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      Unubtanium
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      Next on my list is to decide on is, wifi card, psu, storage device.

      Here is what i am thinking:

      Wifi:
      Found a Intel WM3945ABG(wish it had N) when did go through my old laptop scrapyard, so thinking of using that with external antennas -> (http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/product_info.php?sku=Draytek_ANT-1005_-5dBi_Antennae(3_pack)&products_id=427)

      PSU:
      Here i go three choices of what i found in my scrapyard
      1 X 12V 3.36 AMP
      1 X 12V 4 AMP Think i will start with this one and check how much it will draw of power and if i can change to the  12V 3.36AMP
      1 X 16V 3 AMP

      Storager
      Here i am not sure at all, i want to run snort and other things that might use some swap space.
      Tried running snort on my current one with some rules and VERY quickly did not start saying not enough swap space.. SO i want to make sure that i have enough space for this.
      So this leads me to thinking of not doing a embedded install and go down a install maybe on a laptop hdd or a small ssd. again NOT sure at all…

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        wallabybob
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        @Unubtanium:

        Wifi:
        Found a Intel WM3945ABG(wish it had N)

        Are you wanting a WiFi card that can act as an Access Point? Access Point mode is not supported by FreeBSD on many Intel WiFi cards.

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          Unubtanium
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          @wallabybob:

          @Unubtanium:

          Wifi:
          Found a Intel WM3945ABG(wish it had N)

          Are you wanting a WiFi card that can act as an Access Point? Access Point mode is not supported by FreeBSD on many Intel WiFi cards.

          You hit the nail on its head, that is just what i want it for, guess it is back to the scrapyard and pick out all the Wifi cards and check the all and HOPE i find one that i can use..

          Edit: Only found a bcm94312mcg…  Now to look for info about using them as Access point with Freebsd

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            That particular Intel card is the only one that does support AP mode.  :)

            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AojFUXcbH0ROdHgwYkFHbkRUdV9hVWljVWl5SXkxbFE&hl=en#gid=0

            Steve

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              wallabybob
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              @stephenw10:

              That particular Intel card is the only one that does support AP mode.  :)

              Interesting! The FreeBSD 8.1 man page for wpi (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=wpi&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=default&format=html) says wpi supports 3945 but the modes listed don't include hostap. I don't have one to test  :)

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                JimP vs man page, fight!  ;)

                Steve

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                  dreamslacker
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                  Will be completely my last exam tonight.  I shall pop a pfSense usb livecd in my X60 laptop and check on the 3945 hostap mode.

                  @OP:
                  US$2.95 nets you a HD44780 2 x 16 LCD with free S&H:

                  http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Character-LCD-Module-Display-LCM-1602-16X2-HD44780-Blue-Blacklight-/350499581767?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b672f47

                  Just have to take note that the seller is located in China and the Chinese Lunar New Year is on this coming Sunday so most of them will not be working for about 3 to 4 days (factory workers get up to a month off because it takes some of them up to 12 days to get home from work via public transport).

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                    Unubtanium
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                    @dreamslacker:

                    Will be completely my last exam tonight.  I shall pop a pfSense usb livecd in my X60 laptop and check on the 3945 hostap mode.

                    @OP:
                    US$2.95 nets you a HD44780 2 x 16 LCD with free S&H:

                    http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/New-Character-LCD-Module-Display-LCM-1602-16X2-HD44780-Blue-Blacklight-/350499581767?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b672f47

                    Just have to take note that the seller is located in China and the Chinese Lunar New Year is on this coming Sunday so most of them will not be working for about 3 to 4 days (factory workers get up to a month off because it takes some of them up to 12 days to get home from work via public transport).

                    Damn, 12 days to get home… I am so glad that i am living where i live, takes me only 50 min..

                    IN regards to the hostap mode, i will get it tested when i get this build done.

                    So just to confirm, when they say on a ebay listing that it is KS0066U (Equivalent Hitachi HD44780 Controller), i can use that as it was a HD44780 and use the same connection schematics??  If so i will order this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-16x2-Blue-White-HD44780-equivalent-Display-Module-/110802743481?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item19cc5bb0b9
                    UK Stock and quick delivery  ;D

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                      Unubtanium
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                      @ stephenw10

                      Do you think it would be hard to make a small build with 2 LED's to indicate "armed green/red" and "alarm/ from snort/ipblocker green/read" that i can connect to the com2 header and have a software to control like you armed software for x500??  I can programing for Windows but have NOOOO clue for freebsd.. Maybe its time to learn  8)

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                        dreamslacker
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                        @Unubtanium:

                        Damn, 12 days to get home… I am so glad that i am living where i live, takes me only 50 min..

                        IN regards to the hostap mode, i will get it tested when i get this build done.

                        So just to confirm, when they say on a ebay listing that it is KS0066U (Equivalent Hitachi HD44780 Controller), i can use that as it was a HD44780 and use the same connection schematics??   If so i will order this one: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-16x2-Blue-White-HD44780-equivalent-Display-Module-/110802743481?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item19cc5bb0b9
                        UK Stock and quick delivery  ;D

                        Yes.  KS0066U is identical in function to HD44780 (the difference lies in the speed of the controllers in the past).  You can get that if it ships faster, I just picked the cheapest option.  ;D

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          It's not hard to make a circuit to do that. There are many, many examples out there on the net.
                          Traditionally it far easier to do this sort of thing via the parallel port though.
                          Check the board specs, you may already have some led outputs available that can be programmed. The power and standby LEDs are usually driven from the superIO chip for example.
                          There are some clever programs for using the three LEDs from a keyboard, still using the keyboard connector.

                          If you want to use the com port you will need some sort of interface chip.

                          Steve

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                            Unubtanium
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                            @stephenw10:

                            It's not hard to make a circuit to do that. There are many, many examples out there on the net.
                            Traditionally it far easier to do this sort of thing via the parallel port though.
                            Check the board specs, you may already have some led outputs available that can be programmed. The power and standby LEDs are usually driven from the superIO chip for example.
                            There are some clever programs for using the three LEDs from a keyboard, still using the keyboard connector.

                            If you want to use the com port you will need some sort of interface chip.

                            Steve

                            Tnx, sound like i should look for some Freebsd apps that can control my power and HD LED.. If i find this i might use
                            them with some clever AND, NAND and  OR gates for the desired green/red LED control

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              The driver seems to support hostap mode. I await a physical test.  ;)

                              Steve

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                                Toneloc427
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                                You may need to rethink your board selection - Cedar Trail CPUs won't support Linux, at least not immediately: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-008326.htm

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                                  Unubtanium
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                                  @Toneloc427:

                                  You may need to rethink your board selection - Cedar Trail CPUs won't support Linux, at least not immediately: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-008326.htm

                                  HUmmmm…  Its on its way, and If it do not work i will make it into a HTPC and get a new board, but afaik linux is just a kernel and freebsd a OS... so not sure if it can be compared, but PLEASE correct me if I am wayyy leftfield here with my thinking..

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    I wouldn't worry about that. Cedar trail uses the same chipset as Pine trail which is known to run well with pfSense.
                                    In that table a similar level of support is listed for the D525 or D510 boards. In fact BSD is not listed at all but we all know it runs fine.  ;)

                                    Steve

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                                    • jimpJ
                                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                      @wallabybob:

                                      @stephenw10:

                                      That particular Intel card is the only one that does support AP mode.  :)

                                      Interesting! The FreeBSD 8.1 man page for wpi (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=wpi&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=default&format=html) says wpi supports 3945 but the modes listed don't include hostap. I don't have one to test  :)

                                      When I compiled my spreadsheet I looked not just at the man pages, but also the driver source. Often the man pages lag behind the source, so in cases where the man pages said a feature was not supported I checked the driver itself to confirm. But the spreadsheet is just a guide, since I don't have access to all of those cards to test…

                                      I do have a wpi card that should be hostap capable but I don't have a spare device with a mini-pci-e slot to try it with.

                                      @stephenw10:

                                      JimP vs man page, fight!  ;)

                                      Steve

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                                        Unubtanium
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                                        Well i will be able to test it as soon as my supplier gets their finger out and get me my MB, expected deliver is around 05/02/12  >:(  >:(

                                        Glad my x500 is still running strong so there is no rush and gives me time to get all my bits and bobs i need for the build..  :P

                                        And give me time do find out what storage devise is best for running snort!

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                                          Unubtanium
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                                          HI All

                                          Again thanks for all help and input so far..

                                          I wonder if someone have some input on this:
                                          I want to make power consumption as low as possible and want to use SSD to help me with this, but i am not sure after reading this thread:
                                          http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,34381.45.html if SSD still is my best choose as i am going to run snort. Or should i just us a old laptop HDD i have???
                                          Is the difference that great?

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            There's a lot of mis-information in that thread. Modern SSDs have many many write cycles and a lot of clever ware levelling to make their lifespan as long as possible.
                                            Snort is not a big user of disk space. It requires a lot of RAM and as many CPU cycles as you can throw at it. You can install snort on an embedded install.
                                            SSDs do have significantly lower power consumption.
                                            Just don't buy that 8GB kingston drive that seems to have a design flaw causing data corruption.

                                            Steve

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