathanLee @jimp
              last edited by JonathanLee

              @jimp

              Ok so the swapUSB lable is added how do I add this to the fstab file now so it can be mounted? /dev shows no label folder. Goal is to only use swapUSB for swap and the onboard ada0s3b for dump.

              I do not know how to add a label to ada0s3b as this is the pfsense drive I do not really want to touch it. Is there a vetted command I can do to add the label that is needed so it can be used?

              the USB uses .eli also so would I need to do swapUSB.eli?

              Geom name: ada0
              modified: false
              state: OK
              fwheads: 16
              fwsectors: 63
              last: 250069679
              first: 1
              entries: 4
              scheme: MBR
              Providers:
              1. Name: ada0s1
                 Mediasize: 272629760 (260M)
                 Sectorsize: 512
                 Stripesize: 0
                 Stripeoffset: 512
                 Mode: r0w0e0
                 efimedia: HD(1,MBR,00000000,0x1,0x82000)
                 rawtype: 239
                 length: 272629760
                 offset: 512
                 type: efi
                 index: 1
                 end: 532480
                 start: 1
              2. Name: ada0s2
                 Mediasize: 67108864 (64M)
                 Sectorsize: 512
                 Stripesize: 0
                 Stripeoffset: 272630272
                 Mode: r0w0e0
                 efimedia: HD(2,MBR,00000000,0x82001,0x20000)
                 rawtype: 11
                 length: 67108864
                 offset: 272630272
                 type: fat32
                 index: 2
                 end: 663552
                 start: 532481
              3. Name: ada0s3
                 Mediasize: 127695937024 (119G)
                 Sectorsize: 512
                 Stripesize: 0
                 Stripeoffset: 339739136
                 Mode: r1w1e2
                 efimedia: HD(3,MBR,00000000,0xa2001,0xedda2af)
                 attrib: active
                 rawtype: 165
                 length: 127695937024
                 offset: 339739136
                 type: freebsd
                 index: 3
                 end: 250069679
                 start: 663553
              Consumers:
              1. Name: ada0
                 Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
                 Sectorsize: 512
                 Mode: r1w1e3
              
              Geom name: ada0s3
              modified: false
              state: OK
              fwheads: 16
              fwsectors: 63
              last: 249406126
              first: 0
              entries: 8
              scheme: BSD
              Providers:
              1. Name: ada0s3a
                 Mediasize: 120590425600 (112G)
                 Sectorsize: 512
                 Stripesize: 0
                 Stripeoffset: 339747328
                 Mode: r1w1e1
                 rawtype: 27
                 length: 120590425600
                 offset: 8192
                 type: freebsd-zfs
                 index: 1
                 end: 235528190
                 start: 16
              2. Name: ada0s3b
                 Mediasize: 7105150976 (6.6G)
                 Sectorsize: 512
                 Stripesize: 0
                 Stripeoffset: 120930172928
                 Mode: r0w0e0
                 rawtype: 1
                 length: 7105150976
                 offset: 120590433792
                 type: freebsd-swap
                 index: 2
                 end: 249405438
                 start: 235528191
              Consumers:
              1. Name: ada0s3
                 Mediasize: 127695937024 (119G)
                 Sectorsize: 512
                 Stripesize: 0
                 Stripeoffset: 339739136
                 Mode: r1w1e2
              
              Geom name: da0
              modified: false
              state: OK
              fwheads: 255
              fwsectors: 63
              last: 250069639
              first: 40
              entries: 128
              scheme: GPT
              Providers:
              1. Name: da0p1
                 Mediasize: 8589934592 (8.0G)
                 Sectorsize: 512
                 Stripesize: 4096
                 Stripeoffset: 0
                 Mode: r1w1e1
                 efimedia: HD(1,GPT,25749237-bf08-11ef-9a7e-90ec770dda25,0x800,0x1000000)
                 rawuuid: 25749237-bf08-11ef-9a7e-90ec770dda25
                 rawtype: 516e7cb5-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
                 label: swapUSB
                 length: 8589934592
                 offset: 1048576
                 type: freebsd-swap
                 index: 1
                 end: 16779263
                 start: 2048
              Consumers:
              1. Name: da0
                 Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
                 Sectorsize: 512
                 Stripesize: 4096
                 Stripeoffset: 0
                 Mode: r1w1e2
              

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by

                The labels are in /dev/gpt/, so replace the /dev/<device> path in fstab with /dev/gpt/swapUSB

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                • JonathanLeeJ
                  JonathanLee @jimp
                  last edited by

                  @jimp said in UNOFFICIAL GUIDE: RUN SWAP OVER USB DRIVE IN PFSENSE:

                  /dev/gpt/swapUSB

                  sorry to bug you just to confirm

                  I ran this
                  gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 1M -s 8GB -l swapUSB da0

                  now the label is no longer null

                  this has the entry
                  /dev/da0p1.eli none swap sw 0 0

                  change this to
                  /dev/gpt/swapUSB.eli

                  for /dev/ada0s3b that I have the link created to /dev/dumpdev

                  this as far as I know has no label on it so how would rc.dumpon find this dump can not use .eli so I have dump using the onboard SSD and not the usb. Should I make the label just USBswap that way it avoids it and uses the other entry?

                  I do not really want to use destroy to remove the label on /dev/ada0s3b

                  however this should have label swap0 for it so rc.dumpon can just locate that first?

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                  • JonathanLeeJ
                    JonathanLee @jimp
                    last edited by

                    @jimp I have no dev/gpt/ showing in my filesystem because that is the usb right?

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      You shouldn't have to destroy the existing swap on the disk to change the label.

                      # glabel label swap0 /dev/ada0s3b
                      

                      And then when you reboot it should be fine.

                      The labels will disappear from /dev/gpt/ when the partitions are mounted/in-use but you should see the right thing happening in swapinfo and checking the dumpdev symlink.

                      You shouldn't need to manually do anything other than adding the label and adjusting fstab.

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                      • JonathanLeeJ
                        JonathanLee @jimp
                        last edited by

                        @jimp

                        You the Man!!
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                        • JonathanLeeJ
                          JonathanLee @jimp
                          last edited by JonathanLee

                          @jimp

                          I have an issue after reboot

                          b29853d4-96de-4bd0-a7ad-fe8acf8bfac4-image.png

                          It shows both now with the swapinfo command

                          Shell Output - swapinfo -kh
                          Device              Size     Used    Avail Capacity
                          /dev/gpt/swapUSB.eli     8.0G       0B     8.0G     0%
                          /dev/label/swap0     6.6G       0B     6.6G     0%
                          Total                15G       0B      15G     0%
                          

                          It should only show /dev/gpt/swapUSB.eli for external swap because that is the only entry in the fstab file. However, both are being listed. the swap0 I only want for dump use coredumps because it is onboard ssd with the pfsense software swap would kill the drive faster. This was my issue before I couldn’t do coredumps on swapUSB because dump can’t use .eli so I wanted to separate swap from the coredumps location. For external usb based swap I want to use .eli to protect it from memory leaks so no one walks off with the drive with everything on it. I do not want to overload the onboard stuff because it is an SSD with pfsense.

                          dump on is correct thank you this does not use .eli it works does core dumps to that location. Weird that swapinfo shows both now that the labels are added. When is this checked what else loads the info into swap ?

                          DiagnosticsCommand Prompt
                          Shell Output - dumpon -l
                          label/swap0
                          

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                          • jimpJ
                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                            last edited by

                            The boot script should only be using swap entries listed in /etc/fstab/ so make sure swap0 isn't in fstab at all. The rc.dumpon script doesn't need an entry in fstab so long as the label exists.

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                            • JonathanLeeJ
                              JonathanLee @jimp
                              last edited by JonathanLee

                              @jimp
                              I only have one entry in fstab what is weird after a reboot if I do swapinfo it shows both now.. I tested it did a crash and I do get coredumps now on the right drive and that is amazing !! If fstab lists one swap why is it now adding the swap0 to it and not just the swapUSB?

                              04f1ec3b-0f5f-4fb0-aefd-ae88f3d9d1c8-image.png
                              (Swapinfo showing 2 different swaps)

                              93cb4fc9-c7d0-43a2-aa2b-7e6f72b71e04-image.png
                              (What is listed in fstab)

                              7a3e7b74-33de-4cdd-ac90-48ab228347d1-image.png
                              Eli is loading also with the correct partition and encrypting on logs

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                              • JonathanLeeJ
                                JonathanLee
                                last edited by

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                                  mer @JonathanLee
                                  last edited by

                                  @JonathanLee FreeBSD has this idea of "device withering".
                                  If your swap partition is NOT mounted/in use, you will likely see a "/dev/da0p2" AND a "/dev/gpt/whateverlabelyougaveit".
                                  Then the first exclusive reference (think mount) makes everything else disappear.
                                  if you do "swapon /dev/da0p2" the /dev/gpt disappears.
                                  If you do "swapon /dev/gpt/whatever" the /dev/da0p2 will likely disappear (not always since this is basically raw device)
                                  Your swapinfo showing both /dev/gpt/swapUSB.eli and /dev/label/swap0 indicate to me they are on 2 different physical devices.
                                  If they are not different physical devices, you have something very odd going on.

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                                  • JonathanLeeJ
                                    JonathanLee
                                    last edited by JonathanLee

                                    Yes swapusb is a usb and the other is the SSD on the device itself. Two different devices, also .Eli is in use so dump can not use that device only swap can

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                                    • JonathanLeeJ
                                      JonathanLee @mer
                                      last edited by

                                      @mer I wonder if I do a cron job on it and swapon set it to be specific for usb if it would work, I opened a redmine as the current rc.dumpon does not include a if Eli and or if usb for situations like this. It was not closed right away so it could be fixed with a simple if else situation on the code.

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                                      • JonathanLeeJ
                                        JonathanLee
                                        last edited by

                                        Fix is to set swapoff on the other drive with a cron job no code is adapted. I am going to update my unofficial guide

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                                          mer @JonathanLee
                                          last edited by

                                          @JonathanLee Keep in mind "swapoff" may not immediately free up swap space. I think items in swap need to wind up getting released (basically the VM system recognizes no longer needed) before the swap device is actually taken offline.

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                                            castleapp
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                                            The unofficial guide for running swap over a USB drive in pfSense explains how to configure a USB drive as swap space. While it can help with memory shortages, it risks reduced performance and potential wear on the USB drive due to frequent read/write cycles. Use cautiously and consider alternatives like increasing RAM.

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