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    Update or Fresh install of 25.07 causes HP ProLiant DL20 Gen9 to Reboot after PFSense Menu

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      malindsay @WB3FFV
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      @WB3FFV I tried to update to 25.07.01, and it once again fails to boot

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Yup, that looks like the same issue. Try booting legacy to confirm.

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          WB3FFV @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 I did update a system to the current version having loaded it as BIOS, and it was fine. Are you asking to take a UEFI loaded system, and just changing it from UEFI to BIOS and see what happens?

          I didn't think I could just jump from one to the other. For sure this seems to affect all HPE systems that support UEFI..

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            malindsay @WB3FFV
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            @WB3FFV I didn't try to adjust the BIOS; perhaps I will try this next. I've never had to change the BIOS in the past.

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              pfSense can usually boot both unless it was installed a while ago (years). It should be pretty obvious if there's nothing bootable in legacy mode.

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                WB3FFV @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 I had to run out of two for a couple days to help someone, so I am happy to try when I return, or maybe one of the other HP owners on here will give it a whirl..

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                  malindsay @WB3FFV
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                  @WB3FFV I tried the new version, I had to reload from scratch, even the backup didn't work

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                    netblues @WB3FFV
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                    @WB3FFV said in Update or Fresh install of 25.07 causes HP ProLiant DL20 Gen9 to Reboot after PFSense Menu:

                    @stephenw10 The million dollar question is, should load modern servers in BIOS or UEFI mode? I assumed now days UEFI was an improvement and the preferred method, but maybe not..

                    There is no million dollar answer.
                    Recently I run into issues due to a bug in freebsd that would only affect NON uefi installs. Using uefi, all worked fine. It was fixed later on.
                    Now it seems you are facing the opposite.

                    Apart from that, uefi is probably the only way to go, longterm.

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                      WB3FFV @malindsay
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                      @malindsay I decided to try and update my own firewall to the 25.07.1 release, it's on an HPE DL360-G9. Well that was a big fail, as with others when I updated it would no longer boot, I even tried to select the prior kernel, but no go.

                      I think tried like @stephenw10 suggested and set it to Legacy BIOS mode, but I guess my initial install was old enough it would not boot, had to be UEFI.

                      Then I took and slicked the machine as I had backed it up, reloaded from the netgate installer, and loaded up 25.07.1 again, and yet again after the load and reboot it would not boot, just resets, like it did in the update before the reload. Now at this point I set the server back to Legacy BIOS mode and rebooted. This time it apparently did have the BIOS tracks from the fresh reload, so it booted PFsense and finished loading and I could restore my backup.

                      So at this time I had to load it fresh, and it's now running under 25.07.1 in BIOS mode, but I am online. Of course getting it back in UEFI mode seems the correct thing to do when a fix is available..

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                        Unoptanio @WB3FFV
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                        @WB3FFV

                        Hi, I haven't updated yet and I'm terrified.
                        In my motherboard's BIOS, I can't find any setting to set UEFI or Legacy.
                        Could it be UEFI only?

                        My versione is PfSense Plus 24.11 with mainboard Asrock Industrial IMB-X1314MicroATX

                        Even using previous ZFS snapshots and boot environments, it wouldn't boot anymore?

                        Are there any issues restoring the license if I reinstall everything from scratch? I still have the lifetime Lab license. If I have to reinstall everything from scratch starting from the installer (so version 2.8.0), is it possible to restore the same Lab license to convert it to Plus?

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                          w0w @Unoptanio
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                          @Unoptanio
                          https://forum.netgate.com/topic/198536/upgrading-from-25.07-to-25.07.1-causes-a-fatal-trap-12-on-boot.

                          Press 3 on boot menu and type

                          staging_slop 268435456
                          boot -v
                          

                          After it boots, add

                          exec="staging_slop 268435456"
                          

                          Into loader.conf.local

                          It might also be the case that this problem doesn’t affect you at all and you won’t have any issues with booting.

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                            Unoptanio @w0w
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                            @w0w

                            Theoretically I should already be in UEFI mode

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                              malindsay @Unoptanio
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                              @Unoptanio, no issues if the update fails and a fresh install is required. Prepare flash media in preparation and back up your system.

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                                Unoptanio @w0w
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                                  Unoptanio @malindsay
                                  last edited by Unoptanio

                                  @malindsay
                                  On the same hardware, does restoring a version 24.11 backup over a new version 2.8.1 also restore and convert the license?

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                                    Unoptanio @w0w
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                                    @w0w said in Update or Fresh install of 25.07 causes HP ProLiant DL20 Gen9 to Reboot after PFSense Menu:

                                    @Unoptanio
                                    https://forum.netgate.com/topic/198536/upgrading-from-25.07-to-25.07.1-causes-a-fatal-trap-12-on-boot.

                                    Press 3 on boot menu and type

                                    staging_slop 268435456
                                    boot -v
                                    

                                    After it boots, add

                                    exec="staging_slop 268435456"
                                    

                                    Into loader.conf.local

                                    It might also be the case that this problem doesn’t affect you at all and you won’t have any issues with booting.

                                    Should this change only be made after the update if the system crashes?
                                    Or should it be made on version 24.11 before updating to 24.07.1?

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                                      malindsay @WB3FFV
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                                      @WB3FFV, thanks for the information. I tried the same, but I didn't set it to legacy BIOS. I reinstalled 24.11 after failed attempts

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                                        Unoptanio @malindsay
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                                        @malindsay

                                        Have you already checked to see if there is a newer BIOS firmware version to update for your hardware?

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                                          w0w @Unoptanio
                                          last edited by w0w

                                          @Unoptanio said in Update or Fresh install of 25.07 causes HP ProLiant DL20 Gen9 to Reboot after PFSense Menu:

                                          Should this change only be made after the update if the system crashes?

                                          I don't think your BIOS is affected. This change can be made at any time, as long as there is enough RAM — and you have enough.
                                          If I were you, I would try updating without any changes.
                                          Of course, you should at least save your config just in case.

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                                            Unoptanio @w0w
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                                            @w0w said in Update or Fresh install of 25.07 causes HP ProLiant DL20 Gen9 to Reboot after PFSense Menu:

                                            @Unoptanio said in Update or Fresh install of 25.07 causes HP ProLiant DL20 Gen9 to Reboot after PFSense Menu:

                                            Should this change only be made after the update if the system crashes?

                                            I don't think your BIOS is affected. This change can be made at any time, as long as there is enough RAM — and you have enough.
                                            If I were you, I would try updating without any changes.
                                            Of course, you should at least save your config just in case.

                                            With the amount of RAM I should be fine.

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