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      warheat1990
      last edited by

      I email their support and technical few times, gave them a link to this thread and never got a response, you get what you pay for I guess.

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        Finger79
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        @CanYaHearMeNow4:

        If anyone has some free time to submit similar security feedback, it might help the cause: http://www.tp-link.com/us/security

        Ironically, that page isn't available over HTTPS, so the entire form contents are in the clear.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          It is there via https - just BAD

          The certificate is only valid for the following names: *.akamaized.net, *.akamaihd-staging.net, *.akamaized-staging.net, *.akamaihd.net, a248.e.akamai.net

          Agree yet another example of not really getting it ;)

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            VAMike
            last edited by

            @johnpoz:

            It is there via https - just BAD

            The certificate is only valid for the following names: *.akamaized.net, *.akamaihd-staging.net, *.akamaized-staging.net, *.akamaihd.net, a248.e.akamai.net

            Agree yet another example of not really getting it ;)

            Those are always there when a site is hosted on akamai but not using https.

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              warheat1990
              last edited by

              TP-Link released beta firmware on July 2017 for both SG105E and SG108E, anyone care to try?

              Link:
              http://static.tp-link.com/TL-SG105E(UN)_V3_170717_Beta.rar
              http://static.tp-link.com/TL-SG108E(UN)_V3_170717_Beta.rar

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                did they release for v2?

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Mmm, did they release for anything else? Is there an announcement anywhere?

                  Steve

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Not that I could find.. Typical it seems for this company..

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                    • thuetyT
                      thuety
                      last edited by

                      So my sg108e is directly connected to my cable modem with untagged VLAN x and PVID x.
                      How worried should I be about the VLAN 1 membership?
                      Wouldn't an attacker need to be in my cable/wan subnet?

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        I would not use that switch on WAN. It's a sketchy enough proposition with a good switch with a proper management VLAN.

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          belt9
                          last edited by

                          Security wise for a switch on WAN how about a RADIUS server?

                          Doesn't pfSense even have a package for that?

                          Never used it before so might not work at all?

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            What?

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                            • lexxaiL
                              lexxai
                              last edited by

                              Will add about security of this devices…
                              TL-SG1016DE security of changes value without any authentication.
                              It from testing of my device… VLAN1 is problem.
                              Now SG1016DE used only internally.

                              –
                              We have what we have. Everything that happens - for the better.

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                                tpham3783
                                last edited by

                                Hi guys,

                                Since TP-Link refused to give me the source code so I decided to take on this issue myself.

                                Here is how you can hack ( un-member ports on vlan1).  I have already tested on the SG108PE (hw version 3) switch and it worked.

                                1.  Setup your vlan configuration as usual
                                2.  Save the config (config.cfg)
                                3.  Open it up with a Hex-editor.  Right after the text "Default_VLAN" you will see FF (that's basically means all 8 ports are member of untagged vlan1).  Change it to 00 if you want to un-member all ports from vlan1.  As shown in the attached picture, I changed it to 80 because I still wanted port 8 to be a member of vlan1 so that I can manage the switch from web-gui.
                                4.  Save the file, restore the modified config in system:system_tools:restore_config
                                5.  Wait for the switch to reboot, goto vlan config, notice that ports belonging to vlan1 are changed.

                                Cheers!  I still hope for tp-link to fix this VLAN1 bug one day!  This is just a work-around.

                                tp_vlan1_disable_all_ports.png
                                tp_vlan1_disable_all_ports.png_thumb
                                tp_link_unmember_vlan1_hack.png
                                tp_link_unmember_vlan1_hack.png_thumb

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                                • JKnottJ
                                  JKnott
                                  last edited by

                                  I'll have to give that a try with my 5 port switch.  I don't suppose you'd have a fix for their TL-WA901N access point.  ;)
                                  It has the same problem where data from the native LAN leaks into the VLAN & 2nd SSID.

                                  I think those TP Link engineers need a lesson or 2 on VLANs.

                                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                  • JKnottJ
                                    JKnott
                                    last edited by

                                    That fix doesn't seem to apply to the TL-SG105E switch.

                                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                      tpham3783
                                      last edited by

                                      @JKnott:

                                      That fix doesn't seem to apply to the TL-SG105E switch.

                                      Were you able to see the port assignment changed in step# 5?

                                      by the way, i saw vlan isolation w/ the work-around solution.  The only thing I saw strange was that the switch's IP address is a member of all vlans.  If I were to change my PC's IP address to the same subnet of the switch, I could communicate to it on non-native vlan, which is kinda weird.

                                      However, the switch is no longer behaving like a dumb switch because ports are removed from vlan1.

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        I will give this a try on 105E v2 tonight when I get home..  Great info.. Thanks.

                                        An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                        If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                                        Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                                        • lexxaiL
                                          lexxai
                                          last edited by

                                          Some analyze information about apply this method to TL-SG1016DE (HW:2)

                                          vlan:777,port: 5tag, name: TESTVVV
                                          777 = 0x0309 (0x09 0x03)
                                          5 =  0x10  (0001 0000) 5 bit.

                                          vlan:777,port: 5untag, name: TESTVVV
                                          777 = 0x0309 (0x09 0x03)
                                          5 =  0x10  (0001 0000) 5 bit.

                                          source: http://lexxai.pp.ua

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                                          • thuetyT
                                            thuety
                                            last edited by

                                            @tpham3783:

                                            Here is how you can hack ( un-member ports on vlan1).  I have already tested on the SG108PE (hw version 3) switch and it worked.

                                            Worked on my TL-SG108E 2.0, thanks!
                                            Why didn't I think of this…  ::)

                                            sg108e_vlan1_hack.PNG
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