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    Pfsense directly connected to fiber dsl (No modem)

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      samyboyz
      last edited by

      Unfortunately bell's tech support personnel say it can't be done (connection without dsl modem) but i know it can, cause i saw it working..i'm bout to give up and install the modem i guess.

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        If it works with ethernet directly-connected then you just need to get it directly-connected via ethernet.

        Again, pfSense has nothing to do with Layer 1.

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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          samyboyz
          last edited by

          I've attached the pictures of what was working which is no longer working without any changes made.. any suggestions?

          @Derelict:

          If it works with ethernet directly-connected then you just need to get it directly-connected via ethernet.

          Again, pfSense has nothing to do with Layer 1.

          ![Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.40 PM.PNG](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.40 PM.PNG)
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          ![Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.35 PM.PNG](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.35 PM.PNG)
          ![Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.35 PM.PNG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.35 PM.PNG_thumb)

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            What version of pfSense?

            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/7981

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              samyboyz
              last edited by

              I could not get it working on 2.3.4 after only unplugging the unit for a few weeks, no changes made.

              I'm not on 2.4.1 but have not tested.

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                As long as you are on 2.3.4 it does not apply. Not sure what to tell you there. Check your PPP logs for anything that looks like it is not working.

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                  samyboyz
                  last edited by

                  Ok thanks :)

                  So basically i can bypass the modem and PPPoe into Bell's DSL service with pfsense providing my setup is accurate right?

                  Also, at home i have an RJ11 phone input thus cannot do testing before bringing in the router to the customer's is there a workaround to convert RJ11 to RJ45? I tried an adapter but it didn't work (pretty stupid of me i know lol)

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    It is ethernet or it is not. Whatever wiring is terminated with an RJ11 is almost always not ethernet.

                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                      samyboyz
                      last edited by

                      Agreed, i was just hoping there was a way to test the setup at home where i only have an rj11 input.

                      @Derelict:

                      It is ethernet or it is not. Whatever wiring is terminated with an RJ11 is almost always not ethernet.

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        You need ethernet to connect to pfSense. It has nothing to do with what jack is terminated, though RJ11 is pretty much never ethernet.

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          samyboyz
                          last edited by

                          Ok got it to work with NO MODEM by upgrading to latest release..and the following settings (attached in jpeg) for those interested in a solution.

                          ![Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.35 PM.PNG](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.35 PM.PNG)
                          ![Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.35 PM.PNG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.35 PM.PNG_thumb)
                          ![Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.40 PM.PNG](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.40 PM.PNG)
                          ![Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.40 PM.PNG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screen Shot 10-26-17 at 10.40 PM.PNG_thumb)

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                            breakaway
                            last edited by

                            What version were you using before upgrading to the "latest" one?

                            Version 2.4.1 was shipped with serious faults - if you have a PPPoE assigned to VLAN port (as you have done), then it wouldn't connect.

                            I wonder if this was why you had such trouble getting it working.

                            Caught me out for a few days. I don't normally read every release note for every system I use so I guess this is my fault  :)

                            Here's a discussion about it: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=138804.0

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                              samyboyz
                              last edited by

                              Currently I have 2.4.2 installed, i might have had another issue prior. Now i have another issue, basically i'm capped at 100Mbps whereas the DSL service is 250Mbps Up & Down. My NICs are both gigabit so i'm wondering what is causing the loss of performance? Could it be the PCs specs? Duo Core..

                              Thanks again for all your help :)

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