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    • QinnQ
      Qinn
      last edited by

      Anyone already any experience with the apu2_v4.6.0.rom.tar.gz with is the new coreboot mainstream version?

      http://pcengines.ch/howto.htm#bios
      https://github.com/pcengines/coreboot/blob/coreboot-4.0.x/CHANGELOG.md
      https://coreboot.org/releases/coreboot-4.6-relnotes.txt

      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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        JasonAU
        last edited by

        What process have you guys used to update the apu2c4  ?

        I have a serial to USB adapter on the way I assume it's needed I purchased mine with pfsesne pre loaded the bios is 03/07/2016

        Brisbane Queensland Australia

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        • QinnQ
          Qinn
          last edited by

          @JasonAU:

          What process have you guys used to update the apu2c4  ?

          I have a serial to USB adapter on the way I assume it's needed I purchased mine with pfsesne pre loaded the bios is 03/07/2016

          You could look here http://forum.ipfire.org/viewtopic.php?t=16032 and you'll need the serial to usb adapter and a null modem cable

          https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Connecting_to_the_Serial_Console
          http://pcengines.ch/pdf/apu2.pdf

          Good luck

          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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            FranciscoFranco
            last edited by

            Well this esteemed user says that pfSense has a package that will do the update too.
            https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=136548.msg750664#msg750664
            Just in case you missed that post.

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              FranciscoFranco
              last edited by

              So to do this on pfSense I did the following:
              From pfSense WebGUI>Diagnostics>Command Prompt

              pkg install -y flashrom

              mkdir /apu

              Then uploaded the uncompressed rom from my laptop to pfSense

              Upload File
              apu2_v4.6.0.rom

              File will end up in /tmp
              This will be deleted on reboot so copy to /apu with Command Prompt

              cp /tmp/apu2_v4.6.0.rom /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom

              Then i disconnect APU2 from my utility room and carry to a serial console machine for the actual flash.

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                FranciscoFranco
                last edited by

                Upon bootup on the bench I go to #8 Shell
                From there i check to ensure rom is there.
                ls /apu

                Then i run the command needed to flash:

                [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: flashrom --programmer internal -w /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom
                flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
                flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
                
                Calibrating delay loop... delay loop is unreliable, trying to continue OK.
                coreboot table found at 0x77fae000.
                Found chipset "AMD FCH".
                Enabling flash write... OK.
                Found Winbond flash chip "W25Q64.V" (8192 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x000                     00000ff800000.
                This coreboot image (PC Engines:PC Engines apu2) does not appear to
                be correct for the detected mainboard (PC Engines:PCEngines apu3).
                Aborting. You can override this with -p internal:boardmismatch=force.
                

                Notice this failed? This was done on an APU3 by accident. Glad they have checks!!

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                • JailerJ
                  Jailer
                  last edited by

                  @FranciscoFranco:

                  Then i disconnect APU2 from my utility room and carry to a serial console machine for the actual flash.

                  Couldn't you just do this over SSH? And why the update? Is there something not working for you that a BIOS flash will fix?

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                    FranciscoFranco
                    last edited by

                    Well it did not go as planned. I rearranged cases so my pfSense is red and APU2 now and I still had to force the update.

                    [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: flashrom --programmer internal -    w /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom
                    flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
                    flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
                    
                    Calibrating delay loop... OK.
                    coreboot table found at 0x77fae000.
                    Found chipset "AMD FCH".
                    Enabling flash write... OK.
                    Found Winbond flash chip "W25Q64.V" (8192 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x    00000000ff800000.
                    This coreboot image (PC Engines:PC Engines apu2) does not appear to
                    be correct for the detected mainboard (PC Engines:PCEngines apu2).
                    Aborting. You can override this with -p internal:boardmismatch=force.
                    
                    

                    So it appears  the name has different spelling. So I took a gamble and forced it.

                    
                    [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: flashrom -p internal:boardmismatch=force -w /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom
                    flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
                    flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
                    
                    Calibrating delay loop... delay loop is unreliable, trying to continue OK.
                    coreboot table found at 0x77fae000.
                    Found chipset "AMD FCH".
                    Enabling flash write... OK.
                    Found Winbond flash chip "W25Q64.V" (8192 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x    00000000ff800000.
                    This coreboot image (PC Engines:PC Engines apu2) does not appear to
                    be correct for the detected mainboard (PC Engines:PCEngines apu2).
                    Proceeding anyway because user forced us to.
                    Reading old flash chip contents... done.
                    Erasing and writing flash chip... Erase/write done.
                    Verifying flash... VERIFIED.
                    

                    Seemed to work fine. Help my breath and rebooted:

                    PC Engines apu2
                    coreboot build 07/24/2017
                    BIOS version v4.6.0
                    2032 MB DRAM
                    
                    SeaBIOS (version rel-1.10.2.1)
                    
                    Press F10 key now for boot menu
                    
                    Booting from Hard Disk...
                    
                    1  pfSense
                    2  pfSense
                    
                    F6 PXE
                    Boot:  1
                    /boot/config: -S115200 -h
                    Consoles: serial port
                    

                    Looking good. Back online with it now.

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                      FranciscoFranco
                      last edited by

                      @Jailer:

                      Couldn't you just do this over SSH? And why the update? Is there something not working for you that a BIOS flash will fix?

                      I could have done it over the webGUI maybe. I figured best to do without traffic.

                      I have a APU1 with the realteks and I want to bring it up to date. So I am doing all of them.

                      Why does anybody use betas? Somebody has to be the guinea pig.

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                        JasonAU
                        last edited by

                        @FranciscoFranco:

                        Well it did not go as planned. I rearranged cases so my pfSense is red and APU2 now and I still had to force the update.

                        [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: flashrom --programmer internal -    w /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom
                        flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
                        flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
                        
                        Calibrating delay loop... OK.
                        coreboot table found at 0x77fae000.
                        Found chipset "AMD FCH".
                        Enabling flash write... OK.
                        Found Winbond flash chip "W25Q64.V" (8192 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x    00000000ff800000.
                        This coreboot image (PC Engines:PC Engines apu2) does not appear to
                        be correct for the detected mainboard (PC Engines:PCEngines apu2).
                        Aborting. You can override this with -p internal:boardmismatch=force.
                        
                        

                        So it appears  the name has different spelling. So I took a gamble and forced it.

                        
                        [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: flashrom -p internal:boardmismatch=force -w /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom
                        flashrom v0.9.9-r1955 on FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p19 (amd64)
                        flashrom is free software, get the source code at https://flashrom.org
                        
                        Calibrating delay loop... delay loop is unreliable, trying to continue OK.
                        coreboot table found at 0x77fae000.
                        Found chipset "AMD FCH".
                        Enabling flash write... OK.
                        Found Winbond flash chip "W25Q64.V" (8192 kB, SPI) mapped at physical address 0x    00000000ff800000.
                        This coreboot image (PC Engines:PC Engines apu2) does not appear to
                        be correct for the detected mainboard (PC Engines:PCEngines apu2).
                        Proceeding anyway because user forced us to.
                        Reading old flash chip contents... done.
                        Erasing and writing flash chip... Erase/write done.
                        Verifying flash... VERIFIED.
                        

                        Seemed to work fine. Help my breath and rebooted:

                        PC Engines apu2
                        coreboot build 07/24/2017
                        BIOS version v4.6.0
                        2032 MB DRAM
                        
                        SeaBIOS (version rel-1.10.2.1)
                        
                        Press F10 key now for boot menu
                        
                        Booting from Hard Disk...
                        
                        1  pfSense
                        2  pfSense
                        
                        F6 PXE
                        Boot:  1
                        /boot/config: -S115200 -h
                        Consoles: serial port
                        

                        Looking good. Back online with it now.

                        updated mine today to:

                        Vendor: coreboot
                        Version: v4.0.11
                        Release Date: 07/24/2017

                        Thanks for the advice up and running fine so far

                        Brisbane Queensland Australia

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                        • QinnQ
                          Qinn
                          last edited by

                          @FranciscoFranco:

                          So to do this on pfSense I did the following:
                          From pfSense WebGUI>Diagnostics>Command Prompt

                          pkg install -y flashrom

                          mkdir /apu

                          Then uploaded the uncompressed rom from my laptop to pfSense

                          Upload File
                          apu2_v4.6.0.rom

                          File will end up in /tmp
                          This will be deleted on reboot so copy to /apu with Command Prompt

                          cp /tmp/apu2_v4.6.0.rom /apu/apu2_v4.6.0.rom

                          Then i disconnect APU2 from my utility room and carry to a serial console machine for the actual flash.

                          Thanks for this!! Can anyone tell me why you choose v4.6.0 instead of the 4.0.x version. I am on the apu2_v4.0.7.rom version and could use some guidance.

                          Cheers Qinn

                          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                            VAMike
                            last edited by

                            @FranciscoFranco:

                            I have a APU1 with the realteks and I want to bring it up to date.

                            Well that one's easy: they dropped ongoing support for it and haven't issued anything beyond a couple of betas in 2014. Since neither of those betas became the production version in the past 3 years there's presumably something wrong with them.

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                              FranciscoFranco
                              last edited by

                              @Qinn:

                              Thanks for this!! Can anyone tell me why you choose v4.6.0 instead of the 4.0.x version. I am on the apu2_v4.0.7.rom version and could use some guidance.

                              Cheers Qinn

                              I chose 4.6.0 because I like living on the edge. This was just a learning experiment so I figured these Swiss people seem to have their act together and trusted them with a beta. It is their only product so I think they know whats going on.

                              @VAMike:

                              @FranciscoFranco:

                              I have a APU1 with the realteks and I want to bring it up to date.

                              Well that one's easy: they dropped ongoing support for it and haven't issued anything beyond a couple of betas in 2014. Since neither of those betas became the production version in the past 3 years there's presumably something wrong with them.

                              I use my APU1 for GPIO and FreeBSD. I modified the case for it by adding terminal block on top to breakout the GPIO's.
                              We all know the problems with Realtek network chips but I have found that using only re0 it is a good box for embedded tasks.
                              Not very worthy as a router. It does make a nice dedicated Wireless Access Point with all those expansion options.

                              I would like to buy any cheap APU1's out there. Drop me a PM if you have one to sell….

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                              • QinnQ
                                Qinn
                                last edited by

                                Thanks for you reply and the conformation, btw see below ;)

                                http://pcengines.info/forums/?page=post&id=D7A22025-3741-4AB7-8EAF-4D9748973722&fid=DF5ACB70-99C4-4C61-AFA6-4C0E0DB05B2A

                                Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                  FranciscoFranco
                                  last edited by

                                  I did notice that they did infact change the device name that it shows as from 'PCEngines apu2' to 'PC Engines apu2' in a earlier rom.
                                  The ROM notes have all the changes well documented.
                                  Why they couldn't handle a device name change without force is unknown to me.
                                  I was reluctant to force it as I have throw out many self fried electronic goodies. Living on the edge.

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                                  • QinnQ
                                    Qinn
                                    last edited by

                                    In the PC Engines forum someone has "stuck beacon" errors with 4.6 and moved over to the 4.0.11 version, which seems stable for him. I don't have a WiFi module installed on the APU2 board, so maybe 4.6 could be stable.

                                    Yet, the https://www.coreboot.org/Special:RecentChanges suggest there is sill some work on the APU2 and the 4.6 version is of april 2017
                                    ( https://coreboot.org/releases/coreboot-4.6-relnotes.txt ).

                                    For now I won't upgrade from the 4.0.7 version, as there seems no reason to.

                                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                      doktornotor Banned
                                      last edited by

                                      I certainly do NOT recommend the 4.6.0 version. Been testing it for 2 days and got 6 inexplicable kernel panics. Never seen one before with 4.0.7.

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                                      • QinnQ
                                        Qinn
                                        last edited by

                                        @doktornotor:

                                        I certainly do NOT recommend the 4.6.0 version. Been testing it for 2 days and got 6 inexplicable kernel panics. Never seen one before with 4.0.7.

                                        First, big thanks for the reply Dok!!

                                        It seems that the releases v4.0.x, that are based on the PC Engines fork of coreboot, are the only ones that are stable and it is better to steer clear from the coreboot mainstream version v4.5.x and v4.6.x. Btw have you tried the v4.0.11 or higher versions?

                                        Just a suggestion to report them to https://github.com/pcengines/coreboot/issues
                                        Or to contact this guy https://github.com/pietrushnic who is the maintainer piotr.krol@3mdeb.com

                                        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                          doktornotor Banned
                                          last edited by

                                          @Qinn:

                                          Btw have you tried the v4.0.11 or higher versions?

                                          Been running for ~36 hours by now, no crash. It has broken serial console output though at the beginning of the boot, affecting the pfSense boot menu. Does not happen with 4.0.7.

                                          
                                          --reboot build 20170724
                                          \\OS version v4.0.11
                                          ||80 MB ECC DRAM
                                          //
                                          --aBIOS (version rel-1.10.2.1)
                                          \\
                                          ||ess F10 key now for boot menu
                                          //
                                          --oting from Hard Disk...
                                          \\
                                          ||  pfSense
                                          //
                                          -- PXE
                                          \\ot:  F1
                                          ||bboooott//ccoonnffiigg::  --SS111155220000  --DD
                                          //
                                          --
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                                          Summary: I'd stick with 4.0.7 and call it a day…

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                                            After a short discussion with PC Engines support, I did a force update on my APU2C4 from 4.0.7 to 4.0.11. In the for what it's worth category, I am not experiencing the serial console problem. Your mileage may vary.

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