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    • emammadovE
      emammadov
      last edited by emammadov

      Hello,

      I am using pfsense 2.4.4. We have a problem. Pfsense doesn't block requests from source ip address when "Destination" is selected as "WAN Address in WAN rules".

      For example:
      Action Block:
      Interface: WAN
      Address Family: IPv4
      Protocol: TCP
      Source: XX:XX:XX:XX
      Destination: WAN Address

      Pfsense can only block it when Destination is selected "Any". However I have used pfsense 2.4.3p1 and I have used Destination as WAN Address, and it worked well. But in 2.4.4 version this function doesn't work. I think this is bug and it makes WAN Address in Destination meaningless.

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        Then you are doing something wrong. How are you testing?

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        • emammadovE
          emammadov
          last edited by emammadov

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          • GrimsonG
            Grimson Banned @emammadov
            last edited by

            @emammadov said in pfsense doesn't block port on wan:

            For example, I crate a new nat rule, source address (invert match) xx:xx:xx:xx and destination destination "wan address", Redirect target IP (192.168.1.2), Redirect target port - 80 and save. In Rules / Wan, I choose Action "Block".
            I then begin to open webpage from different ip address and it opens. However if I change Destination address to "Any", it blocks.

            Well if you use NAT to rewrite the destination address then it's obviously no longer your WAN address when the rules get evaluated.

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            • emammadovE
              emammadov
              last edited by

              1. For example, I crate a new nat rule, source address (invert match) xx:xx:xx:xx and destination destination "wan address", Redirect target IP (192.168.1.2), Redirect target port - 80 and save. In Rules / Wan, I choose Action "Block".
                I then begin to open webpage from different ip address and it opens. However if I change Destination address to "Any", it blocks.

              2. have an Alias and it contains some ip addresses. I create a new rule in WAN, and choose my alias as source address and destination "WAN Address": and action block and save. I lift this rule to the top of page and save. It don't block requests from these ip addresses though.

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                Post your entire WAN rule set and tell us exactly what you are doing to test it.

                I just tested this and your original assertion (that block rules to WAN address do not work) is incorrect. It works fine.

                It is highly unlikely that you will discover a "bug" in port forwarding or the implementation of pf. It is almost certainly a misunderstanding or misconfiguration.

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                • emammadovE
                  emammadov
                  last edited by emammadov

                  Firewall / NAT / Port Forward

                  0_1540150895224_1.png

                  For example, I created a new NAT rule.
                  Destination port range: 3389
                  Redirect target IP: 192.168.2.82
                  Redirect target port: 3389
                  Save

                  Firewal / lRules / WAN
                  I can access this server from everywhere. Then I create a new WAN rule:
                  Action Block
                  Source address: 5.191.18.8
                  Destination: WAN address
                  Save

                  0_1540151166381_2.png

                  I lift this rule above the automatic created nat rule. Save. Eventually it should block access from this ip addres, but it doesn't block. If I choose "Any" in Destionation, then it blockes requests from this ip addres.

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by Derelict

                    Nope. NAT has already happened before the firewall rules are consulted.

                    Block source 5.191.18.8 to destination 192.168.2.82 port 3389

                    If you were to, say, ping WAN Address from 5.191.18.8 with that existing configuration you will see that traffic blocked in the firewall logs because that traffic does not match the NAT so NAT is not performed and Destination WAN Address will match.

                    Destination Any matches 192.168.2.82 as well as WAN Address so the traffic is blocked even though NAT has happened first.

                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    • emammadovE
                      emammadov
                      last edited by

                      I can show you exactly when I give teamviewer id to you. Do you have a teamviewer program in your computer?

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        I just explained it all.

                        No, I won't teamviewer into your computer.

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                        • emammadovE
                          emammadov
                          last edited by emammadov

                          What I mean is: I have an Alias that should be blocked by pfsense.

                          In WAN rules, Alias is in the top of page, above all the rules. I have chosen to block all requests from this Alias. Destination address is "WAN Address". It doesn't block requests from this Alias. But if I choose "Any" in Destination, then it blocks all requests from this Alias. That's what I mean. Because I have used this rule in 2.4.3p1 and it used to work. Please do the same steps in your pfsense and you will see what I mean.

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            I explained exactly what is going on based on what you have posted.

                            I cannot explain to you that which is not shown. You are posting rules/screen shots for one thing, getting a complete explanation, then saying something else isn't working.

                            Does the table in Diagnostics > Tables contain the IP addresses you expect to be blocked?

                            Please show everything about that alias and the rules in question.

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            • emammadovE
                              emammadov
                              last edited by

                              Today I will have a screen recorder and will attach the link here for your review.

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                last edited by

                                Just post the rule sets, the contents of the alias, and what you think should be happening. Not going to watch movies.

                                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                • emammadovE
                                  emammadov
                                  last edited by emammadov

                                  Firewall / Rules / WAN Destionation is "any"
                                  0_1540205789571_1.jpg

                                  Alias
                                  0_1540205813433_2.jpg

                                  Firewall / NAT / Port Forward
                                  0_1540205862192_3.jpg

                                  Firewall / Rules / WAN
                                  0_1540205888101_4.jpg

                                  Port check
                                  0_1540206038237_5.jpg

                                  Firewall / Rules / WAN Destionation is "WAN Address"
                                  0_1540206083476_6.jpg

                                  0_1540206105305_7.jpg

                                  Port check
                                  0_1540206120514_8.jpg

                                  When Destination in WAN Rules is "any", pfsense blocks, but if Destionation is "WAN Address", pfsense doesn't block.

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                                  • GrimsonG
                                    Grimson Banned @emammadov
                                    last edited by

                                    @emammadov said in pfsense doesn't block port on wan:

                                    When Destination in WAN Rules is "any", pfsense blocks, but if Destionation is "WAN Address", pfsense doesn't block.

                                    That is, as already explained above, because the NAT port forward has already changed the destination address.

                                    Btw. opening RDP to the WAN is plain stupid, use a VPN for remote administration.

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                                    • emammadovE
                                      emammadov @Grimson
                                      last edited by emammadov

                                      @grimson But it has been worked in 2.4.3p1 version.

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        No it didn't - atleast not the way you think it was..

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                                        • emammadovE
                                          emammadov
                                          last edited by

                                          Then, you mean, if I want to block source ip, I have to choose "any" in Destination address and if I allow source ip to my pfsense, then i have to choose "WAN Address" in Destination address, right?

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            Post your rules HOW they are set, and what is not happening.. Lan rules have ZERO to on what happens inbound to the WAN..

                                            Your running pfblocker - and you have rules in floating that block traffic.. If so then they could be blocking access to your port forward..

                                            Unless you are using a VIP address on your wan, port forward will always be to wan address - which is the default. It will auto create the firewall rule for you by default. If you to limit to a specific alias as source that has zero to do with the dest address and can be be used in your port forward rule.

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