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New install. Poor performance?

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    jrutley @Gblenn
    last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 3:04 PM

    @Gblenn I added one firewall rule to block a site, but I removed that and experienced the same issue

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      jrutley @jrutley
      last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 3:08 PM

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      I'm not entirely sure how to update to 2.7.2, at least from this menu.

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        Gblenn @jrutley
        last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 3:10 PM

        @jrutley Check the next tab, Update Settings...

        What modem do you have from the ISP, and do you see that you have a public IP on pfsense WAN?

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 3:13 PM

          Run: certctl rehash then check again.

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            jrutley @Gblenn
            last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 3:13 PM

            it's a Hitron CODA 4680, and yes the WAN interface shows that I have a public IP

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              jrutley
              last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 3:17 PM

              The certctl rehash did the trick for that. Thank you.

              I just noticed now that the gateway IP is different from the WAN interface
              (unless that .225 is the CMTS, perhaps)

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                jrutley @jrutley
                last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 3:31 PM

                After upgrading to 2.7.2, I still experience the same issue

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 3:57 PM

                  The gateway should be different, that;'s the upstream device at the ISP. The WAN IP is local to pfSense.

                  The first thing I would do is disable the Gateway Monitoring Action (not gateway monitoring!) in Sys > Routing > Gateways, edit the WAN gateway. An external monitoring IP is already set so that's good.

                  Check Status > Interfaces for errors or collisions. That packet loss it pretty catastrophic!

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                    jrutley @stephenw10
                    last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 4:13 PM

                    @stephenw10

                    monitoring action is disabled

                    <snip IP info>
                    MTU
                    1500
                    Media
                    1000baseT <full-duplex>
                    In/out packets
                    1901037/1054338 (2.22 GiB/656.63 MiB)
                    In/out packets (pass)
                    1901037/1054338 (2.22 GiB/656.63 MiB)
                    In/out packets (block)
                    660/1 (292 KiB/40 B)
                    In/out errors
                    0/0
                    Collisions
                    0
                    Interrupts
                    2689149 (874/s)

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                      jrutley @jrutley
                      last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 4:32 PM

                      I should have said "monitoring action is now disabled" earlier.

                      I'm still getting huge packet loss. I checked the modem signal levels, and they look pretty good. I'm tempted to try one of the other two disabled ports.

                      The other thing I did was disable IPv6 to see if that would help. It didn't.

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by stephenw10 Mar 11, 2025, 4:38 PM Mar 11, 2025, 4:38 PM

                        Do you only see loss when running a test or loading the link in some other way?

                        And you don't see any errors on the LAN side NIC either?

                        Trying a different port/NIC is always a good test.

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                          jrutley @stephenw10
                          last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 4:51 PM

                          @stephenw10
                          The lowest I've seen the loss is around 6%, presumably when the network is mostly idle.
                          Most of the time it's around 16-20%

                          Zero errors on the LAN side too

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by stephenw10 Mar 11, 2025, 5:07 PM Mar 11, 2025, 5:06 PM

                            Hmm, well that's not great!

                            Try running a ping test from pfSense dircetly so you're only testing the WAN link.

                            Do you see loss if you just ping the pfSense LAN or WAN IP from an internal client?

                            If you can try putting a switch between the WAN NIC and modem to make sure it's not some low level connection issue.

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                              jrutley @stephenw10
                              last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 5:34 PM

                              @stephenw10
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                              Although I managed to find a spot to put the switch, unfortunately putting a switch in front didn't help :(

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                                jrutley @jrutley
                                last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 5:39 PM

                                no loss when pinging only within the LAN

                                no loss when pinging the WAN IP from local network

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by Mar 11, 2025, 10:24 PM

                                  Hmm, try installing the MTR package. See if you can easily see where that packet loss is happening.

                                  Is there anything fundamentally different with the TPLink router that doesn't show loss. Different WAN link rate for example?

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                                    SteveITS Galactic Empire @jrutley
                                    last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 1:46 AM

                                    @jrutley Not seeing above that you tried different patch cablesโ€ฆ?

                                    Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                    Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                                      jrutley @jrutley
                                      last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 2:22 AM

                                      I can definitely try installing packages to help diagnose the issue.

                                      And Steve, thanks for the suggestion, but multiple cables were used :)
                                      I just hadn't mentioned that

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                                        jrutley @jrutley
                                        last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 2:38 PM

                                        I hate to say this, but it looks like I just had really bad luck.

                                        Last night I switched back to my old router, and the speeds didn't improve. I have since run mtr with and without the new router, and the loss % across the different hops is very similar for both.

                                        Maybe I should restore the TP-Link, put this box behind a second NAT, and try some file transfers across it just to be 100% sure, but I have a feeling that there's nothing wrong with this box, and that my internet connection decided to take a dump at the wrong time.

                                        Sorry for wasting everyone's time on this one ๐Ÿ˜ฐ

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 3:46 PM

                                          Ha, well that's a good outcome compared with some obscure hardware incompatibility. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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