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      dreamslacker
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      Based on the picture of that LCD unit and the brand…  I reckon that should be a KS0066U lcd.  Do try running it with a parallel port and as a HD44780 LCD.  It should work.  Pins 15 & 16 will be the backlight pins if that's the case.

      Update:  Based on the driver used, that's definitely HD44780 capable.  Just that the mapping was somewhat different when used with the Watchguard backplane and keypads.

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        Unubtanium
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        Thanks alot both of you for helping me with this. i will  give it a go and if it do not work, at least i will have everything ready for a  HD44780 LCD.

        So now i am looking for a good wiring drawing to see if i need one or two potentiometers , some say one and some say two…

        Dreamslacker do you know if the KS0066U is compatible with the HD44780 wiring? some sites say it is.

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          dreamslacker
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          @Unubtanium:

          Thanks alot both of you for helping me with this. i will  give it a go and if it do not work, at least i will have everything ready for a  HD44780 LCD.

          So now i am looking for a good wiring drawing to see if i need one or two potentiometers , some say one and some say two…

          Dreamslacker do you know if the KS0066U is compatible with the HD44780 wiring? some sites say it is.

          Yes, it is.  Seems that the LCD is from SDEC anyway so the connection to the parallel port should be similar to connecting a HD44780 LCD.  The only caveat is that if they do not use a HD44780 controller, then you need to test with Linux/ pfSense and LCD proc with the sdeclcd.so files.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            I agree looking at the hardware it seems it should be HD44780 compatible. However it has a custom part number so it could be a special for Watchguard. Anyway it's an easy enough test to run and I can confirm that it doesn't work, at least not in 8-bit parallel mode with lcdproc 0.55. It's locked up my box now so I'm rebooting to test 4 bit mode.

            Steve

            Edit: I'm fairly sure it won't work since the backlight is controlled via the strobe bit, pin 1.

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              Unubtanium
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              @stephenw10:

              I agree looking at the hardware it seems it should be HD44780 compatible. However it has a custom part number so it could be a special for Watchguard. Anyway it's an easy enough test to run and I can confirm that it doesn't work, at least not in 8-bit parallel mode with lcdproc 0.55. It's locked up my box now so I'm rebooting to test 4 bit mode.

              Steve

              Edit: I'm fairly sure it won't work since the backlight is controlled via the strobe bit, pin 1.

              Thanks for this Steve, i am now just going to find a pc with a printer port so i can test it and as mentioned if not working i at least are ready for my HD44780 LCD

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                Unubtanium
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                Next on my list is to decide on is, wifi card, psu, storage device.

                Here is what i am thinking:

                Wifi:
                Found a Intel WM3945ABG(wish it had N) when did go through my old laptop scrapyard, so thinking of using that with external antennas -> (http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/product_info.php?sku=Draytek_ANT-1005_-5dBi_Antennae(3_pack)&products_id=427)

                PSU:
                Here i go three choices of what i found in my scrapyard
                1 X 12V 3.36 AMP
                1 X 12V 4 AMP Think i will start with this one and check how much it will draw of power and if i can change to the  12V 3.36AMP
                1 X 16V 3 AMP

                Storager
                Here i am not sure at all, i want to run snort and other things that might use some swap space.
                Tried running snort on my current one with some rules and VERY quickly did not start saying not enough swap space.. SO i want to make sure that i have enough space for this.
                So this leads me to thinking of not doing a embedded install and go down a install maybe on a laptop hdd or a small ssd. again NOT sure at all…

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                  wallabybob
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                  @Unubtanium:

                  Wifi:
                  Found a Intel WM3945ABG(wish it had N)

                  Are you wanting a WiFi card that can act as an Access Point? Access Point mode is not supported by FreeBSD on many Intel WiFi cards.

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                    Unubtanium
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                    @wallabybob:

                    @Unubtanium:

                    Wifi:
                    Found a Intel WM3945ABG(wish it had N)

                    Are you wanting a WiFi card that can act as an Access Point? Access Point mode is not supported by FreeBSD on many Intel WiFi cards.

                    You hit the nail on its head, that is just what i want it for, guess it is back to the scrapyard and pick out all the Wifi cards and check the all and HOPE i find one that i can use..

                    Edit: Only found a bcm94312mcg…  Now to look for info about using them as Access point with Freebsd

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      That particular Intel card is the only one that does support AP mode.  :)

                      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AojFUXcbH0ROdHgwYkFHbkRUdV9hVWljVWl5SXkxbFE&hl=en#gid=0

                      Steve

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                        wallabybob
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                        @stephenw10:

                        That particular Intel card is the only one that does support AP mode.  :)

                        Interesting! The FreeBSD 8.1 man page for wpi (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=wpi&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=default&format=html) says wpi supports 3945 but the modes listed don't include hostap. I don't have one to test  :)

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          JimP vs man page, fight!  ;)

                          Steve

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                            dreamslacker
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                            Will be completely my last exam tonight.  I shall pop a pfSense usb livecd in my X60 laptop and check on the 3945 hostap mode.

                            @OP:
                            US$2.95 nets you a HD44780 2 x 16 LCD with free S&H:

                            http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Character-LCD-Module-Display-LCM-1602-16X2-HD44780-Blue-Blacklight-/350499581767?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b672f47

                            Just have to take note that the seller is located in China and the Chinese Lunar New Year is on this coming Sunday so most of them will not be working for about 3 to 4 days (factory workers get up to a month off because it takes some of them up to 12 days to get home from work via public transport).

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                              Unubtanium
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                              @dreamslacker:

                              Will be completely my last exam tonight.  I shall pop a pfSense usb livecd in my X60 laptop and check on the 3945 hostap mode.

                              @OP:
                              US$2.95 nets you a HD44780 2 x 16 LCD with free S&H:

                              http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Character-LCD-Module-Display-LCM-1602-16X2-HD44780-Blue-Blacklight-/350499581767?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b672f47

                              Just have to take note that the seller is located in China and the Chinese Lunar New Year is on this coming Sunday so most of them will not be working for about 3 to 4 days (factory workers get up to a month off because it takes some of them up to 12 days to get home from work via public transport).

                              Damn, 12 days to get home… I am so glad that i am living where i live, takes me only 50 min..

                              IN regards to the hostap mode, i will get it tested when i get this build done.

                              So just to confirm, when they say on a ebay listing that it is KS0066U (Equivalent Hitachi HD44780 Controller), i can use that as it was a HD44780 and use the same connection schematics??  If so i will order this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-16x2-Blue-White-HD44780-equivalent-Display-Module-/110802743481?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item19cc5bb0b9
                              UK Stock and quick delivery  ;D

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                                Unubtanium
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                                @ stephenw10

                                Do you think it would be hard to make a small build with 2 LED's to indicate "armed green/red" and "alarm/ from snort/ipblocker green/read" that i can connect to the com2 header and have a software to control like you armed software for x500??  I can programing for Windows but have NOOOO clue for freebsd.. Maybe its time to learn  8)

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                                  dreamslacker
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                                  @Unubtanium:

                                  Damn, 12 days to get home… I am so glad that i am living where i live, takes me only 50 min..

                                  IN regards to the hostap mode, i will get it tested when i get this build done.

                                  So just to confirm, when they say on a ebay listing that it is KS0066U (Equivalent Hitachi HD44780 Controller), i can use that as it was a HD44780 and use the same connection schematics??   If so i will order this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-16x2-Blue-White-HD44780-equivalent-Display-Module-/110802743481?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item19cc5bb0b9
                                  UK Stock and quick delivery  ;D

                                  Yes.  KS0066U is identical in function to HD44780 (the difference lies in the speed of the controllers in the past).  You can get that if it ships faster, I just picked the cheapest option.  ;D

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    It's not hard to make a circuit to do that. There are many, many examples out there on the net.
                                    Traditionally it far easier to do this sort of thing via the parallel port though.
                                    Check the board specs, you may already have some led outputs available that can be programmed. The power and standby LEDs are usually driven from the superIO chip for example.
                                    There are some clever programs for using the three LEDs from a keyboard, still using the keyboard connector.

                                    If you want to use the com port you will need some sort of interface chip.

                                    Steve

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                                      Unubtanium
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                                      @stephenw10:

                                      It's not hard to make a circuit to do that. There are many, many examples out there on the net.
                                      Traditionally it far easier to do this sort of thing via the parallel port though.
                                      Check the board specs, you may already have some led outputs available that can be programmed. The power and standby LEDs are usually driven from the superIO chip for example.
                                      There are some clever programs for using the three LEDs from a keyboard, still using the keyboard connector.

                                      If you want to use the com port you will need some sort of interface chip.

                                      Steve

                                      Tnx, sound like i should look for some Freebsd apps that can control my power and HD LED.. If i find this i might use
                                      them with some clever AND, NAND and  OR gates for the desired green/red LED control

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        The driver seems to support hostap mode. I await a physical test.  ;)

                                        Steve

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                                          Toneloc427
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                                          You may need to rethink your board selection - Cedar Trail CPUs won't support Linux, at least not immediately: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-008326.htm

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                                            Unubtanium
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                                            @Toneloc427:

                                            You may need to rethink your board selection - Cedar Trail CPUs won't support Linux, at least not immediately: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-008326.htm

                                            HUmmmm…  Its on its way, and If it do not work i will make it into a HTPC and get a new board, but afaik linux is just a kernel and freebsd a OS... so not sure if it can be compared, but PLEASE correct me if I am wayyy leftfield here with my thinking..

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