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    • lexxaiL
      lexxai
      last edited by

      @stephenw10:

      Hmm, using:

      Firmware Version 1.0.1 Build 20131023 Rel.33236
      Hardware Version TL-SG1016DE 1.0

      Refuses any edited config

      Invalid config file! Please double check!

      Yet lexxai seems to be good on his 1016DEv2….

      Steve

      I have same troubles with return to device changed configuration file…

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      We have what we have. Everything that happens - for the better.

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        juanchopablo
        last edited by

        I have 2 108v2, what would I have to edit if I want to remove vlan 1 just from ports 7 and 8?

        Thanks,

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          @lexxai:

          I have same troubles with return to device changed configuration file…

          Hmm, damn.
          What is that checksum I wonder….

          Steve

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            bilbo
            last edited by

            Is this vlan 1 issue the reason i see tplink broadcast traffic on all ports? I have the five port.

            Edit: I did the hex hack and removed all ports from the vlan but still see this broadcast, any pointers on stopping it.

            edit: scrap that, it appears to have been the loop detection setting! Nice to get rid of the default vlan though.

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              tpham3783
              last edited by

              Hi all,

              It looks like tplink is going to fix the issue related to unlinking vlan1 according to this thread http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?96245-TL-SG-108E-V2-VLAN-1-tagging#post226139

              They will have a beta firmware to test in a week or two.  I am glad that the company has regnonized that it is a bug and is taking corrective action.

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                hehe - sweet… Will for sure fire the POS sitting on my shelf when this beta firmware comes out..

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Mmm, better late than never I guess.  ;)

                  I hope they might think about fixing some other models, such os the one I have. Though it's way old at this point so I'm not holding my breath!

                  Steve

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                    BrucexLing
                    last edited by

                    @tpham3783:

                    They will have a beta firmware to test in a week or two.  I am glad that the company has regnonized that it is a bug and is taking corrective action.

                    This could put TPLink back on the pedestal with a product fit for purpose.

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                      n3by
                      last edited by

                      http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?96245-TL-SG-108E-V2-VLAN-1-tagging&p=227797&viewfull=1#post227797

                      New firmware released for:
                      TL-SG105E v3
                      TL-SG108E v3

                      I tested 108E v2 and can be flashed with v3 Firmware Version: 1.0.0 Build 20171214 Rel.70905

                      It look like only a minor cosmetic change to allow VLAN1 edit ( like I did it on config edit some time ago ) and not a security update to fix management access from any port/vlan.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        :(

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by

                          so if you broadcast on vlan 1 all ports see it?  WTF?

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                            Apocalypse @stephenw10
                            last edited by Apocalypse

                            @stephenw10 Maybe is CRC16/CCITT (kermit) or CRC16/X-25. Yoy can try hashing the config file in this or more CRC16 algorithms with the checksum offsets filled with zeros or FF and compare results with original checksum. This checksum is based on config file, maybe in full config because this can verify every change made.

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                            • noplanN
                              noplan @johnpoz
                              last edited by noplan

                              @johnpoz said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                              While I agree in enterprise setup you always remove vlan 1, do not use vlan 1 etc.. Your management vlan is not vlan 1, etc etc etc

                              As long as u can remove vlan1 from the ports u r pretty safe
                              Removing VLAN 1 not workin on a lot of lower priced switches..
                              eg zyxel or Dlink

                              I was pretty sure that
                              I can remove vlan1 membership of ports on tplink smart switches in 2019/2020

                              Hmmm gonna check

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @noplan said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                                Removing VLAN 1 not workin on a lot of lower priced switches..

                                Not true at all.. I have multiple low priced smart switches on the shelf to play with.. Only one that did this nonsense where you could not remove vlan 1 from a port was the tplink that I have run into..

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                                • noplanN
                                  noplan @johnpoz
                                  last edited by

                                  @johnpoz

                                  tplink, cool we use them a lot for low budget setups
                                  And always remove VLAN 1 but yep depending on version and firmware

                                  Never run into a problem on an audit or cert when we told them
                                  That there is no default VLAN (1) on the switch

                                  But bottom line... Remove vlan1 on low budget switch removes some security concerns tooooo

                                  😎

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @noplan said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                                    That there is no default VLAN (1) on the switch

                                    So you lied to them..

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                                    • noplanN
                                      noplan @johnpoz
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnpoz

                                      No port is member to vlan1

                                      I would never ever lie to a 3rd party auditor ggggggggg

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        that is different than removing vlan 1 from the device and setting a different vlan as default ;)

                                        The reason tplink stated you couldn't remove vlan 1 on a port, is you wouldn't be able to admin the switch.. Its possible on those low end switches that do not allow you to change the default vlan.. 1 port has to remain in vlan 1 to be able to admin it.

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                                        • noplanN
                                          noplan @johnpoz
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz

                                          Default VLAN ist always 666 👺👺👺

                                          As long as the core switches supports this funNonsens

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                                          • noplanN
                                            noplan @johnpoz
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnpoz said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                                            1 port has to remain in vlan 1 to be able to admin it.

                                            Yes true...

                                            Got one tplink in the mail today to set up for a super low budget... I'm gonna check this VLAN1 fun next hours....

                                            First New Light bulbs needed :)

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