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    • emammadovE
      emammadov
      last edited by emammadov

      Firewall / NAT / Port Forward

      0_1540150895224_1.png

      For example, I created a new NAT rule.
      Destination port range: 3389
      Redirect target IP: 192.168.2.82
      Redirect target port: 3389
      Save

      Firewal / lRules / WAN
      I can access this server from everywhere. Then I create a new WAN rule:
      Action Block
      Source address: 5.191.18.8
      Destination: WAN address
      Save

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      I lift this rule above the automatic created nat rule. Save. Eventually it should block access from this ip addres, but it doesn't block. If I choose "Any" in Destionation, then it blockes requests from this ip addres.

      Elvin

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by Derelict

        Nope. NAT has already happened before the firewall rules are consulted.

        Block source 5.191.18.8 to destination 192.168.2.82 port 3389

        If you were to, say, ping WAN Address from 5.191.18.8 with that existing configuration you will see that traffic blocked in the firewall logs because that traffic does not match the NAT so NAT is not performed and Destination WAN Address will match.

        Destination Any matches 192.168.2.82 as well as WAN Address so the traffic is blocked even though NAT has happened first.

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        • emammadovE
          emammadov
          last edited by

          I can show you exactly when I give teamviewer id to you. Do you have a teamviewer program in your computer?

          Elvin

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            I just explained it all.

            No, I won't teamviewer into your computer.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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            • emammadovE
              emammadov
              last edited by emammadov

              What I mean is: I have an Alias that should be blocked by pfsense.

              In WAN rules, Alias is in the top of page, above all the rules. I have chosen to block all requests from this Alias. Destination address is "WAN Address". It doesn't block requests from this Alias. But if I choose "Any" in Destination, then it blocks all requests from this Alias. That's what I mean. Because I have used this rule in 2.4.3p1 and it used to work. Please do the same steps in your pfsense and you will see what I mean.

              Elvin

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                I explained exactly what is going on based on what you have posted.

                I cannot explain to you that which is not shown. You are posting rules/screen shots for one thing, getting a complete explanation, then saying something else isn't working.

                Does the table in Diagnostics > Tables contain the IP addresses you expect to be blocked?

                Please show everything about that alias and the rules in question.

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                • emammadovE
                  emammadov
                  last edited by

                  Today I will have a screen recorder and will attach the link here for your review.

                  Elvin

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    Just post the rule sets, the contents of the alias, and what you think should be happening. Not going to watch movies.

                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    • emammadovE
                      emammadov
                      last edited by emammadov

                      Firewall / Rules / WAN Destionation is "any"
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                      Alias
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                      Firewall / NAT / Port Forward
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                      Firewall / Rules / WAN
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                      Port check
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                      Firewall / Rules / WAN Destionation is "WAN Address"
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                      0_1540206105305_7.jpg

                      Port check
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                      When Destination in WAN Rules is "any", pfsense blocks, but if Destionation is "WAN Address", pfsense doesn't block.

                      Elvin

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                      • GrimsonG
                        Grimson Banned @emammadov
                        last edited by

                        @emammadov said in pfsense doesn't block port on wan:

                        When Destination in WAN Rules is "any", pfsense blocks, but if Destionation is "WAN Address", pfsense doesn't block.

                        That is, as already explained above, because the NAT port forward has already changed the destination address.

                        Btw. opening RDP to the WAN is plain stupid, use a VPN for remote administration.

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                        • emammadovE
                          emammadov @Grimson
                          last edited by emammadov

                          @grimson But it has been worked in 2.4.3p1 version.

                          Elvin

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            No it didn't - atleast not the way you think it was..

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                            • emammadovE
                              emammadov
                              last edited by

                              Then, you mean, if I want to block source ip, I have to choose "any" in Destination address and if I allow source ip to my pfsense, then i have to choose "WAN Address" in Destination address, right?

                              Elvin

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                Post your rules HOW they are set, and what is not happening.. Lan rules have ZERO to on what happens inbound to the WAN..

                                Your running pfblocker - and you have rules in floating that block traffic.. If so then they could be blocking access to your port forward..

                                Unless you are using a VIP address on your wan, port forward will always be to wan address - which is the default. It will auto create the firewall rule for you by default. If you to limit to a specific alias as source that has zero to do with the dest address and can be be used in your port forward rule.

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                                • emammadovE
                                  emammadov
                                  last edited by emammadov

                                  I have sent you private message. By the way, I am using pfblocker, but Action in pfblocker is "Alias Native". I don't use floating rules.

                                  Elvin

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    Dude I am not going to watch a freaking movie.. You scrolling around your rules makes it IMPOSSIBLE to see what might or might not be wrong.

                                    Its this simple post your port forward, post your wan rules. Post your floating rules. (if nothing in there - still post them).. State what doesn't work.
                                    https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/nat/port-forward-troubleshooting.html

                                    Just because your port test says not open doesn't mean the port forward didn't work btw. Maybe your client not listening or sending back RST because it doesn't allow rdp from IP other than its local lan, etc.. Run through the troubleshooting guide..

                                    Port forwarding to 3389 is this simple.

                                    0_1540232262788_portforward.png

                                    Once I remove the rule - bam its BLOCKED!! You have to kill any open states that might exist..

                                    0_1540232625664_blocked.png

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                                    • emammadovE
                                      emammadov
                                      last edited by

                                      You approached. Now create a rule on wan interface, select block in action, add a public ip address you know to the source, choose "wan address " in destination, save and drag it to the above of the rule you created for rdp. You will see that ip addresses in source still can access your server via rdp, but if you select "any" in destination in the rule of wan address, pfsense will block the traffic from that public ip address.

                                      Elvin

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        Man. NAT HAPPENS BEFORE FIREWALL RULES ARE EVALUATED! WAN ADDRESS WILL NOT MATCH AS A DESTINATION ADDRESS FOR TRAFFIC MATCHING THE PORT FORWARD! THE DESTINATION ADDRESS HAS BEEN TRANSLATED TO THE SERVER ADDRESS!

                                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          As Derelict has been trying to tell you for this whole thread. Now create your firewall rule with dest of your IP of your nat, ie 192.168.x.x

                                          Put that above your rule that allows it.. And that IP would be blocked.

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