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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      That particular Intel card is the only one that does support AP mode.  :)

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AojFUXcbH0ROdHgwYkFHbkRUdV9hVWljVWl5SXkxbFE&hl=en#gid=0

      Steve

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        wallabybob
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        @stephenw10:

        That particular Intel card is the only one that does support AP mode.  :)

        Interesting! The FreeBSD 8.1 man page for wpi (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=wpi&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=default&format=html) says wpi supports 3945 but the modes listed don't include hostap. I don't have one to test  :)

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          JimP vs man page, fight!  ;)

          Steve

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            dreamslacker
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            Will be completely my last exam tonight.  I shall pop a pfSense usb livecd in my X60 laptop and check on the 3945 hostap mode.

            @OP:
            US$2.95 nets you a HD44780 2 x 16 LCD with free S&H:

            http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Character-LCD-Module-Display-LCM-1602-16X2-HD44780-Blue-Blacklight-/350499581767?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b672f47

            Just have to take note that the seller is located in China and the Chinese Lunar New Year is on this coming Sunday so most of them will not be working for about 3 to 4 days (factory workers get up to a month off because it takes some of them up to 12 days to get home from work via public transport).

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              Unubtanium
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              @dreamslacker:

              Will be completely my last exam tonight.  I shall pop a pfSense usb livecd in my X60 laptop and check on the 3945 hostap mode.

              @OP:
              US$2.95 nets you a HD44780 2 x 16 LCD with free S&H:

              http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Character-LCD-Module-Display-LCM-1602-16X2-HD44780-Blue-Blacklight-/350499581767?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b672f47

              Just have to take note that the seller is located in China and the Chinese Lunar New Year is on this coming Sunday so most of them will not be working for about 3 to 4 days (factory workers get up to a month off because it takes some of them up to 12 days to get home from work via public transport).

              Damn, 12 days to get home… I am so glad that i am living where i live, takes me only 50 min..

              IN regards to the hostap mode, i will get it tested when i get this build done.

              So just to confirm, when they say on a ebay listing that it is KS0066U (Equivalent Hitachi HD44780 Controller), i can use that as it was a HD44780 and use the same connection schematics??  If so i will order this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-16x2-Blue-White-HD44780-equivalent-Display-Module-/110802743481?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item19cc5bb0b9
              UK Stock and quick delivery  ;D

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                Unubtanium
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                @ stephenw10

                Do you think it would be hard to make a small build with 2 LED's to indicate "armed green/red" and "alarm/ from snort/ipblocker green/read" that i can connect to the com2 header and have a software to control like you armed software for x500??  I can programing for Windows but have NOOOO clue for freebsd.. Maybe its time to learn  8)

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                  dreamslacker
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                  @Unubtanium:

                  Damn, 12 days to get home… I am so glad that i am living where i live, takes me only 50 min..

                  IN regards to the hostap mode, i will get it tested when i get this build done.

                  So just to confirm, when they say on a ebay listing that it is KS0066U (Equivalent Hitachi HD44780 Controller), i can use that as it was a HD44780 and use the same connection schematics??   If so i will order this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-16x2-Blue-White-HD44780-equivalent-Display-Module-/110802743481?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item19cc5bb0b9
                  UK Stock and quick delivery  ;D

                  Yes.  KS0066U is identical in function to HD44780 (the difference lies in the speed of the controllers in the past).  You can get that if it ships faster, I just picked the cheapest option.  ;D

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    It's not hard to make a circuit to do that. There are many, many examples out there on the net.
                    Traditionally it far easier to do this sort of thing via the parallel port though.
                    Check the board specs, you may already have some led outputs available that can be programmed. The power and standby LEDs are usually driven from the superIO chip for example.
                    There are some clever programs for using the three LEDs from a keyboard, still using the keyboard connector.

                    If you want to use the com port you will need some sort of interface chip.

                    Steve

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                      Unubtanium
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                      @stephenw10:

                      It's not hard to make a circuit to do that. There are many, many examples out there on the net.
                      Traditionally it far easier to do this sort of thing via the parallel port though.
                      Check the board specs, you may already have some led outputs available that can be programmed. The power and standby LEDs are usually driven from the superIO chip for example.
                      There are some clever programs for using the three LEDs from a keyboard, still using the keyboard connector.

                      If you want to use the com port you will need some sort of interface chip.

                      Steve

                      Tnx, sound like i should look for some Freebsd apps that can control my power and HD LED.. If i find this i might use
                      them with some clever AND, NAND and  OR gates for the desired green/red LED control

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        The driver seems to support hostap mode. I await a physical test.  ;)

                        Steve

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                          Toneloc427
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                          You may need to rethink your board selection - Cedar Trail CPUs won't support Linux, at least not immediately: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-008326.htm

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                            Unubtanium
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                            @Toneloc427:

                            You may need to rethink your board selection - Cedar Trail CPUs won't support Linux, at least not immediately: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-008326.htm

                            HUmmmm…  Its on its way, and If it do not work i will make it into a HTPC and get a new board, but afaik linux is just a kernel and freebsd a OS... so not sure if it can be compared, but PLEASE correct me if I am wayyy leftfield here with my thinking..

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              I wouldn't worry about that. Cedar trail uses the same chipset as Pine trail which is known to run well with pfSense.
                              In that table a similar level of support is listed for the D525 or D510 boards. In fact BSD is not listed at all but we all know it runs fine.  ;)

                              Steve

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                              • jimpJ
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                @wallabybob:

                                @stephenw10:

                                That particular Intel card is the only one that does support AP mode.  :)

                                Interesting! The FreeBSD 8.1 man page for wpi (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=wpi&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=default&format=html) says wpi supports 3945 but the modes listed don't include hostap. I don't have one to test  :)

                                When I compiled my spreadsheet I looked not just at the man pages, but also the driver source. Often the man pages lag behind the source, so in cases where the man pages said a feature was not supported I checked the driver itself to confirm. But the spreadsheet is just a guide, since I don't have access to all of those cards to test…

                                I do have a wpi card that should be hostap capable but I don't have a spare device with a mini-pci-e slot to try it with.

                                @stephenw10:

                                JimP vs man page, fight!  ;)

                                Steve

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                                  Unubtanium
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                                  Well i will be able to test it as soon as my supplier gets their finger out and get me my MB, expected deliver is around 05/02/12  >:(  >:(

                                  Glad my x500 is still running strong so there is no rush and gives me time to get all my bits and bobs i need for the build..  :P

                                  And give me time do find out what storage devise is best for running snort!

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                                    Unubtanium
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                                    HI All

                                    Again thanks for all help and input so far..

                                    I wonder if someone have some input on this:
                                    I want to make power consumption as low as possible and want to use SSD to help me with this, but i am not sure after reading this thread:
                                    http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,34381.45.html if SSD still is my best choose as i am going to run snort. Or should i just us a old laptop HDD i have???
                                    Is the difference that great?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      There's a lot of mis-information in that thread. Modern SSDs have many many write cycles and a lot of clever ware levelling to make their lifespan as long as possible.
                                      Snort is not a big user of disk space. It requires a lot of RAM and as many CPU cycles as you can throw at it. You can install snort on an embedded install.
                                      SSDs do have significantly lower power consumption.
                                      Just don't buy that 8GB kingston drive that seems to have a design flaw causing data corruption.

                                      Steve

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                                      • jimpJ
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                        I'm still wary of SSDs. We have had a number of reports from customers that their SSDs have died suddenly, no matter what the brand, they seem to fail more often than HDDs of the same vintage. (Not just in firewalls, we had a customer lose a good chunk of an entire VM infrastructure to flaky SSDs, switched back to HDDs and haven't had a problem since)

                                        If you do get an SSD, just make sure to keep up with firmware updates on the drive, and always have a backup plan ready

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                                          Unubtanium
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                                          Thanks for clearing up my SSD question Steven & Jimp. I think i will go down the SSD route to save power then.
                                          And to safe guard myself against SSD failures i will use this Brand spaking new backup software just released: 
                                          http://www.zomers.eu/knowledge/pfSense/Pages/How-to-automate-pfSense-backup.aspx

                                          ;D  ;D

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                                          • jimpJ
                                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                            No need to load some other program to backup… wget works just fine.

                                            http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Remote_Config_Backup

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