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    [SOLVED] pfSense 2.2(.1) crashing regularly

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      drzoidberg33
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      @heper:

      whats the "LG electronics" device on usb ?

      ugen3.2: <lg electronics="" inc.=""> at usbus3
ugen3.2: <lg electronics="" inc.=""> at usbus3 (disconnected)
 
 
Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode</lg></lg>

      seen it twice right before the panic and once where it doesnt show up … could be nothing, but wouldn't hurt to unplug whatever it is.

      I sometimes plug my phone in to the box to charge, it's hardly ever plugged in though and never crashed while plugged in or directly after unplugging.

      It's probably just easier to roll back to 2.1.5 though, I'm just really lazy :p

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        drzoidberg33
        last edited by

        Still crashing all the time  :(

        Such a mission to downgrade and set everything up again.

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          Lo Call
          last edited by

          Hi drzoidberg33

          "never had issues before…" I use to ear a lot theses words.
          The mother fact is that : ...before the problem... there was no problem...
          That's THE definition of the breakdown.  :-X

          -- Before the BREAKDOWN, it was working ... --

          AFAIK, based on years of hardware experience, the hardware malfunctions strongly tend to reveal at the UPGRADE time, or other "changes" time.
          (there is a physical reason to that... But that's of topic)
          But what is ON Topic and I think usefull, is to remember that the hardware go "bad" far more quickly that the code...
          It is it nature !

          Now, before to dowgrade or reinstall or hurt in the lazyness your sweetly refer in reply  « on: March 22, 2015, 01:35:05 am » , may I suggest to you to CHECK the hardware ?
          by EX.
          RAM with MEMTEST86+
          HDD with HDSCAN or SPINRITE or any else of your choice

          The crash happened always with the IP @ the SAME RAM address .... and, you had DISK crashes too...
          (IP = Instruction Pointer, it is a part of the microprocessor that keep the MEMORY ADDRESS where to run the current operation/code)

          So, before to "invest" time in code analysis, it is IMPORTANT to be sure that the code is not unwillingly "mangled" by the hardware.

          Need more help, let me know.

          Cheers.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Any reason you're running a snapshot and not 2.2.1-release? Admittedly your snapshot is from the day before release and they were pretty much stable at that point anyway.  ;)
            The crashes appear to be in pfctl, do you have some bizarre rule-set? Assuming the upgrade is the issue you may have some rules that can't load in 2.2.X though that should show an error every time you load them so it seem to be something that only occasionally applies.

            Steve

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              drzoidberg33
              last edited by

              @Lo:

              Hi drzoidberg33

              "never had issues before…" I use to ear a lot theses words.
              The mother fact is that : ...before the problem... there was no problem...
              That's THE definition of the breakdown.  :-X

              -- Before the BREAKDOWN, it was working ... --

              AFAIK, based on years of hardware experience, the hardware malfunctions strongly tend to reveal at the UPGRADE time, or other "changes" time.
              (there is a physical reason to that... But that's of topic)
              But what is ON Topic and I think usefull, is to remember that the hardware go "bad" far more quickly that the code...
              It is it nature !

              Now, before to dowgrade or reinstall or hurt in the lazyness your sweetly refer in reply  « on: March 22, 2015, 01:35:05 am » , may I suggest to you to CHECK the hardware ?
              by EX.
              RAM with MEMTEST86+
              HDD with HDSCAN or SPINRITE or any else of your choice

              The crash happened always with the IP @ the SAME RAM address .... and, you had DISK crashes too...
              (IP = Instruction Pointer, it is a part of the microprocessor that keep the MEMORY ADDRESS where to run the current operation/code)

              So, before to "invest" time in code analysis, it is IMPORTANT to be sure that the code is not unwillingly "mangled" by the hardware.

              Need more help, let me know.

              Cheers.

              Thanks for taking the time to respond.

              I'll run a memtest and replace the drive while I'm at it. I agree that it could be a hardware issue, so I'll check that.

              I cannot make sense of these crash logs and was hoping somebody could maybe point out a specific area to check without me having to waste a bunch of time testing everything.

              Cheers.

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                drzoidberg33
                last edited by

                @stephenw10:

                Any reason you're running a snapshot and not 2.2.1-release? Admittedly your snapshot is from the day before release and they were pretty much stable at that point anyway.  ;)
                The crashes appear to be in pfctl, do you have some bizarre rule-set? Assuming the upgrade is the issue you may have some rules that can't load in 2.2.X though that should show an error every time you load them so it seem to be something that only occasionally applies.

                Steve

                Yes, I had updated to the latest snapshot (at the time) hoping it would help (coming from 2.2). I updated to the release version the other night but the issue remains still.

                I am using pfblocker, although I tested also with only the bare essentials (vanilla install) to see if it was something like pfblocker and it would still crash, so I just enabled it again.

                I'm going to try and test my hardware as suggested above, if all else fails I'll revert to 2.1.5.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  It could be an issue with some device in your hardware that wasn't supported at all under FreeBSD 8.X but now is to some extent in 10.1. There have  been a few with acpi devices due to that.
                  You might also try a 2.2.2 snapshot.

                  Steve

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                    drzoidberg33
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10:

                    It could be an issue with some device in your hardware that wasn't supported at all under FreeBSD 8.X but now is to some extent in 10.1. There have  been a few with acpi devices due to that.
                    You might also try a 2.2.2 snapshot.

                    Steve

                    Thanks! I'll try all the above suggestions, I'm really getting annoyed with these random crashes now.

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                      drzoidberg33
                      last edited by

                      Well I've ruled out a memory issue, ran full memtest last night and all okay.

                      Going to install 2.2.2 to a new drive and see how that goes, then will install 2.1.5 back to the old drive.

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                        drzoidberg33
                        last edited by

                        I've given up on 2.2.x.

                        I tried everything. Memory checks out, replaced the disk, replaced the SATA cable, changed every conceivable BIOS setting.

                        Things just got worse, after installing 2.2.2 once the system crashed it wouldn't be able to boot again. It would start booting but then it would take like 2 seconds for each character to appear on the screen (very weird).

                        Reinstalled 2.1.5 tried to replicate the same by doing a dirty power off and it booted just fine.

                        Happy staying with 2.1.5 for now, there is obviously something I have that 2.2.2 doesn't like.

                        Here is a video I took of the weird boot issue:

                        https://youtu.be/MPO5nAkVm7o

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          The super slow boot is a known issue. https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/UpgradeGuide#pfSense_2.2.2_Upgrade_Notes
                          Disable your serial port if you're not using it.

                          Steve

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                            drzoidberg33
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                            @stephenw10:

                            The super slow boot is a known issue. https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/UpgradeGuide#pfSense_2.2.2_Upgrade_Notes
                            Disable your serial port if you're not using it.

                            Steve

                            Thanks! The original crashing problem still exists in 2.2.2 for me though, so for now staying with 2.1.5.

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                              drzoidberg33
                              last edited by

                              Haven't had one crash since rolling back to 2.1.5. So it is most definitely something with my setup that 2.2.x doesn't like.

                              I'm going to mark this topic solved.

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                                cmb
                                last edited by

                                What's your configuration like? If you wouldn't mind sharing it in its entirety, that would likely be helpful. I'd like to track down what it is that's causing the crash.

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                                  drzoidberg33
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                                  @cmb:

                                  What's your configuration like? If you wouldn't mind sharing it in its entirety, that would likely be helpful. I'd like to track down what it is that's causing the crash.

                                  I'm not at home now, so can't remember the exact model of the motherboard (it's a Zotac ITX board) but here is what is being reported by the system for the rest of the hardware (the nfe0 interface is an onboard 10/100 NIC and re0 is a PCI-e x1 Realtek card):

                                  CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU  330  @ 1.60GHz (1600.01-MHz K8-class CPU)
                                    Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x106c2  Family = 6  Model = 1c  Stepping = 2
                                    Features=0xbfe9fbff <fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,htt,tm,pbe>Features2=0x40e31d <sse3,dtes64,mon,ds_cpl,tm2,ssse3,cx16,xtpr,pdcm,movbe>AMD Features=0x20100800 <syscall,nx,lm>AMD Features2=0x1 <lahf>TSC: P-state invariant
                                  real memory  = 4294967296 (4096 MB)
                                  avail memory = 3572338688 (3406 MB)
                                  ACPI APIC Table: <121009 APIC1510>
                                  FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
                                  FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 HTT threads
                                  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
                                  cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  1
                                  cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
                                  cpu3 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  3
                                  ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4
                                  ioapic0 <version 1.1="">irqs 0-23 on motherboard
                                  wlan: mac acl policy registered
                                  ipw_bss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
                                  ipw_bss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
                                  module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_bss_fw, 0xffffffff804abaf0, 0) error 1
                                  ipw_ibss: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
                                  ipw_ibss: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
                                  module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_ibss_fw, 0xffffffff804abb90, 0) error 1
                                  ipw_monitor: You need to read the LICENSE file in /usr/share/doc/legal/intel_ipw/.
                                  ipw_monitor: If you agree with the license, set legal.intel_ipw.license_ack=1 in /boot/loader.conf.
                                  module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (ipw_monitor_fw, 0xffffffff804abc30, 0) error 1
                                  kbd1 at kbdmux0
                                  cryptosoft0: <software crypto="">on motherboard
                                  padlock0: No ACE support.
                                  acpi0: <121009 RSDT1510> on motherboard
                                  acpi0: [ITHREAD]
                                  acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
                                  acpi0: reservation of fefe1000, 1000 (3) failed
                                  acpi0: reservation of fee01000, ff000 (3) failed
                                  acpi0: reservation of fec00000, 1000 (3) failed
                                  acpi0: reservation of fee00000, 1000 (3) failed
                                  acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
                                  acpi0: reservation of 100000, dff00000 (3) failed
                                  Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
                                  acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0
                                  cpu0: <acpi cpu="">on acpi0
                                  cpu1: <acpi cpu="">on acpi0
                                  cpu2: <acpi cpu="">on acpi0
                                  cpu3: <acpi cpu="">on acpi0
                                  pcib0: <acpi host-pci="" bridge="">port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
                                  pci0: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib0
                                  pci0: <memory, ram="">at device 0.1 (no driver attached)
                                  isab0: <pci-isa bridge="">port 0x4f00-0x4fff at device 3.0 on pci0
                                  isa0: <isa bus="">on isab0
                                  pci0: <memory, ram="">at device 3.1 (no driver attached)
                                  pci0: <serial bus,="" smbus="">at device 3.2 (no driver attached)
                                  pci0: <memory, ram="">at device 3.3 (no driver attached)
                                  pci0: <processor>at device 3.5 (no driver attached)
                                  ohci0: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" usb="" controller="">mem 0xfae7f000-0xfae7ffff irq 22 at device 4.0 on pci0
                                  ohci0: [ITHREAD]
                                  usbus0: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" usb="" controller="">on ohci0
                                  ehci0: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" usb="" 2.0="" controller="">mem 0xfae7ec00-0xfae7ecff irq 23 at device 4.1 on pci0
                                  ehci0: [ITHREAD]
                                  usbus1: EHCI version 1.0
                                  usbus1: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" usb="" 2.0="" controller="">on ehci0
                                  ohci1: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" usb="" controller="">mem 0xfae7d000-0xfae7dfff irq 20 at device 6.0 on pci0
                                  ohci1: [ITHREAD]
                                  usbus2: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" usb="" controller="">on ohci1
                                  ehci1: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" usb="" 2.0="" controller="">mem 0xfae7e800-0xfae7e8ff irq 21 at device 6.1 on pci0
                                  ehci1: [ITHREAD]
                                  usbus3: EHCI version 1.0
                                  usbus3: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" usb="" 2.0="" controller="">on ehci1
                                  pcib1: <acpi pci-pci="" bridge="">at device 9.0 on pci0
                                  pci1: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib1
                                  nfe0: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" networking="" adapter="">port 0xc080-0xc087 mem 0xfae7c000-0xfae7cfff,0xfae7e400-0xfae7e4ff,0xfae7e000-0xfae7e00f irq 22 at device 10.0 on pci0</nvidia>
                                  miibus0: <mii bus="">on nfe0
                                  rgephy0: <rtl8169s 8110s="" 8211b="" media="" interface="">PHY 3 on miibus0
                                  rgephy0:  none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow
                                  nfe0: [FILTER]
                                  atapci0: <nvidia nforce="" mcp79="" sata300="" controller="">port 0xc000-0xc007,0xbc00-0xbc03,0xb880-0xb887,0xb800-0xb803,0xb480-0xb48f mem 0xfae7a000-0xfae7bfff irq 23 at device 11.0 on pci0
                                  atapci0: [ITHREAD]
                                  atapci0: AHCI v1.20 controller with 6 3Gbps ports, PM supported
                                  ata2: <ata channel="">at channel 0 on atapci0
                                  ata2: [ITHREAD]
                                  ata3: <ata channel="">at channel 1 on atapci0
                                  ata3: [ITHREAD]
                                  ata4: <ata channel="">at channel 2 on atapci0
                                  ata4: [ITHREAD]
                                  ata5: <ata channel="">at channel 3 on atapci0
                                  ata5: [ITHREAD]
                                  ata6: <ata channel="">at channel 4 on atapci0
                                  ata6: [ITHREAD]
                                  ata7: <ata channel="">at channel 5 on atapci0
                                  ata7: [ITHREAD]
                                  pcib2: <acpi pci-pci="" bridge="">irq 20 at device 12.0 on pci0
                                  pci2: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib2
                                  pcib3: <acpi pci-pci="" bridge="">at device 16.0 on pci0
                                  pci3: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib3
                                  vgapci0: <vga-compatible display="">port 0xdc00-0xdc7f mem 0xfb000000-0xfbffffff,0xe0000000-0xefffffff,0xf6000000-0xf7ffffff irq 21 at device 0.0 on pci3
                                  pcib4: <acpi pci-pci="" bridge="">irq 21 at device 21.0 on pci0
                                  pci4: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib4
                                  pcib5: <acpi pci-pci="" bridge="">irq 22 at device 22.0 on pci0
                                  pci5: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib5
                                  re0: <realtek 8111="" 8168="" b="" c="" cp="" d="" dp="" e="" f="" pcie="" gigabit="" ethernet="">port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebff000-0xfebfffff,0xf9ffc000-0xf9ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci5</realtek> re0: Using 1 MSI-X message
                                  re0: Chip rev. 0x2c000000
                                  re0: MAC rev. 0x00000000
                                  miibus1: <mii bus="">on re0
                                  rgephy1: <rtl8169s 8110s="" 8211b="" media="" interface="">PHY 1 on miibus1
                                  rgephy1:  none, 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow
                                  re0: [ITHREAD]
                                  pcib6: <acpi pci-pci="" bridge="">irq 23 at device 23.0 on pci0
                                  pci6: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib6
                                  pcib7: <acpi pci-pci="" bridge="">irq 20 at device 24.0 on pci0
                                  pci7: <acpi pci="" bus="">on pcib7
                                  acpi_button0: <power button="">on acpi0
                                  uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
                                  uart0: [FILTER]
                                  acpi_hpet0: <high precision="" event="" timer="">iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed00fff irq 2,8 on acpi0
                                  Timecounter "HPET" frequency 25000000 Hz quality 900
                                  atrtc0: <at realtime="" clock="">port 0x70-0x71 on acpi0
                                  sc0: <system console="">at flags 0x100 on isa0
                                  sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
                                  vga0: <generic isa="" vga="">at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
                                  atkbdc0: <keyboard controller="" (i8042)="">at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
                                  atkbd0: <at keyboard="">irq 1 on atkbdc0
                                  kbd0 at atkbd0
                                  atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
                                  atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
                                  ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range
                                  p4tcc0: <cpu frequency="" thermal="" control="">on cpu0
                                  p4tcc1: <cpu frequency="" thermal="" control="">on cpu1
                                  p4tcc2: <cpu frequency="" thermal="" control="">on cpu2
                                  p4tcc3: <cpu frequency="" thermal="" control="">on cpu3
                                  Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
                                  IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
                                  usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
                                  usbus1: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0
                                  usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0
                                  usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0
                                  ad4: 152587MB <samsung he160hj="" jf800-24="">at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 3Gb/s</samsung>
                                  ugen0.1: <nvidia>at usbus0
                                  uhub0: <nvidia 1="" 9="" ohci="" root="" hub,="" class="" 0,="" rev="" 1.00="" 1.00,="" addr="">on usbus0
                                  ugen1.1: <nvidia>at usbus1
                                  uhub1: <nvidia 1="" 9="" ehci="" root="" hub,="" class="" 0,="" rev="" 2.00="" 1.00,="" addr="">on usbus1
                                  ugen2.1: <nvidia>at usbus2
                                  uhub2: <nvidia 1="" 9="" ohci="" root="" hub,="" class="" 0,="" rev="" 1.00="" 1.00,="" addr="">on usbus2
                                  ugen3.1: <nvidia>at usbus3
                                  uhub3: <nvidia 1="" 9="" ehci="" root="" hub,="" class="" 0,="" rev="" 2.00="" 1.00,="" addr="">on usbus3
                                  uhub0: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
                                  uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
                                  uhub1: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
                                  uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
                                  SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
                                  SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
                                  SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
                                  Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
                                  ZFS NOTICE: Prefetch is disabled by default if less than 4GB of RAM is present;
                                              to enable, add "vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=0" to /boot/loader.conf.
                                  ZFS WARNING: Recommended minimum kmem_size is 512MB; expect unstable behavior.
                                              Consider tuning vm.kmem_size and vm.kmem_size_max
                                              in /boot/loader.conf.
                                  ZFS filesystem version 5
                                  ZFS storage pool version 28
                                  coretemp0: <cpu on-die="" thermal="" sensors="">on cpu0
                                  coretemp1: <cpu on-die="" thermal="" sensors="">on cpu1
                                  coretemp2: <cpu on-die="" thermal="" sensors="">on cpu2
                                  coretemp3: <cpu on-die="" thermal="" sensors="">on cpu3</cpu></cpu></cpu></cpu></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></cpu></cpu></cpu></cpu></at></keyboard></generic></system></at></high></power></acpi></acpi></acpi></acpi></rtl8169s></mii></acpi></acpi></acpi></acpi></vga-compatible></acpi></acpi></acpi></acpi></ata></ata></ata></ata></ata></ata></nvidia></rtl8169s></mii></acpi></acpi></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></nvidia></processor></memory,></serial></memory,></isa></pci-isa></memory,></acpi></acpi></acpi></acpi></acpi></acpi></software></version></lahf></syscall,nx,lm></sse3,dtes64,mon,ds_cpl,tm2,ssse3,cx16,xtpr,pdcm,movbe></fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,pge,mca,cmov,pat,clflush,dts,acpi,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ss,htt,tm,pbe>

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                                    cmb
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks, that might be helpful, though from the crash report I'm thinking it's not hardware-specific. I was more curious what software features you're using.

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                                      drzoidberg33
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                                      I just want to update this thread.

                                      After rolling back to 2.1.5 I noticed that it was still crashing every now and then (although not anywhere near as much as with 2.2.2). I've come to the conclusion that it must be something with my system.

                                      I'm replacing the motherboard/cpu/memory this week with new hardware and will try install 2.2.2 again and see if that helps.

                                      Thanks for all the feedback so far.

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                                        divsys
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks for keeping everyone updated with your progress.

                                        I didn't notice anywhere if you've tried replacing the power supply in this system?
                                        If you're trying to eliminate possible causes of the crashes due to hardware, it's worth a try to eliminate the PS as well.

                                        Just my $.02

                                        -jfp

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                                          drzoidberg33
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                                          @divsys:

                                          Thanks for keeping everyone updated with your progress.

                                          I didn't notice anywhere if you've tried replacing the power supply in this system?
                                          If you're trying to eliminate possible causes of the crashes due to hardware, it's worth a try to eliminate the PS as well.

                                          Just my $.02

                                          Thanks for the tip. I'll see what happens when my hardware gets here. I just have a strong suspicion it is the motherboard as my BIOS settings are getting reset out of the blue sometimes. Let's see what happens.

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                                            divsys
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                                            How old is that MB?

                                            Any chance the CMOS battery is dead and mangling the BIOS at random?

                                            -jfp

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