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      Sifter
      last edited by

      @stephenw10:

      Can you try setting up the NICs with the microdrive?
      First you need to find out if you can actually get any networkaccess at all. I aimagine it might be VLANs to whatever the chip under the heatsink is but they may require setting up via some out of band service like i2c which would be bad.

      Steve

      So even after assigning vlan's 100, 200, and 300 to the sis0 interface, no interfaces come alive when I plug in a CAT5 cable to each of the 6 jacks.

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        Sifter
        last edited by

        And here is our mystery chip under the heatsink.

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        • stephenw10S Offline
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Ok so as suspected a switch IC. These are normally configured via spi in soho routers but usually (often) that's only neccessary if you need to change the default config.
          You can't just assign VLANs at random. Assign the sis interface directly. Run a packet capture on it. Whilst it's running send some traffic into external switch ports. Now look at the capture to see what vlans traffic arrived on. Of course you'll have to get the capture file off the box to analyse it, or do it the hard way.  ;)

          Steve

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            Sifter
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            @stephenw10:

            You can't just assign VLANs at random. Assign the sis interface directly.

            Steve

            I need 2 interfaces before pfsense will proceed, do I assign one generic vlan as WAN and then assign the sis0 directly to LAN?  How would you do it?

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            • stephenw10S Offline
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              PfSense only requires 1 interface. But yes you could use one real interface and one VLAN interface.
              The other possibility is that the default config of the switch is no vlans at all, just like an unmanaged switch.

              Steve

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                _Adrian_
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                I'm keeping an eye on this thread :)

                If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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                  _Adrian_
                  last edited by

                  I wonder if this has similar hardware :P
                  http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HP-Tippingpoint-Core-Controller-48-Port-Gigabit-Switch-/321258224413?pt=US_Network_Switches&hash=item4acc7b7b1d

                  If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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                  • stephenw10S Offline
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Unlikely. You need some serious power for a 48 port gig switch. You're suggesting it might have an x86 backend? Maybe if it has any firewall or routing features. I doubt it though.

                    Steve

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                      _Adrian_
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                      @stephenw10:

                      You're suggesting it might have an x86 backend?
                      Steve

                      Its a posibility…

                      And that's what I'm after :)

                      If it ain't broken, fix it till it is :P

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                        Sifter
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10:

                        PfSense only requires 1 interface. But yes you could use one real interface and one VLAN interface.
                        The other possibility is that the default config of the switch is no vlans at all, just like an unmanaged switch.

                        Steve

                        Ive now assigned sis0 as LAN and since it asked for WAN first, I just filled in a random vlan name.  However, nomatter what cable or port I plug into, none of the ports light up.  They dont recognize that a cat5 cable is plugged in.

                        If it doesnt see that a cat5 cable is plugged in, how is a packet capture going to work?  Dont we first have to work through getting sis0 "UP"?

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                        • stephenw10S Offline
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Ah, well that makes things a lot more complex. If the default config of the switch is no config at all, everything off, then it needs to be configured before anything will work. Yes you need to see sis0 as UP before anything else.
                          Where are you reading this though, at the console I assume. What do you see from 'ifconfig -a'? If it is vlans only at sis0 then an interface set to use no tags or vlan1 might show as down. What does is show for media and status?

                          Steve

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                            Sifter
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                            Im doing everything from the console at this point.

                            Enter an option: 1
                            
                            Valid interfaces are:
                            
                            sis0  02:63:c0:d6:7b:7e   (up) NatSemi DP8381[56] 10/100BaseTX
                            
                            Do you want to set up VLANs first?
                            
                            If you are not going to use VLANs, or only for optional interfaces, you should
                            say no here and use the webConfigurator to configure VLANs later, if required.
                            
                            Do you want to set up VLANs now [y|n]? y
                            
                            WARNING: all existing VLANs will be cleared if you proceed!
                            
                            Do you want to proceed [y|n]?y
                            
                            VLAN Capable interfaces:
                            
                            sis0    02:63:c0:d6:7b:7e   (up)
                            
                            Enter the parent interface name for the new VLAN (or nothing if finished): sis0
                            Enter the VLAN tag (1-4094): 1
                            
                            VLAN Capable interfaces:
                            
                            sis0    02:63:c0:d6:7b:7e   (up)
                            
                            Enter the parent interface name for the new VLAN (or nothing if finished):
                            
                            VLAN interfaces:
                            
                            sis0_vlan1      VLAN tag 1, parent interface sis0
                            
                            *NOTE*  pfSense requires *AT LEAST* 1 assigned interface(s) to function.
                                    If you do not have *AT LEAST* 1 interfaces you CANNOT continue.
                            
                                    If you do not have at least 1 *REAL* network interface card(s)
                                    or one interface with multiple VLANs then pfSense
                                    *WILL NOT* function correctly.
                            
                            If you do not know the names of your interfaces, you may choose to use
                            auto-detection. In that case, disconnect all interfaces now before
                            hitting 'a' to initiate auto detection.
                            
                            Enter the WAN interface name or 'a' for auto-detection: sis0_vlan1
                            
                            Enter the LAN interface name or 'a' for auto-detection
                            NOTE: this enables full Firewalling/NAT mode.
                            (or nothing if finished): sis0
                            
                            Enter the Optional 1 interface name or 'a' for auto-detection
                            (or nothing if finished):
                            
                            The interfaces will be assigned as follows:
                            
                            WAN  -> sis0_vlan1
                            LAN  -> sis0
                            
                            Do you want to proceed [y|n]?y
                            
                            Writing configuration...done.
                            One moment while we reload the settings... done!
                            *** Welcome to pfSense 2.1-RELEASE-nanobsd (i386) on pfSense ***
                            
                             WAN (wan)       -> sis0_vlan1 ->
                             LAN (lan)       -> sis0       -> v4: 10.0.0.169/24
                            
                             0) Logout (SSH only)                  8) Shell
                             1) Assign Interfaces                  9) pfTop
                             2) Set interface(s) IP address       10) Filter Logs
                             3) Reset webConfigurator password    11) Restart webConfigurator
                             4) Reset to factory defaults         12) pfSense Developer Shell
                             5) Reboot system                     13) Upgrade from console
                             6) Halt system                       14) Enable Secure Shell (sshd)
                             7) Ping host                         15) Restore recent configuration
                            
                            Enter an option:
                            
                            
                            [2.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root(1): ifconfig -a
                            sis0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                                    options=83808 <vlan_mtu,wol_ucast,wol_mcast,wol_magic,linkstate>ether 02:63:c0:d6:7b:7e
                                    inet6 fe80::7422:d7c0:c46:842%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                                    inet 10.0.0.169 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
                                    nd6 options=1 <performnud>media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
                                    status: no carrier
                            enc0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1536
                            pfsync0: flags=0<> metric 0 mtu 1460
                                    syncpeer: 224.0.0.240 maxupd: 128 syncok: 1
                            pflog0: flags=100 <promisc>metric 0 mtu 33192
                            lo0: flags=8049 <up,loopback,running,multicast>metric 0 mtu 16384
                                    options=3 <rxcsum,txcsum>inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
                                    inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
                                    inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
                                    nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>sis0_vlan100: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                                    ether 02:63:c0:d6:7b:7e
                                    inet6 fe80::7422:d7c0:c46:842%sis0_vlan100 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
                                    nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
                                    status: no carrier
                                    vlan: 100 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: sis0
                            sis0_vlan200: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                                    ether 02:63:c0:d6:7b:7e
                                    inet6 fe80::7422:d7c0:c46:842%sis0_vlan200 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
                                    nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
                                    status: no carrier
                                    vlan: 200 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: sis0
                            sis0_vlan300: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                                    ether 02:63:c0:d6:7b:7e
                                    inet6 fe80::7422:d7c0:c46:842%sis0_vlan300 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x8
                                    nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
                                    status: no carrier
                                    vlan: 300 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: sis0
                            sis0_vlan1: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                                    ether 02:63:c0:d6:7b:7e
                                    inet6 fe80::7422:d7c0:c46:842%sis0_vlan1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9
                                    nd6 options=3 <performnud,accept_rtadv>media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
                                    status: no carrier
                                    vlan: 1 vlanpcp: 0 parent interface: sis0
                            [2.1-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root(2):</performnud,accept_rtadv></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast></performnud,accept_rtadv></rxcsum,txcsum></up,loopback,running,multicast></promisc></performnud></vlan_mtu,wol_ucast,wol_mcast,wol_magic,linkstate></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
                            
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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              @Sifter:

                              
                              sis0: flags=8843 <up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast>metric 0 mtu 1500
                                      options=83808 <vlan_mtu,wol_ucast,wol_mcast,wol_magic,linkstate>ether 02:63:c0:d6:7b:7e
                                      inet6 fe80::7422:d7c0:c46:842%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
                                      inet 10.0.0.169 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
                                      nd6 options=1 <performnud>media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
                                      status: no carrier</performnud></vlan_mtu,wol_ucast,wol_mcast,wol_magic,linkstate></up,broadcast,running,simplex,multicast> 
                              

                              Hmm, well that doesn't look good. I would expect that sis0 is always connected to the switch. The switch may have autonegotiation disabled on that port. You could try setting sis0 to 100Mbps FD and see if shows carrier. Though even if auto was disabled it should still fall back to 10Mb HD if a connection is detected.  :-\

                              You might be able to port (if someone else hasn't done it already some roboswitch code from, for example, OpenWRT.

                              Steve

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