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    Disappointing sub Gb throughput using server hardware.

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      Superfish1000 @johnpoz
      last edited by

      @johnpoz Comments refer to the quote above. The photo was my reply. I didn't think they would be causing an issue so I didn't bother disabling them. If you think they might be an issue I'll just turn them off. I do know they are there. Thankfully I'm not a total idiot.

      @stephenw10 said in Disappointing sub Gb throughput using server hardware.:

      Where are you testing between on that diagram?

      I am testing between a few things there. The LAN tests were between the desktop and Ubuntu VM to sanity check and make sure my hardware wasn't borked before I even got to the firewall. The other tests were conducted between one of those devices and the firewall.
      In the case of the through firewall tests I put the Comcast modem router into it's normal configuration(LAN) and connected a toughbook to the other side to allow me to test through.

      Is that traffic going over VLANs at all?

      None that I'm playing with. I have security cameras segmented on a VLAN and they are sending data to the NVR but it is marginal, < 5 mbps. I had this issue long before I set those up however so this isn't a result of that.

      Really you should start with something very basic and work up if you can. Default config, just WAN and LAN, test between ion iperf server on the WAN and a client on the LAN. If you still see less that line speed there then you have a deeper problem to investigate.

      I will completely unplug everything if you want and test it again but I've had this issue since I installed the firewall through rewiring and switch changes.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, OK.

        It's less the wiring and additional devices that I would want to remove and more about the firewall config.

        That said your LAN to LAN result doesn't looks that great. If I run a test between local clients I see:

        steve@steve-MMLP7AP-00 ~ $ iperf3 -c 172.21.16.88
        Connecting to host 172.21.16.88, port 5201
        [  4] local 172.21.16.5 port 33030 connected to 172.21.16.88 port 5201
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr  Cwnd
        [  4]   0.00-1.00   sec   112 MBytes   943 Mbits/sec    0   86.3 KBytes       
        [  4]   1.00-2.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec    0    106 KBytes       
        [  4]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec    0    106 KBytes       
        [  4]   3.00-4.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec    0    106 KBytes       
        [  4]   4.00-5.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec    0    106 KBytes       
        [  4]   5.00-6.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec    0    106 KBytes       
        [  4]   6.00-7.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec    0    106 KBytes       
        [  4]   7.00-8.00   sec   112 MBytes   941 Mbits/sec    0    164 KBytes       
        [  4]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec    0    164 KBytes       
        [  4]   9.00-10.00  sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec    0    430 KBytes       
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Retr
        [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   942 Mbits/sec    0             sender
        [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   941 Mbits/sec                  receiver
        
        iperf Done.
        

        Steve

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          Yeah if your not seeing at least low 900's between clients on the same lan you got something not quite up to snuff.

          C:\tools\iperf3.6_64bit>iperf3.exe -c 192.168.9.9
          warning: Ignoring nonsense TCP MSS 0
          Connecting to host 192.168.9.9, port 5201
          [  5] local 192.168.9.100 port 63702 connected to 192.168.9.9 port 5201
          [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
          [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec   114 MBytes   956 Mbits/sec
          [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec   113 MBytes   947 Mbits/sec
          [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   112 MBytes   936 Mbits/sec
          [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   113 MBytes   948 Mbits/sec
          [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   113 MBytes   948 Mbits/sec
          [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   113 MBytes   949 Mbits/sec
          [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   113 MBytes   950 Mbits/sec
          [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   113 MBytes   949 Mbits/sec
          [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   112 MBytes   942 Mbits/sec
          [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   113 MBytes   950 Mbits/sec
          - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
          [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
          [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   948 Mbits/sec                  sender
          [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   947 Mbits/sec                  receiver
          
          iperf Done.
          

          Test from to OLD pos N40L box...

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            Harvy66
            last edited by

            A rule of thumb is dual socket is sub-optimal for firewalls. Inter-socket communications can dramatically increase latency if the CPU processing the interrupt is not the same CPU that the NIC is attached to.

            You say 2% cpu usage, but network traffic cannot be perfectly load balanced across all cores. 2% cpu with 24 threads is the same as 50% of a single core, which could cause poor performance. Like saying you have 24 people building a house and wondering why it's going to slowly when you have 23 people sitting around and an over-worked 24th.

            If you can, disable hyper-threading, see if that helps, and preferably pin the interrupts for your NICs to the socket "closest" to them.

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              Superfish1000
              last edited by Superfish1000

              The LAN to LAN results I'm not worried about. My desktop seems to be getting lower results than I would like and the Ubuntu VM is a VM with a paravirtualized NIC. I don't expect it to hit full speed because the 1gbps NIC is being shared by the hypervisor, and two active VMs. That being said, it's getting a better speed than my desktop when testing the firewall.
              I could fire up some other servers as well but it didn't make sense to me to test the network switch because I have been getting the same poor speed to the firewall since I installed it, originally with an AT9924-T as my main switch and now a Quanta LB4M.

              @Harvy66 I know how single vs multi thread works. And I get what you're saying. I'll straight up remove the second CPU if upu think it will help but it's been this way since I had a single X5550. I upgraded them to L5640s to get more threads and lower wattage. If you look at my original comment you'll see my htop reading. No single thread was having any real load. I'll disable HT and test it again.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                I'd be amazed if that was causing the sort of throttling you're seeing. But a two interface bare bones config test would prove it.

                Steve

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                  Superfish1000
                  last edited by Superfish1000

                  Tell ya what. I've got a fresh SSD. I'll load up a totally bone stock default install tonight and I'll run some tests.

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                    Superfish1000
                    last edited by Superfish1000

                    1_1539843691778_Fresh Instal ZFS.jpg 0_1539843691777_Fresh Instal UFS.jpg

                    Completely fresh install, updated to 2.4.4 (whatever is current at this moment) pkg install iperf3, iperf3 -s

                    Connected directly from LAN to my Toughbook's NIC.

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                      Superfish1000
                      last edited by

                      So after some more testing I think the issue may lie with the Intel NIC. At the recommendation of a friend I installed IPFire to test it's performance and fought with it for several hours. The iperf tests I was getting were similar but seemed reversed speed wise. Don't remember exactly. It's Nearly 6AM now.

                      Since the results looked way too similar I tried using a dual Broadcom NIC which oddly refused to get a public IP but handled LAN fine. So I used the onboard NIC as WAN and the Broadcom NIC as LAN. This time the iperf test hit the high 800s to 900s. I haven't yet duplicated this test with Pfsense to confirm it has the same behavior, but I have a feeling this is the answer. Looks like I'll be finding a newer NIC to test. I'll update again when I conduct more tests.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        That does seem suspect.

                        The filesystem type should make no difference at all in that test. iperf doesn't read or write from disk. But good to try I guess.

                        Steve

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                          Superfish1000 @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 Yeah I figured. Just thought since it's not exactly the standard I may as well test it. ZFS also has higher CPU and RAM overhead unless I'm mistaken.

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