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    To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!

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    • chudakC Offline
      chudak @stephenw10
      last edited by chudak

      @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

      So a clean install of 25.07.1 is running OK?

      Hmm, hard to imagine would could have caused that. 🤔

      Well there are several issues

      1. The s/w change from 24.03 + caused issues. Support's assumption it was h/w issue turned out to be untrue
        This is a difficult problem to find a root cause for and my route h/w may have played a role as well.

      2. Boot environments restore failed for multiple snapshots. That is really bad. I have no system around anymore for troubleshooting but I hope somebody can reflect and think about what could have caused that. That was scary, the whole reason I did not to want fresh reinstall because my false feeling that boot envs were safe. Alas :(

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        Antibiotic @chudak
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        @chudak Looks like on 25.07.1 AES-GSM broken, have a speed 2oo mb with openVPN client and DCO enabled. Before on 24.11 has a speed almost 1 gb with openVPN. https://forum.netgate.com/topic/198535/massive-10x-performance-regression-in-aes-gcm/7

        pfSense plus 25.07.1 on Topton mini PC
        CPU: Intel N100
        NIC: Intel i-226v 4 pcs
        RAM : 16 GB DDR5
        Disk: 128 GB NVMe
        Brgds, Archi

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        • stephenw10S Offline
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          That is the testing tool only. Whatever you've hitting there it's not a general openssl issue.

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          • chudakC Offline
            chudak @chudak
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            said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

            @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

            What do you see logged when that happens?

            What are you running on?

            QOTOM-Q355G4

            UPDATE:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RR26J-dDzc

            Spent 2 h trying to see what could have caused reboots/resets/up/down unsuccessfully and decided to restore the 24.03 boot env. And ... it did not work, verification during the boot failed!!!! And then another one did not work either etc. Finally I got old 23.x version booted. But I realized that I need to do a fresh install.

            Thx to AI for helping to figure what key to press for BIOS setup :)

            Long story short, I did fresh install + restore old config.xml and so been running for 24 + min (before it was rebooting every 17)

            So hope I am out of the woods....

            My adventure did not end there.
            I found that 25.07.1 was very unstable.

            I could not reboot the system running 25.07.1.

            It'd come up but no LAN or WAN name resolutions and no matter what I tried I could not make it reboot with no issues. I suspect it was Kea DHCP but switching back did not help either...

            So I had to reinstall clean 24.03 and .... I see no issues!

            Not sure what to say, but 25.07.1 was a disaster (at least for me :( )

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            • stephenw10S Offline
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Can you get a boot log? Or anything showing any errors you might have hit?

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              • chudakC Offline
                chudak @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                Can you get a boot log? Or anything showing any errors you might have hit?

                I have to leave soon and can't troubleshoot much longer, will try next tie when I back next to the router.
                That's BTW why I am so touchy about being able to manage this remotely.

                But I doubt it's boot issue.
                Why do you suspect this?

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                • stephenw10S Offline
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  I probably isn't specific to boot but if there are any errors there it would be a clue.

                  Any logs showing errors would be something to go on.

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                  • chudakC Offline
                    chudak @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                    I probably isn't specific to boot but if there are any errors there it would be a clue.

                    Any logs showing errors would be something to go on.

                    I see those:

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                    Are they harmful?

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                    • stephenw10S Offline
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      No those are all expected and harmless even if you are using those wifi drivers.

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                      • chudakC Offline
                        chudak @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10

                        After I did a fresh 24.03 + 25.07.1 the system was acting better.

                        But still 25.07.1 was very odd.
                        The best I can describe - it would restart by itself, no obvious entries in the logs. But the frequency changed from every 17 min to "sometimes", I noticed one time during one day.

                        Anyhow, I am running now 24.03 for 2 days and it's as it used to be - no issues.

                        I am buying a new h/w Glovary mini PC for pfS (my current is 8 years old) and will give it new try

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                        • stephenw10S Offline
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          No panic shown or crash report?

                          Is it booting UEFI or legacy?

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                          • chudakC Offline
                            chudak @stephenw10
                            last edited by chudak

                            @stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

                            No panic shown or crash report?

                            Is it booting UEFI or legacy?

                            No panic and it’s legacy

                            @stephenw10 any ideas about BIOS?

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                            • stephenw10S Offline
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Like BIOS settings? Not really. It could be an ACPI bug that's exposed by the larger kernel in 25.07 taking up more space. But I'd expect a panic if that was the case.

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