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    UNOFFICIAL GUIDE: RUN SWAP OVER USB DRIVE IN PFSENSE

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    • JonathanLeeJ
      JonathanLee @jimp
      last edited by

      @jimp said in UNOFFICIAL GUIDE: RUN SWAP OVER USB DRIVE IN PFSENSE:

      glabel

      Thanks

      "glabel" I will fix this now

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      • JonathanLeeJ
        JonathanLee @jimp
        last edited by JonathanLee

        @jimp

        Ok so the swapUSB lable is added how do I add this to the fstab file now so it can be mounted? /dev shows no label folder. Goal is to only use swapUSB for swap and the onboard ada0s3b for dump.

        I do not know how to add a label to ada0s3b as this is the pfsense drive I do not really want to touch it. Is there a vetted command I can do to add the label that is needed so it can be used?

        the USB uses .eli also so would I need to do swapUSB.eli?

        Geom name: ada0
        modified: false
        state: OK
        fwheads: 16
        fwsectors: 63
        last: 250069679
        first: 1
        entries: 4
        scheme: MBR
        Providers:
        1. Name: ada0s1
           Mediasize: 272629760 (260M)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 0
           Stripeoffset: 512
           Mode: r0w0e0
           efimedia: HD(1,MBR,00000000,0x1,0x82000)
           rawtype: 239
           length: 272629760
           offset: 512
           type: efi
           index: 1
           end: 532480
           start: 1
        2. Name: ada0s2
           Mediasize: 67108864 (64M)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 0
           Stripeoffset: 272630272
           Mode: r0w0e0
           efimedia: HD(2,MBR,00000000,0x82001,0x20000)
           rawtype: 11
           length: 67108864
           offset: 272630272
           type: fat32
           index: 2
           end: 663552
           start: 532481
        3. Name: ada0s3
           Mediasize: 127695937024 (119G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 0
           Stripeoffset: 339739136
           Mode: r1w1e2
           efimedia: HD(3,MBR,00000000,0xa2001,0xedda2af)
           attrib: active
           rawtype: 165
           length: 127695937024
           offset: 339739136
           type: freebsd
           index: 3
           end: 250069679
           start: 663553
        Consumers:
        1. Name: ada0
           Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Mode: r1w1e3
        
        Geom name: ada0s3
        modified: false
        state: OK
        fwheads: 16
        fwsectors: 63
        last: 249406126
        first: 0
        entries: 8
        scheme: BSD
        Providers:
        1. Name: ada0s3a
           Mediasize: 120590425600 (112G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 0
           Stripeoffset: 339747328
           Mode: r1w1e1
           rawtype: 27
           length: 120590425600
           offset: 8192
           type: freebsd-zfs
           index: 1
           end: 235528190
           start: 16
        2. Name: ada0s3b
           Mediasize: 7105150976 (6.6G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 0
           Stripeoffset: 120930172928
           Mode: r0w0e0
           rawtype: 1
           length: 7105150976
           offset: 120590433792
           type: freebsd-swap
           index: 2
           end: 249405438
           start: 235528191
        Consumers:
        1. Name: ada0s3
           Mediasize: 127695937024 (119G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 0
           Stripeoffset: 339739136
           Mode: r1w1e2
        
        Geom name: da0
        modified: false
        state: OK
        fwheads: 255
        fwsectors: 63
        last: 250069639
        first: 40
        entries: 128
        scheme: GPT
        Providers:
        1. Name: da0p1
           Mediasize: 8589934592 (8.0G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 4096
           Stripeoffset: 0
           Mode: r1w1e1
           efimedia: HD(1,GPT,25749237-bf08-11ef-9a7e-90ec770dda25,0x800,0x1000000)
           rawuuid: 25749237-bf08-11ef-9a7e-90ec770dda25
           rawtype: 516e7cb5-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
           label: swapUSB
           length: 8589934592
           offset: 1048576
           type: freebsd-swap
           index: 1
           end: 16779263
           start: 2048
        Consumers:
        1. Name: da0
           Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
           Sectorsize: 512
           Stripesize: 4096
           Stripeoffset: 0
           Mode: r1w1e2
        

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
          last edited by

          The labels are in /dev/gpt/, so replace the /dev/<device> path in fstab with /dev/gpt/swapUSB

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          • JonathanLeeJ
            JonathanLee @jimp
            last edited by

            @jimp said in UNOFFICIAL GUIDE: RUN SWAP OVER USB DRIVE IN PFSENSE:

            /dev/gpt/swapUSB

            sorry to bug you just to confirm

            I ran this
            gpart add -t freebsd-swap -a 1M -s 8GB -l swapUSB da0

            now the label is no longer null

            this has the entry
            /dev/da0p1.eli none swap sw 0 0

            change this to
            /dev/gpt/swapUSB.eli

            for /dev/ada0s3b that I have the link created to /dev/dumpdev

            this as far as I know has no label on it so how would rc.dumpon find this dump can not use .eli so I have dump using the onboard SSD and not the usb. Should I make the label just USBswap that way it avoids it and uses the other entry?

            I do not really want to use destroy to remove the label on /dev/ada0s3b

            however this should have label swap0 for it so rc.dumpon can just locate that first?

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            • JonathanLeeJ
              JonathanLee @jimp
              last edited by

              @jimp I have no dev/gpt/ showing in my filesystem because that is the usb right?

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              • jimpJ
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by

                You shouldn't have to destroy the existing swap on the disk to change the label.

                # glabel label swap0 /dev/ada0s3b
                

                And then when you reboot it should be fine.

                The labels will disappear from /dev/gpt/ when the partitions are mounted/in-use but you should see the right thing happening in swapinfo and checking the dumpdev symlink.

                You shouldn't need to manually do anything other than adding the label and adjusting fstab.

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                • JonathanLeeJ
                  JonathanLee @jimp
                  last edited by

                  @jimp

                  You the Man!!
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                  • JonathanLeeJ
                    JonathanLee @jimp
                    last edited by JonathanLee

                    @jimp

                    I have an issue after reboot

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                    It shows both now with the swapinfo command

                    Shell Output - swapinfo -kh
                    Device              Size     Used    Avail Capacity
                    /dev/gpt/swapUSB.eli     8.0G       0B     8.0G     0%
                    /dev/label/swap0     6.6G       0B     6.6G     0%
                    Total                15G       0B      15G     0%
                    

                    It should only show /dev/gpt/swapUSB.eli for external swap because that is the only entry in the fstab file. However, both are being listed. the swap0 I only want for dump use coredumps because it is onboard ssd with the pfsense software swap would kill the drive faster. This was my issue before I couldn’t do coredumps on swapUSB because dump can’t use .eli so I wanted to separate swap from the coredumps location. For external usb based swap I want to use .eli to protect it from memory leaks so no one walks off with the drive with everything on it. I do not want to overload the onboard stuff because it is an SSD with pfsense.

                    dump on is correct thank you this does not use .eli it works does core dumps to that location. Weird that swapinfo shows both now that the labels are added. When is this checked what else loads the info into swap ?

                    DiagnosticsCommand Prompt
                    Shell Output - dumpon -l
                    label/swap0
                    

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      The boot script should only be using swap entries listed in /etc/fstab/ so make sure swap0 isn't in fstab at all. The rc.dumpon script doesn't need an entry in fstab so long as the label exists.

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                      • JonathanLeeJ
                        JonathanLee @jimp
                        last edited by JonathanLee

                        @jimp
                        I only have one entry in fstab what is weird after a reboot if I do swapinfo it shows both now.. I tested it did a crash and I do get coredumps now on the right drive and that is amazing !! If fstab lists one swap why is it now adding the swap0 to it and not just the swapUSB?

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                        (Swapinfo showing 2 different swaps)

                        93cb4fc9-c7d0-43a2-aa2b-7e6f72b71e04-image.png
                        (What is listed in fstab)

                        7a3e7b74-33de-4cdd-ac90-48ab228347d1-image.png
                        Eli is loading also with the correct partition and encrypting on logs

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                        • JonathanLeeJ
                          JonathanLee
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                            mer @JonathanLee
                            last edited by

                            @JonathanLee FreeBSD has this idea of "device withering".
                            If your swap partition is NOT mounted/in use, you will likely see a "/dev/da0p2" AND a "/dev/gpt/whateverlabelyougaveit".
                            Then the first exclusive reference (think mount) makes everything else disappear.
                            if you do "swapon /dev/da0p2" the /dev/gpt disappears.
                            If you do "swapon /dev/gpt/whatever" the /dev/da0p2 will likely disappear (not always since this is basically raw device)
                            Your swapinfo showing both /dev/gpt/swapUSB.eli and /dev/label/swap0 indicate to me they are on 2 different physical devices.
                            If they are not different physical devices, you have something very odd going on.

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                            • JonathanLeeJ
                              JonathanLee
                              last edited by JonathanLee

                              Yes swapusb is a usb and the other is the SSD on the device itself. Two different devices, also .Eli is in use so dump can not use that device only swap can

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                              • JonathanLeeJ
                                JonathanLee @mer
                                last edited by

                                @mer I wonder if I do a cron job on it and swapon set it to be specific for usb if it would work, I opened a redmine as the current rc.dumpon does not include a if Eli and or if usb for situations like this. It was not closed right away so it could be fixed with a simple if else situation on the code.

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                                • JonathanLeeJ
                                  JonathanLee
                                  last edited by

                                  Fix is to set swapoff on the other drive with a cron job no code is adapted. I am going to update my unofficial guide

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                                    mer @JonathanLee
                                    last edited by

                                    @JonathanLee Keep in mind "swapoff" may not immediately free up swap space. I think items in swap need to wind up getting released (basically the VM system recognizes no longer needed) before the swap device is actually taken offline.

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                                      castleapp
                                      last edited by

                                      The unofficial guide for running swap over a USB drive in pfSense explains how to configure a USB drive as swap space. While it can help with memory shortages, it risks reduced performance and potential wear on the USB drive due to frequent read/write cycles. Use cautiously and consider alternatives like increasing RAM.

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                                      • JonathanLeeJ
                                        JonathanLee @castleapp
                                        last edited by JonathanLee

                                        @castleapp your right. Again with how affordable usb sticks are why not have that hypothetical emergency gas tank. If you are worried about usb flash drive damage from overuse why not utilize a usb HDD for added longevity. Some systems can’t add memory as it is embedded. Merry Christmas

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Hmm @castleapp's reply reads like chatgpt, i.e. spam incoming....

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                                          • JonathanLeeJ
                                            JonathanLee @stephenw10
                                            last edited by

                                            @stephenw10 I agree it is a little bit off.

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