To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!

chudak

Finally upgraded 24.03 to 25.07.1

After the initial reboot the network seemed to be messed up, I could not even ping or login to my router.

However after the power off and on everything looks normal.

I did skip the previous major update as my system was rebooting by itself every 5-11 minutes.

So now need to see that that problem is gone.

Cross my fingers :)

List of installed packadges:

UPDATE

The problem is not fixed :(

I see every ~17 minutes system kinda reboots.

The reason I say "kinda" that last shows one reboot I did after upgrade

[25.07.1-RELEASE][admin@pfsense.wawona.lan]/root: last -4 reboot
shutdown time Tue Aug 19 13:23

But up-time in the UI goes up to ~17 min, then I see services go down and then back up again

And that's every ~17 min!!!

Anybody any clues?

stephenw10

What do you see logged when that happens?

What are you running on?

chudak

@stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

What do you see logged when that happens?

What are you running on?

QOTOM-Q355G4

UPDATE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RR26J-dDzc

Spent 2 h trying to see what could have caused reboots/resets/up/down unsuccessfully and decided to restore the 24.03 boot env. And ... it did not work, verification during the boot failed!!!! And then another one did not work either etc. Finally I got old 23.x version booted. But I realized that I need to do a fresh install.

Thx to AI for helping to figure what key to press for BIOS setup :)

Long story short, I did fresh install + restore old config.xml and so been running for 24 + min (before it was rebooting every 17)

So hope I am out of the woods....

stephenw10

So a clean install of 25.07.1 is running OK?

Hmm, hard to imagine would could have caused that.

chudak

@stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

So a clean install of 25.07.1 is running OK?

Hmm, hard to imagine would could have caused that.

Well there are several issues

The s/w change from 24.03 + caused issues. Support's assumption it was h/w issue turned out to be untrue
This is a difficult problem to find a root cause for and my route h/w may have played a role as well.
Boot environments restore failed for multiple snapshots. That is really bad. I have no system around anymore for troubleshooting but I hope somebody can reflect and think about what could have caused that. That was scary, the whole reason I did not to want fresh reinstall because my false feeling that boot envs were safe. Alas :(

Antibiotic

@chudak Looks like on 25.07.1 AES-GSM broken, have a speed 2oo mb with openVPN client and DCO enabled. Before on 24.11 has a speed almost 1 gb with openVPN. https://forum.netgate.com/topic/198535/massive-10x-performance-regression-in-aes-gcm/7

stephenw10

That is the testing tool only. Whatever you've hitting there it's not a general openssl issue.

chudak

said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

@stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

What do you see logged when that happens?

What are you running on?

QOTOM-Q355G4

UPDATE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RR26J-dDzc

Spent 2 h trying to see what could have caused reboots/resets/up/down unsuccessfully and decided to restore the 24.03 boot env. And ... it did not work, verification during the boot failed!!!! And then another one did not work either etc. Finally I got old 23.x version booted. But I realized that I need to do a fresh install.

Thx to AI for helping to figure what key to press for BIOS setup :)

Long story short, I did fresh install + restore old config.xml and so been running for 24 + min (before it was rebooting every 17)

So hope I am out of the woods....

My adventure did not end there.
I found that 25.07.1 was very unstable.

I could not reboot the system running 25.07.1.

It'd come up but no LAN or WAN name resolutions and no matter what I tried I could not make it reboot with no issues. I suspect it was Kea DHCP but switching back did not help either...

So I had to reinstall clean 24.03 and .... I see no issues!

Not sure what to say, but 25.07.1 was a disaster (at least for me :( )

stephenw10

Can you get a boot log? Or anything showing any errors you might have hit?

chudak

@stephenw10 said in To do 25.07 or not?! That is the question!:

Can you get a boot log? Or anything showing any errors you might have hit?

I have to leave soon and can't troubleshoot much longer, will try next tie when I back next to the router.
That's BTW why I am so touchy about being able to manage this remotely.

But I doubt it's boot issue.
Why do you suspect this?

stephenw10

I probably isn't specific to boot but if there are any errors there it would be a clue.

Any logs showing errors would be something to go on.