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    • JailerJ
      Jailer
      last edited by

      @FranciscoFranco:

      Then i disconnect APU2 from my utility room and carry to a serial console machine for the actual flash.

      Couldn't you just do this over SSH? And why the update? Is there something not working for you that a BIOS flash will fix?

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        FranciscoFranco
        last edited by

        Well it did not go as planned. I rearranged cases so my pfSense is red and APU2 now and I still had to force the update.

        [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: flashrom --programmer internal -    w /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom
        flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
        flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
        
        Calibrating delay loop... OK.
        coreboot table found at 0x77fae000.
        Found chipset "AMD FCH".
        Enabling flash write... OK.
        Found Winbond flash chip "W25Q64.V" (8192 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x    00000000ff800000.
        This coreboot image (PC Engines:PC Engines apu2) does not appear to
        be correct for the detected mainboard (PC Engines:PCEngines apu2).
        Aborting. You can override this with -p internal:boardmismatch=force.
        
        

        So it appears  the name has different spelling. So I took a gamble and forced it.

        
        [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: flashrom -p internal:boardmismatch=force -w /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom
        flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
        flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
        
        Calibrating delay loop... delay loop is unreliable, trying to continue OK.
        coreboot table found at 0x77fae000.
        Found chipset "AMD FCH".
        Enabling flash write... OK.
        Found Winbond flash chip "W25Q64.V" (8192 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x    00000000ff800000.
        This coreboot image (PC Engines:PC Engines apu2) does not appear to
        be correct for the detected mainboard (PC Engines:PCEngines apu2).
        Proceeding anyway because user forced us to.
        Reading old flash chip contents... done.
        Erasing and writing flash chip... Erase/write done.
        Verifying flash... VERIFIED.
        

        Seemed to work fine. Help my breath and rebooted:

        PC Engines apu2
        coreboot build 07/24/2017
        BIOS version v4.6.0
        2032 MB DRAM
        
        SeaBIOS (version rel-1.10.2.1)
        
        Press F10 key now for boot menu
        
        Booting from Hard Disk...
        
        1  pfSense
        2  pfSense
        
        F6 PXE
        Boot:  1
        /boot/config: -S115200 -h
        Consoles: serial port
        

        Looking good. Back online with it now.

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        • F
          FranciscoFranco
          last edited by

          @Jailer:

          Couldn't you just do this over SSH? And why the update? Is there something not working for you that a BIOS flash will fix?

          I could have done it over the webGUI maybe. I figured best to do without traffic.

          I have a APU1 with the realteks and I want to bring it up to date. So I am doing all of them.

          Why does anybody use betas? Somebody has to be the guinea pig.

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          • J
            JasonAU
            last edited by

            @FranciscoFranco:

            Well it did not go as planned. I rearranged cases so my pfSense is red and APU2 now and I still had to force the update.

            [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: flashrom --programmer internal -    w /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom
            flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
            flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
            
            Calibrating delay loop... OK.
            coreboot table found at 0x77fae000.
            Found chipset "AMD FCH".
            Enabling flash write... OK.
            Found Winbond flash chip "W25Q64.V" (8192 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x    00000000ff800000.
            This coreboot image (PC Engines:PC Engines apu2) does not appear to
            be correct for the detected mainboard (PC Engines:PCEngines apu2).
            Aborting. You can override this with -p internal:boardmismatch=force.
            
            

            So it appears  the name has different spelling. So I took a gamble and forced it.

            
            [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: flashrom -p internal:boardmismatch=force -w /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom
            flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
            flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
            
            Calibrating delay loop... delay loop is unreliable, trying to continue OK.
            coreboot table found at 0x77fae000.
            Found chipset "AMD FCH".
            Enabling flash write... OK.
            Found Winbond flash chip "W25Q64.V" (8192 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x    00000000ff800000.
            This coreboot image (PC Engines:PC Engines apu2) does not appear to
            be correct for the detected mainboard (PC Engines:PCEngines apu2).
            Proceeding anyway because user forced us to.
            Reading old flash chip contents... done.
            Erasing and writing flash chip... Erase/write done.
            Verifying flash... VERIFIED.
            

            Seemed to work fine. Help my breath and rebooted:

            PC Engines apu2
            coreboot build 07/24/2017
            BIOS version v4.6.0
            2032 MB DRAM
            
            SeaBIOS (version rel-1.10.2.1)
            
            Press F10 key now for boot menu
            
            Booting from Hard Disk...
            
            1  pfSense
            2  pfSense
            
            F6 PXE
            Boot:  1
            /boot/config: -S115200 -h
            Consoles: serial port
            

            Looking good. Back online with it now.

            updated mine today to:

            Vendor: coreboot
            Version: v4.0.11
            Release Date: 07/24/2017

            Thanks for the advice up and running fine so far

            Brisbane Queensland Australia

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            • QinnQ
              Qinn
              last edited by

              @FranciscoFranco:

              So to do this on pfSense I did the following:
              From pfSense WebGUI>Diagnostics>Command Prompt

              pkg install -y flashrom

              mkdir /apu

              Then uploaded the uncompressed rom from my laptop to pfSense

              Upload File
              apu2_v4.6.0.rom

              File will end up in /tmp
              This will be deleted on reboot so copy to /apu with Command Prompt

              cp /tmp/apu2_v4.6.0.rom /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom

              Then i disconnect APU2 from my utility room and carry to a serial console machine for the actual flash.

              Thanks for this!! Can anyone tell me why you choose v4.6.0 instead of the 4.0.x version. I am on the apu2_v4.0.7.rom version and could use some guidance.

              Cheers Qinn

              Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
              Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
              Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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              • V
                VAMike
                last edited by

                @FranciscoFranco:

                I have a APU1 with the realteks and I want to bring it up to date.

                Well that one's easy: they dropped ongoing support for it and haven't issued anything beyond a couple of betas in 2014. Since neither of those betas became the production version in the past 3 years there's presumably something wrong with them.

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                  FranciscoFranco
                  last edited by

                  @Qinn:

                  Thanks for this!! Can anyone tell me why you choose v4.6.0 instead of the 4.0.x version. I am on the apu2_v4.0.7.rom version and could use some guidance.

                  Cheers Qinn

                  I chose 4.6.0 because I like living on the edge. This was just a learning experiment so I figured these Swiss people seem to have their act together and trusted them with a beta. It is their only product so I think they know whats going on.

                  @VAMike:

                  @FranciscoFranco:

                  I have a APU1 with the realteks and I want to bring it up to date.

                  Well that one's easy: they dropped ongoing support for it and haven't issued anything beyond a couple of betas in 2014. Since neither of those betas became the production version in the past 3 years there's presumably something wrong with them.

                  I use my APU1 for GPIO and FreeBSD. I modified the case for it by adding terminal block on top to breakout the GPIO's.
                  We all know the problems with Realtek network chips but I have found that using only re0 it is a good box for embedded tasks.
                  Not very worthy as a router. It does make a nice dedicated Wireless Access Point with all those expansion options.

                  I would like to buy any cheap APU1's out there. Drop me a PM if you have one to sell….

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                  • QinnQ
                    Qinn
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for you reply and the conformation, btw see below ;)

                    http://pcengines.info/forums/?page=post&id=D7A22025-3741-4AB7-8EAF-4D9748973722&fid=DF5ACB70-99C4-4C61-AFA6-4C0E0DB05B2A

                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                      FranciscoFranco
                      last edited by

                      I did notice that they did infact change the device name that it shows as from 'PCEngines apu2' to 'PC Engines apu2' in a earlier rom.
                      The ROM notes have all the changes well documented.
                      Why they couldn't handle a device name change without force is unknown to me.
                      I was reluctant to force it as I have throw out many self fried electronic goodies. Living on the edge.

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                      • QinnQ
                        Qinn
                        last edited by

                        In the PC Engines forum someone has "stuck beacon" errors with 4.6 and moved over to the 4.0.11 version, which seems stable for him. I don't have a WiFi module installed on the APU2 board, so maybe 4.6 could be stable.

                        Yet, the https://www.coreboot.org/Special:RecentChanges suggest there is sill some work on the APU2 and the 4.6 version is of april 2017
                        ( https://coreboot.org/releases/coreboot-4.6-relnotes.txt ).

                        For now I won't upgrade from the 4.0.7 version, as there seems no reason to.

                        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                          doktornotor Banned
                          last edited by

                          I certainly do NOT recommend the 4.6.0 version. Been testing it for 2 days and got 6 inexplicable kernel panics. Never seen one before with 4.0.7.

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                          • QinnQ
                            Qinn
                            last edited by

                            @doktornotor:

                            I certainly do NOT recommend the 4.6.0 version. Been testing it for 2 days and got 6 inexplicable kernel panics. Never seen one before with 4.0.7.

                            First, big thanks for the reply Dok!!

                            It seems that the releases v4.0.x, that are based on the PC Engines fork of coreboot, are the only ones that are stable and it is better to steer clear from the coreboot mainstream version v4.5.x and v4.6.x. Btw have you tried the v4.0.11 or higher versions?

                            Just a suggestion to report them to https://github.com/pcengines/coreboot/issues
                            Or to contact this guy https://github.com/pietrushnic who is the maintainer piotr.krol@3mdeb.com

                            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                              doktornotor Banned
                              last edited by

                              @Qinn:

                              Btw have you tried the v4.0.11 or higher versions?

                              Been running for ~36 hours by now, no crash. It has broken serial console output though at the beginning of the boot, affecting the pfSense boot menu. Does not happen with 4.0.7.

                              
                              --reboot build 20170724
                              \\OS version v4.0.11
                              ||80 MB ECC DRAM
                              //
                              --aBIOS (version rel-1.10.2.1)
                              \\
                              ||ess F10 key now for boot menu
                              //
                              --oting from Hard Disk...
                              \\
                              ||  pfSense
                              //
                              -- PXE
                              \\ot:  F1
                              ||bboooott//ccoonnffiigg::  --SS111155220000  --DD
                              //
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                              Summary: I'd stick with 4.0.7 and call it a day…

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                              • dennypageD
                                dennypage
                                last edited by

                                After a short discussion with PC Engines support, I did a force update on my APU2C4 from 4.0.7 to 4.0.11. In the for what it's worth category, I am not experiencing the serial console problem. Your mileage may vary.

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                                  doktornotor Banned
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                                  @Qinn:

                                  Just a suggestion to report them to https://github.com/pcengines/coreboot/issues
                                  Or to contact this guy https://github.com/pietrushnic who is the maintainer piotr.krol@3mdeb.com

                                  Well I might if I could get some crash dumps out of it, but there was nothing saved on any of those crashes.

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                                    FranciscoFranco
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                                    Firmware 4.6.0 has been up since I flashed it on mine.

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                                    • QinnQ
                                      Qinn
                                      last edited by

                                      @dennypage:

                                      After a short discussion with PC Engines support, I did a force update on my APU2C4 from 4.0.7 to 4.0.11. In the for what it's worth category, I am not experiencing the serial console problem. Your mileage may vary.

                                      From the reply of FranciscoFranco « Reply #13 on: September 29, 2017, 04:49:00 pm » the force seems necessary, because they have changed 'PCEngines' to 'PC Engines' in smbios tables and welcome string (see changelog confirms https://github.com/pcengines/coreboot/blob/coreboot-4.0.x/CHANGELOG.md in version v4.0.8 - 2017-03-31). so it seems there is a check on this string before it updates.

                                      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                      • QinnQ
                                        Qinn
                                        last edited by

                                        @FranciscoFranco:

                                        Firmware 4.6.0 has been up since I flashed it on mine.

                                        Your using the nano version for the APU2C4, just out of curiosity, why? My APU2C4 is equipped with a mSATA SSD and I use the full install.

                                        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                          FranciscoFranco
                                          last edited by

                                          Well primarily because I am booting off the SD Card. They have low cycle counts so I baby them with pfSense NanoBSD builds.

                                          The Phison cards from PCengines are a good deal for 6 bucks.
                                          I bought a handful for some of my troublesome Arm boards like BananaPi which like good SD cards. They seem durable.

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                                          • QinnQ
                                            Qinn
                                            last edited by

                                            @FranciscoFranco:

                                            Well primarily because I am booting off the SD Card. They have low cycle counts so I baby them with pfSense NanoBSD builds.

                                            The Phison cards from PCengines are a good deal for 6 bucks.
                                            I bought a handful for some of my troublesome Arm boards like BananaPi which like good SD cards. They seem durable.

                                            Using the nanoBSD version seems logical as you are booting from media with limited write cycles (USB stick, CF card, etc.).

                                            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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