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    NetGear(s) in AP Mode will not communicate on different LANs (Resolved)

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    • Z
      z71prix
      last edited by

      Thank you, very strange I cannot talk to the routers (AP Mode) from different LANs and it works fine for the LAN it's connected too?

      Anyone else with any ideas or experiences?

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        Napsterbater @z71prix
        last edited by

        @z71prix do the APs have correct gateway/default route set?

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          Yeah if the device doesn't have a gateway then no you wouldn't be able to talk to from another network... Without source natting the traffic to look like its on the same lan as the device without a gateway.

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            z71prix
            last edited by

            Both routers are setup in default AP mode. The gateways are in the pictures below, looks like gateway received from each LAN on pfsense.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              Then it could be issue with the netgear just not wanting to allow remote access to its gui... Look to see if you can enable remote admin.

              If not since you say it works when you access it from device on that network.. Source nat it so traffic from your remote IP looks like its on that vlan... This is done in the outbound nat tab picking the interface the AP is on, vs the WAN interface.

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                z71prix
                last edited by

                Hello John,

                Remote on the routers are unavailable.
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                I went to NAT Outbound and changed below to LAN1 and LAN2 is this what you were referring too? If so still no communication to the router APs?

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  Dude your natting everything your VPN.. That is most likely where your problem is!!

                  Why would you not be in hybrid mode if your using a vpn?

                  And you would want to setup destination on when to source nat the traffic.

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                    z71prix
                    last edited by

                    John,

                    I followed instructions from someone that setup NordVPN, based on that are where these settings came from. LOL

                    I want every device on LAN1 to go through VPN. LAN2 I want every device to go though WAN

                    Does this look correct now based on what I described above? If so still not working.

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by Derelict

                      You would probably want to NAT source any or source from an alias with RFC1918. At a minimum you want to NAT from LAN1 sources outbound on LAN2 and LAN2 sources out of LAN1. You also probably want to limit the NAT to just the destination of the APs.

                      And, yes, you probably want to use Hybrid NAT mode and let it do the heavy lifting with you only adding the LAN1 and LAN2 rules. (Yeah, that's better in Hybrid mode.)

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                        z71prix
                        last edited by z71prix

                        I cleaned up NAT and using Hybrid
                        0_1548531473621_13.PNG

                        No VPN internet now on LAN1?

                        LAN2 internet from WAN is ok.

                        LAN1 Rules
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                        I'm not sure how to setup an alisas for RFC1918, can you provide guidance? I'm so confused now.

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                        • RicoR
                          Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                          last edited by Rico

                          Navigate to Firewall > Aliases:
                          Create an alias for the RFC1918 network ranges. Call it private_networks and include the following ranges:

                          • 10.0.0.0/8
                          • 172.16.0.0/12
                          • 192.168.0.0/16

                          -Rico

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                            z71prix
                            last edited by

                            Hello Rico,

                            Thank you for the instructions, I did make a small change due to my LANs IP addresses. correct?

                            Internet works on LAN2 however still not working on LAN1 VPN internet?

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                              z71prix
                              last edited by

                              Got the VPN internet back on LAN1 by adding to NAT? Does this look correct?

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                last edited by

                                Why did you check static port on the LAN1 and LAN2 NAT rules. Nobody told you to do that.

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                                  z71prix
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello Derelict,

                                  pfsense defaulted to static. LOL now it's corrected.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    And does it work? Sniff on lan2 interface when trying to talk to lan2 AP from lan 1... Is the source IP your Lan2 interface IP.. Does the AP answer?

                                    If works really no reason to sniff - but if not working they validate that pfsense is sending with source IP changed..

                                    And NO pfsense does not default to static
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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by Derelict

                                      The only way I can see it behaving like you thought static port was the default is if you used the copy icon on one of the existing static port NAT rules for ISAKMP. Which looks to be the case baseed on the rule description. :)

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                                      • Z
                                        z71prix
                                        last edited by

                                        John,

                                        Still not working? What do you mean to sniff?

                                        Correct, I copied the rule and it was checked. Sorry for the false information, thanks for the correction.

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @z71prix
                                          last edited by

                                          @z71prix So you are trying to connect from a host on LAN2 to an AP on LAN1 (10.1.10.104).

                                          What are the firewall rules on the LAN2 interface?

                                          Can you ping the AP instead of trying to connect to it?

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                                          • Z
                                            z71prix
                                            last edited by

                                            Derelict,

                                            I'm on LAN1 now and pinged router AP on LAN2 ok, however cannot connect on web interface still.
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                                            Rules on LAN2
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                                            Rules on LAN1
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                                            thank you

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