Pfsense directly connected to fiber dsl (No modem)

[JKnott]

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This is why I suggested calling the customer's Bell rep, who should know what the customer has.  I mentioned 2 types of connection, with different configurations.  When calling Bell Canada, there are different numbers for each type.  One gets you a rep that handles residential and small business customers for ADSL type services.  There's another number for dedicated connections, such as where the media convert is used.  There should be a circuit number which the Bell rep can look up, to determine how to support it.

[samyboyz]

I found a Backup file with Accurate Settings, problem is i no longer can log in from web gui :( IP is correct, i can ping the pfsense router but cannot login to webgui even with https..

Is there a special port perhaps?

[Grimson]

Open a shell and use:

sockstat -l | grep nginx

[samyboyz]

Thanks for your reply, basically i found out that the previous tech had disabled GUI access, all i did was restore his "working" backup, reset password as i did not have it and reset LAN to whatever value we've always been using and it still doesn't work. I don't get it…makes no sense :(

@Grimson:

Open a shell and use:

sockstat -l | grep nginx

[samyboyz]

Alright, this is weird :(

The pfsense router worked fine with no modem just connected directly to Bell's Fibe Service via rj45 until i solely unplugged it, i managed to get it to work with a modem at my house but not at my customer's with no modem..

I purchased an RJ11 to RJ45 adapter as i only have an RJ11 input at my house and i need an RJ45 to test pfsense without a modem..would this work?

Please see attachments for VLAN settings pertaining to bypassing the modem..does anything look off? Thx :)


[Derelict]

RJ11? RJ45?

It is either ethernet or it is not. If you need a modem to bridge from the ISP service to Ethernet then, no, pfSense cannot be used without the modem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIA/EIA-568

[samyboyz]

I saw it working with no modem, evem took it offline and brought it to my place for testing. They had an rj45 cable coming im from bell.

I agree that my attempt to replicate via rj11 to rj45 adapter made no sense lol anyhow, at this point the setup no longer works at the customer's.. while i only changed the dsl user name and password as the provider changed it meanwhile.

Any suggestions? Previous tech got it working apprently :(

[Derelict]

Need cooperation with the ISP. Sounds like you need good ethernet connectivity to the ISP device. Not really a pfSense problem. I would get with the ISP.

[samyboyz]

Unfortunately bell's tech support personnel say it can't be done (connection without dsl modem) but i know it can, cause i saw it working..i'm bout to give up and install the modem i guess.

[Derelict]

If it works with ethernet directly-connected then you just need to get it directly-connected via ethernet.

Again, pfSense has nothing to do with Layer 1.

[samyboyz]

I've attached the pictures of what was working which is no longer working without any changes made.. any suggestions?

@Derelict:

If it works with ethernet directly-connected then you just need to get it directly-connected via ethernet.

Again, pfSense has nothing to do with Layer 1.


[Derelict]

What version of pfSense?

https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/7981

[samyboyz]

I could not get it working on 2.3.4 after only unplugging the unit for a few weeks, no changes made.

I'm not on 2.4.1 but have not tested.

[Derelict]

As long as you are on 2.3.4 it does not apply. Not sure what to tell you there. Check your PPP logs for anything that looks like it is not working.

[samyboyz]

Ok thanks :)

So basically i can bypass the modem and PPPoe into Bell's DSL service with pfsense providing my setup is accurate right?

Also, at home i have an RJ11 phone input thus cannot do testing before bringing in the router to the customer's is there a workaround to convert RJ11 to RJ45? I tried an adapter but it didn't work (pretty stupid of me i know lol)

[Derelict]

It is ethernet or it is not. Whatever wiring is terminated with an RJ11 is almost always not ethernet.

[samyboyz]

Agreed, i was just hoping there was a way to test the setup at home where i only have an rj11 input.

@Derelict:

It is ethernet or it is not. Whatever wiring is terminated with an RJ11 is almost always not ethernet.

[Derelict]

You need ethernet to connect to pfSense. It has nothing to do with what jack is terminated, though RJ11 is pretty much never ethernet.

[samyboyz]

Ok got it to work with NO MODEM by upgrading to latest release..and the following settings (attached in jpeg) for those interested in a solution.


[breakaway]

What version were you using before upgrading to the "latest" one?

Version 2.4.1 was shipped with serious faults - if you have a PPPoE assigned to VLAN port (as you have done), then it wouldn't connect.

I wonder if this was why you had such trouble getting it working.

Caught me out for a few days. I don't normally read every release note for every system I use so I guess this is my fault  :)

Here's a discussion about it: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=138804.0