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    n3by
    last edited by Nov 12, 2017, 3:55 PM

    Sg108E: at least in GUI I deleted default vlan 1.

    ![2017-11-12 16.50.09.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/2017-11-12 16.50.09.jpg)
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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Nov 12, 2017, 3:56 PM

      Seems to have some file validation/checksum that prevents uploading a modified file…. no one else seeing that? I'd be surprised if they actually removed that from the v2.

      Steve

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        n3by
        last edited by Nov 12, 2017, 4:02 PM

        Tested and NO checksum for:
        Firmware Version 1.0.2 Build 20160526 Rel.34615
        Hardware Version TL-SG108E 2.0

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Nov 12, 2017, 4:21 PM

          Hmm, using:

          Firmware Version 1.0.1 Build 20131023 Rel.33236
          Hardware Version TL-SG1016DE 1.0

          Refuses any edited config

          Invalid config file! Please double check!

          Yet lexxai seems to be good on his 1016DEv2….

          Steve

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            jahonix
            last edited by Nov 12, 2017, 4:57 PM

            Check if there's a checksum or such yourself?

            a) save config_1
            b) change something small like hostname one character from lower to upper case. Don't change length.
            c) save config_2
            d) diff config_1 and config_2

            e) report result.

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by Nov 12, 2017, 6:19 PM

              Speculating….

              The things that change other than the config change are the password seems to be re-hashed and stored twice. And at the begging of the file there is a 16bit value that changes. I'd bet that's a 16bit checksum but of what exactly I'm not sure. Or what algorithm... Not found a match so far.

              Steve

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                JKnott
                last edited by Nov 12, 2017, 6:45 PM

                I can not access PCs that belong on another VLAN.  Would you please confirm that's what you're seeing too?

                That's how VLANs are supposed to work, as though each VLAN is on a separate switch.  It's the accessing the management from any VLAN that's messed up.  It should be possible to have the management on it's own VLAN, unreachable from any other.

                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                  tpham3783
                  last edited by Nov 12, 2017, 11:44 PM

                  @ecfx:

                  Sg108E: at least in GUI I deleted default vlan 1.

                  Good find!

                  I've always thought they implemented a front-end logic (webpage) for first vlan to be non-editable; hence you must have the first vlan as a place holder!

                  Thanks!

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                    thuety
                    last edited by Nov 15, 2017, 7:21 AM

                    @ecfx:

                    Sg108E: at least in GUI I deleted default vlan 1.

                    Thanks, didn't have the courage to try this ;)

                    I'm guessing the hex 01 is VLAN 1.

                    vlan1.PNG
                    vlan1.PNG_thumb

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                      n3by
                      last edited by Nov 15, 2017, 7:27 AM

                      yes, and this changes seem to persist if you add-delete-change other vlans.

                      If I could figure how to set 2 "true" - trunk ports will be great.

                      p.s.
                      After that I made yesterday other try that soft bricked the switch but can be fix easy with hard button reset.

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                        lexxai
                        last edited by Nov 17, 2017, 7:33 PM Nov 17, 2017, 7:30 PM

                        @stephenw10:

                        Hmm, using:

                        Firmware Version 1.0.1 Build 20131023 Rel.33236
                        Hardware Version TL-SG1016DE 1.0

                        Refuses any edited config

                        Invalid config file! Please double check!

                        Yet lexxai seems to be good on his 1016DEv2….

                        Steve

                        I have same troubles with return to device changed configuration file…

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                        We have what we have. Everything that happens - for the better.

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                          juanchopablo
                          last edited by Nov 19, 2017, 5:31 PM

                          I have 2 108v2, what would I have to edit if I want to remove vlan 1 just from ports 7 and 8?

                          Thanks,

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Nov 20, 2017, 4:49 PM

                            @lexxai:

                            I have same troubles with return to device changed configuration file…

                            Hmm, damn.
                            What is that checksum I wonder….

                            Steve

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                              bilbo
                              last edited by Dec 13, 2017, 12:28 AM Dec 12, 2017, 9:06 PM

                              Is this vlan 1 issue the reason i see tplink broadcast traffic on all ports? I have the five port.

                              Edit: I did the hex hack and removed all ports from the vlan but still see this broadcast, any pointers on stopping it.

                              edit: scrap that, it appears to have been the loop detection setting! Nice to get rid of the default vlan though.

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                                tpham3783
                                last edited by Dec 22, 2017, 4:40 PM

                                Hi all,

                                It looks like tplink is going to fix the issue related to unlinking vlan1 according to this thread http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?96245-TL-SG-108E-V2-VLAN-1-tagging#post226139

                                They will have a beta firmware to test in a week or two.  I am glad that the company has regnonized that it is a bug and is taking corrective action.

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by Dec 22, 2017, 5:06 PM

                                  hehe - sweet… Will for sure fire the POS sitting on my shelf when this beta firmware comes out..

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by Dec 22, 2017, 7:29 PM

                                    Mmm, better late than never I guess.  ;)

                                    I hope they might think about fixing some other models, such os the one I have. Though it's way old at this point so I'm not holding my breath!

                                    Steve

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                                      BrucexLing
                                      last edited by Dec 24, 2017, 3:14 AM

                                      @tpham3783:

                                      They will have a beta firmware to test in a week or two.  I am glad that the company has regnonized that it is a bug and is taking corrective action.

                                      This could put TPLink back on the pedestal with a product fit for purpose.

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                                        n3by
                                        last edited by Jan 9, 2018, 3:00 PM

                                        http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?96245-TL-SG-108E-V2-VLAN-1-tagging&p=227797&viewfull=1#post227797

                                        New firmware released for:
                                        TL-SG105E v3
                                        TL-SG108E v3

                                        I tested 108E v2 and can be flashed with v3 Firmware Version: 1.0.0 Build 20171214 Rel.70905

                                        It look like only a minor cosmetic change to allow VLAN1 edit ( like I did it on config edit some time ago ) and not a security update to fix management access from any port/vlan.

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by Jan 9, 2018, 3:12 PM

                                          :(

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