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    To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!

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    • chudakC Offline
      chudak @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

      Can you get a boot log? Or anything showing any errors you might have hit?

      I have to leave soon and can't troubleshoot much longer, will try next tie when I back next to the router.
      That's BTW why I am so touchy about being able to manage this remotely.

      But I doubt it's boot issue.
      Why do you suspect this?

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      • stephenw10S Offline
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        I probably isn't specific to boot but if there are any errors there it would be a clue.

        Any logs showing errors would be something to go on.

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          chudak @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

          I probably isn't specific to boot but if there are any errors there it would be a clue.

          Any logs showing errors would be something to go on.

          I see those:

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          Are they harmful?

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          • stephenw10S Offline
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            No those are all expected and harmless even if you are using those wifi drivers.

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            • chudakC Offline
              chudak @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10

              After I did a fresh 24.03 + 25.07.1 the system was acting better.

              But still 25.07.1 was very odd.
              The best I can describe - it would restart by itself, no obvious entries in the logs. But the frequency changed from every 17 min to "sometimes", I noticed one time during one day.

              Anyhow, I am running now 24.03 for 2 days and it's as it used to be - no issues.

              I am buying a new h/w Glovary mini PC for pfS (my current is 8 years old) and will give it new try

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              • stephenw10S Offline
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                No panic shown or crash report?

                Is it booting UEFI or legacy?

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                • chudakC Offline
                  chudak @stephenw10
                  last edited by chudak

                  @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                  No panic shown or crash report?

                  Is it booting UEFI or legacy?

                  No panic and it’s legacy

                  @stephenw10 any ideas about BIOS?

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                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Like BIOS settings? Not really. It could be an ACPI bug that's exposed by the larger kernel in 25.07 taking up more space. But I'd expect a panic if that was the case.

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                      chudak @chudak
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                      said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                      24.03

                      My pfSense saga…

                      Before 25.07 on 24.03 I had no issues at all, but every newer update started causing spontaneous reboots. I was ready to blame the hardware and even considered buying a new box.

                      Then I noticed something: my smart power switch (ezOutlet5 - Internet Enabled IP & Wi-Fi Remote Power Switch) was set up for automatic operations, pinging both WiFi and wired networks. The green light on it was blinking, which basically meant it thought something was wrong.

                      Turns out it was the switch cutting power and rebooting the box — this is my hypothesis.

                      I disabled the automatic mode and—voila—no more issues.

                      Posting this for group posterity in case it saves someone else the same headache.

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                      • stephenw10S Offline
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Wow, that's painful! Nice to find a cause though. 👍

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                          Mission-Ghost
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                          Today I upgraded my 4200 from 24.11 to 25.07.1 via the web interface.

                          Upgrade went well. I rebooted before starting, the removed all the packages, upgraded, deleted the Nexus package (which I don't think I need since I'm not doing multi-instance management) and installed the new versions of the rest of the packages.

                          I tested multi-wan failover/fail-back, VLANs, etc and all those aspects seem to work normally. I have Starlink and T-Mobile Home Internet as my primary and backup services, respectively. I don't have VPNs.

                          Packages are apcupsd, cron, mailreport, pfBlocker_NG, Status_traffic_totals, System_patches.

                          The only problem I can see is it appears all my history for Status_traffic_totals is gone.

                          I thought all packages left their data intact upon removal/reinstallation unless explicitly directed otherwise. What happened in this case?

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                          • stephenw10S Offline
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            Are you using RAM disks?

                            Also can we assume you mean a 4200 upgraded from 24.11 to 25.07.1?

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                              Mission-Ghost @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 no, I don't use RAM disks.

                              Yes, 4200, not 4300. I've edited that.

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @Mission-Ghost
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                                @Mission-Ghost said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                                from 24.07 to 25.11

                                And I assume that is also a typo?

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                                  Mission-Ghost @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 yes, 24.11 to 25.07.1...jeez I'm losing my marble.

                                  I had months of usage measurements and now they're gone:

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                                  Before the upgrade, I removed the status_traffic_totals package in accordance with the best practices, and after I added it back. I did not see nor choose any other options. Other packages, like cron, email reports and pfBlocker retained all their configurations and data.

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