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    • thuetyT
      thuety
      last edited by

      @ecfx:

      Sg108E: at least in GUI I deleted default vlan 1.

      Thanks, didn't have the courage to try this ;)

      I'm guessing the hex 01 is VLAN 1.

      vlan1.PNG
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        n3by
        last edited by

        yes, and this changes seem to persist if you add-delete-change other vlans.

        If I could figure how to set 2 "true" - trunk ports will be great.

        p.s.
        After that I made yesterday other try that soft bricked the switch but can be fix easy with hard button reset.

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        • lexxaiL
          lexxai
          last edited by

          @stephenw10:

          Hmm, using:

          Firmware Version 1.0.1 Build 20131023 Rel.33236
          Hardware Version TL-SG1016DE 1.0

          Refuses any edited config

          Invalid config file! Please double check!

          Yet lexxai seems to be good on his 1016DEv2….

          Steve

          I have same troubles with return to device changed configuration file…

          –
          We have what we have. Everything that happens - for the better.

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          • J
            juanchopablo
            last edited by

            I have 2 108v2, what would I have to edit if I want to remove vlan 1 just from ports 7 and 8?

            Thanks,

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              @lexxai:

              I have same troubles with return to device changed configuration file…

              Hmm, damn.
              What is that checksum I wonder….

              Steve

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                bilbo
                last edited by

                Is this vlan 1 issue the reason i see tplink broadcast traffic on all ports? I have the five port.

                Edit: I did the hex hack and removed all ports from the vlan but still see this broadcast, any pointers on stopping it.

                edit: scrap that, it appears to have been the loop detection setting! Nice to get rid of the default vlan though.

                ![Screenshot from 2017-12-12 23-35-26.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screenshot from 2017-12-12 23-35-26.png)
                ![Screenshot from 2017-12-12 23-35-26.png_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Screenshot from 2017-12-12 23-35-26.png_thumb)

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                  tpham3783
                  last edited by

                  Hi all,

                  It looks like tplink is going to fix the issue related to unlinking vlan1 according to this thread http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?96245-TL-SG-108E-V2-VLAN-1-tagging#post226139

                  They will have a beta firmware to test in a week or two.  I am glad that the company has regnonized that it is a bug and is taking corrective action.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    hehe - sweet… Will for sure fire the POS sitting on my shelf when this beta firmware comes out..

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Mmm, better late than never I guess.  ;)

                      I hope they might think about fixing some other models, such os the one I have. Though it's way old at this point so I'm not holding my breath!

                      Steve

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                        BrucexLing
                        last edited by

                        @tpham3783:

                        They will have a beta firmware to test in a week or two.  I am glad that the company has regnonized that it is a bug and is taking corrective action.

                        This could put TPLink back on the pedestal with a product fit for purpose.

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                          n3by
                          last edited by

                          http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?96245-TL-SG-108E-V2-VLAN-1-tagging&p=227797&viewfull=1#post227797

                          New firmware released for:
                          TL-SG105E v3
                          TL-SG108E v3

                          I tested 108E v2 and can be flashed with v3 Firmware Version: 1.0.0 Build 20171214 Rel.70905

                          It look like only a minor cosmetic change to allow VLAN1 edit ( like I did it on config edit some time ago ) and not a security update to fix management access from any port/vlan.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            :(

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              so if you broadcast on vlan 1 all ports see it?  WTF?

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                                Apocalypse @stephenw10
                                last edited by Apocalypse

                                @stephenw10 Maybe is CRC16/CCITT (kermit) or CRC16/X-25. Yoy can try hashing the config file in this or more CRC16 algorithms with the checksum offsets filled with zeros or FF and compare results with original checksum. This checksum is based on config file, maybe in full config because this can verify every change made.

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                                • noplanN
                                  noplan @johnpoz
                                  last edited by noplan

                                  @johnpoz said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                                  While I agree in enterprise setup you always remove vlan 1, do not use vlan 1 etc.. Your management vlan is not vlan 1, etc etc etc

                                  As long as u can remove vlan1 from the ports u r pretty safe
                                  Removing VLAN 1 not workin on a lot of lower priced switches..
                                  eg zyxel or Dlink

                                  I was pretty sure that
                                  I can remove vlan1 membership of ports on tplink smart switches in 2019/2020

                                  Hmmm gonna check

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @noplan said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                                    Removing VLAN 1 not workin on a lot of lower priced switches..

                                    Not true at all.. I have multiple low priced smart switches on the shelf to play with.. Only one that did this nonsense where you could not remove vlan 1 from a port was the tplink that I have run into..

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                                    • noplanN
                                      noplan @johnpoz
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnpoz

                                      tplink, cool we use them a lot for low budget setups
                                      And always remove VLAN 1 but yep depending on version and firmware

                                      Never run into a problem on an audit or cert when we told them
                                      That there is no default VLAN (1) on the switch

                                      But bottom line... Remove vlan1 on low budget switch removes some security concerns tooooo

                                      😎

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @noplan said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                                        That there is no default VLAN (1) on the switch

                                        So you lied to them..

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                                        • noplanN
                                          noplan @johnpoz
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz

                                          No port is member to vlan1

                                          I would never ever lie to a 3rd party auditor ggggggggg

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            that is different than removing vlan 1 from the device and setting a different vlan as default ;)

                                            The reason tplink stated you couldn't remove vlan 1 on a port, is you wouldn't be able to admin the switch.. Its possible on those low end switches that do not allow you to change the default vlan.. 1 port has to remain in vlan 1 to be able to admin it.

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