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      Larrikin @dugeem
      last edited by Larrikin

      @dugeem Thanks for looking at this. I see no IPv6 traffic in my logs being dropped, and I've read that rules for IPv6 are auto created and no manual rules are required.

      According to johnpoz "The icmpv6 rules that are required for IPv6 to work are allowed but hidden, just like dhcp is when you enable dhcp.. There is no need to worry about setting rules to allow the required stuff for IPv6 to function."

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        Larrikin
        last edited by

        @Derelict Any ideas on this one? Basically pfsense won't accept Telstra's neighbor solicitation resulting in IPv6 not working on Australia's largest ISP. Other third party routers are working - just not pfsense. I have posted a heap of info above to help troubleshoot.

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          Larrikin
          last edited by

          @johnpoz Same thing - if you've got any ideas on this one? Ta.

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by Derelict

            Set the DHCPv6 Debug Log flag on the WAN, and post the WHOLE DHCP logs filtering on command dhcp6c.

            Post a screen shot of your Interfaces > WAN especially the DHCP6 section, not a textual representation.

            You might also want to packet capture on WAN for DHCP6 traffic and post that capture file, not some textual representation of the same. dhcp6 traffic should be on UDP port 547.

            Are they supposed to be delegating a /64, /60, /56, or /48?

            What is the exact guidance Telstra gives for configuring your own DHCP6 router?

            Since the typical settings don't work you need to find whatever secret sauce they require. You might also consider packet capturing a device that does work if Telstra can't tell you what they require.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              Larrikin @Derelict
              last edited by Larrikin

              @derelict

              I'll do this over multiple posts.

              DHCP logs with debug on:

              Feb 27 03:12:41 dhcp6c 52296 reset a timer on em0, state=SOLICIT, timeo=6, retrans=64469
              Feb 27 03:12:41 dhcp6c 52296 send solicit to ff02::1:2%em0
              Feb 27 03:12:41 dhcp6c 52296 set IA_PD
              Feb 27 03:12:41 dhcp6c 52296 set IA_PD prefix
              Feb 27 03:12:41 dhcp6c 52296 set option request (len 4)
              Feb 27 03:12:41 dhcp6c 52296 set elapsed time (len 2)
              Feb 27 03:12:41 dhcp6c 52296 set identity association
              Feb 27 03:12:41 dhcp6c 52296 set client ID (len 14)
              Feb 27 03:12:41 dhcp6c 52296 Sending Solicit
              Feb 27 03:12:09 dhcp6c 52296 reset a timer on em0, state=SOLICIT, timeo=5, retrans=31928
              Feb 27 03:12:09 dhcp6c 52296 send solicit to ff02::1:2%em0
              Feb 27 03:12:09 dhcp6c 52296 set IA_PD
              Feb 27 03:12:09 dhcp6c 52296 set IA_PD prefix
              Feb 27 03:12:09 dhcp6c 52296 set option request (len 4)
              Feb 27 03:12:09 dhcp6c 52296 set elapsed time (len 2)
              Feb 27 03:12:09 dhcp6c 52296 set identity association
              Feb 27 03:12:09 dhcp6c 52296 set client ID (len 14)
              Feb 27 03:12:09 dhcp6c 52296 Sending Solicit
              Feb 27 03:11:53 dhcp6c 52296 reset a timer on em0, state=SOLICIT, timeo=4, retrans=16326
              Feb 27 03:11:53 dhcp6c 52296 send solicit to ff02::1:2%em0
              Feb 27 03:11:53 dhcp6c 52296 set IA_PD
              Feb 27 03:11:53 dhcp6c 52296 set IA_PD prefix
              Feb 27 03:11:53 dhcp6c 52296 set option request (len 4)
              Feb 27 03:11:53 dhcp6c 52296 set elapsed time (len 2)
              Feb 27 03:11:53 dhcp6c 52296 set identity association
              Feb 27 03:11:53 dhcp6c 52296 set client ID (len 14)
              Feb 27 03:11:53 dhcp6c 52296 Sending Solicit

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              @derelict said in IPv6 Native with Telstra, Australia:

              Ugh. Yes they do. Look at the packet capture settings again.

              To avoid any confusion, I have even simplified my packet capture settings. here they are:

              0_1551242127112_Screen Shot 2019-02-27 at 3.35.16 pm.png

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                Larrikin @Derelict
                last edited by Larrikin

                @derelict

                Here is the total information I have received from Telstra to date.

                Telstra uses Ipv6 PD /56 via dhcpv6.
                This is Native Ipv6 in a dual ipv4/ipv6 stack enviroment, no tunnel broker or 6rd.
                Telstra's supported router uses DHCPv6 and get a PD (prefix delegation) back, it will then assign the addresses to LAN clients.
                This means while the Telstra router may show it doesn't have a ipv6 address, It's still handing out PD ipv6 addresses to clients.

                I can see it sending Ipv6 DHCPv6

                13:30:59.553687 In
                Juniper PCAP Flags [no-L2, In]
                -----original packet-----
                PFE proto 6 (ipv6): (hlim 1, next-header: UDP (17), length: 146) fe80::20c:29ff:fe05:a3a1.dhcpv6-server > ff02::1:2.dhcpv6-server: [udp sum ok] dhcp6 Relay-forward

                It’s also unable to establish Ipv6 neighbours which I suspect is a reason why it’s not functioning correctly

                13:31:01.106029 In
                Juniper PCAP Flags [no-L2, In]
                -----original packet-----
                PFE proto 6 (ipv6): (hlim 255, next-header: ICMPv6 (58), length: 32) fe80::20c:29ff:fe05:a3a1 > ff02::1:ff2f:893: [icmp6 sum ok] ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, length 32, who has fe80::4e16:fcff:fe2f:893
                source link-address option (1), length 8 (1): 00:0c:29:05:a3:a1
                0x0000: 000c 2905 a3a1

                13:31:02.073018 Out
                Juniper PCAP Flags [no-L2]
                -----original packet-----
                PFE proto 6 (ipv6): (class 0xc0, hlim 255, next-header: ICMPv6 (58), length: 32) 2001:8003:0:bdf:f0:3:9:0 > ff02::1:ff05:a3a1: [icmp6 sum ok] ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, length 32, who has fe80::20c:29ff:fe05:a3a1
                source link-address option (1), length 8 (1): 4c:16:fc:2f:08:93
                0x0000: 4c16 fc2f 0893

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  What's with all that advanced configuration? Especially setting LAN as the PD interface. Is that you stabbing in the dark with your fingers crossed?

                  Feb 26 08:17:55 	dhcp6c 	79587 	reset a timer on igb1, state=INIT, timeo=0, retrans=891
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	Sending Solicit
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	a new XID (781bad) is generated
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set client ID (len 14)
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set identity association
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set elapsed time (len 2)
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set option request (len 4)
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set IA_PD prefix
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set IA_PD
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	send solicit to ff02::1:2%igb1
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	reset a timer on igb1, state=SOLICIT, timeo=0, retrans=1091
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	receive advertise from fe80::2e86:d2ff:fe89:2019%igb1 on igb1
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option client ID, len 14
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	DUID: 00:ff:ee:dd:cc:09:0f:68:00:08:a2:0a:59:41
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option server ID, len 14
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	DUID: 00:01:00:01:55:f6:d0:f4:f8:bc:12:3e:b6:9c
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option DNS, len 32
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option identity association, len 40
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	IA_NA: ID=0, T1=43200, T2=69120
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option IA address, len 24
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	IA_NA address: 2600:aaaa:bbbb:1c00:4417:7125:99fd:24cb pltime=86400 vltime=86400
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option IA_PD, len 41
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	IA_PD: ID=0, T1=43200, T2=69120
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option IA_PD prefix, len 25
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	IA_PD prefix: 2600:aaaa:ccc:ab00::/56 pltime=86400 vltime=86400
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	server ID: 00:01:00:01:55:f6:d0:f4:f8:bc:12:3e:b6:9c, pref=-1
                  Feb 26 08:17:56 	dhcp6c 	79587 	reset timer for igb1 to 0.973168
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	picked a server (ID: 00:01:00:01:55:f6:d0:f4:f8:bc:12:3e:b6:9c)
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	Sending Request
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	a new XID (804c2e) is generated
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set client ID (len 14)
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set server ID (len 14)
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set IA address
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set identity association
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set elapsed time (len 2)
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set option request (len 4)
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set IA_PD prefix
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	set IA_PD
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	send request to ff02::1:2%igb1
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	reset a timer on igb1, state=REQUEST, timeo=0, retrans=909
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	receive reply from fe80::2e86:d2ff:fe89:2019%igb1 on igb1
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option client ID, len 14
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	DUID: 00:ff:ee:dd:cc:09:0f:68:00:08:a2:0a:59:41
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option server ID, len 14
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	DUID: 00:01:00:01:55:f6:d0:f4:f8:bc:12:3e:b6:9c
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option DNS, len 32
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option identity association, len 46
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	IA_NA: ID=0, T1=43200, T2=69120
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option status code, len 2
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	status code: success
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option IA address, len 24
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	IA_NA address: 2600:aaaa:bbbb:1c00:4417:7125:99fd:24cb pltime=86400 vltime=86400
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option IA_PD, len 47
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	IA_PD: ID=0, T1=43200, T2=69120
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option status code, len 2
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	status code: success
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	get DHCP option IA_PD prefix, len 25
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	IA_PD prefix: 2600:aaaa:ccc:ab00::/56 pltime=86400 vltime=86400
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	dhcp6c Received REQUEST
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	nameserver[0] 2001:578:3f::30
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	nameserver[1] 2001:578:3f:1::30
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	make an IA: PD-0
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	status code for PD-0: success
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	create a prefix 2600:aaaa:ccc:ab00::/56 pltime=86400, vltime=86400
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	add an address 2600:aaaa:ccc:ab01:208:a2ff:fe0a:593f/64 on lagg0.223
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	add an address 2600:aaaa:ccc:ab02:208:a2ff:fe0a:593f/64 on lagg0.999
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	add an address 2600:aaaa:ccc:ab03:208:a2ff:fe0a:593f/64 on lagg0.1003
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	add an address 2600:aaaa:ccc:ab10:208:a2ff:fe0a:593f/64 on lagg0.1004
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	add an address 2600:aaaa:ccc:ab04:208:a2ff:fe0a:593f/64 on lagg0.224
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	make an IA: NA-0
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	status code for NA-0: success
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	create an address 2600:aaaa:bbbb:1c00:4417:7125:99fd:24cb pltime=86400, vltime=11447309925244555648
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	add an address 2600:aaaa:bbbb:1c00:4417:7125:99fd:24cb/128 on igb1
                  Feb 26 08:17:57 	dhcp6c 	79587 	executes /var/etc/dhcp6c_wan_script.sh
                  Feb 26 08:19:06 	dhcp6c 		dhcp6c REQUEST on igb1 - running rc.newwanipv6
                  Feb 26 08:19:06 	dhcp6c 	79587 	script "/var/etc/dhcp6c_wan_script.sh" terminated
                  Feb 26 08:19:06 	dhcp6c 	79587 	removing an event on igb1, state=REQUEST
                  Feb 26 08:19:06 	dhcp6c 	79587 	removing server (ID: 00:01:00:01:55:f6:d0:f4:f8:bc:12:3e:b6:9c)
                  Feb 26 08:19:06 	dhcp6c 	79587 	got an expected reply, sleeping.
                  

                  0_1551198919669_Screen Shot 2019-02-26 at 8.34.49 AM.png

                  And if I do check advanced configuration to view it:

                  0_1551198941112_Screen Shot 2019-02-26 at 8.35.05 AM.png

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    Larrikin @Derelict
                    last edited by

                    @derelict 0_1551198974121_packetcapture-2.cap.zip

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                      Larrikin @Derelict
                      last edited by Larrikin

                      @derelict said in IPv6 Native with Telstra, Australia:

                      What's with all that advanced configuration? Especially setting LAN as the PD interface. Is that you stabbing in the dark with your fingers crossed?

                      It's me following other ISP implementations where people have said its close to how Telstra work. That said, you are right - its me stabbing in the dark trying to get it to work. I am reading info on how other 3rd party routers have got theirs up and running with Telstra and trying to translate that into pfsense. But long and short - its flying darts blind folded.

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        I would get rid of all of that and start over with basically what I have there and start the information gathering and pasting evolution over again.

                        No need to fly blind with actual information from the ISP and an ISP willing to help.

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          Larrikin
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                          @Derelict

                          So I now have the config you posted above. Results below. I would also say the ISP doesn't know a thing about pfsense, so not sure how much help they will be to us. That said, the guy does respond to me if I have specific questions.

                          Here is the debug DHCP log with the config you suggested above:

                          Feb 27 03:43:11 dhcp6c 17859 reset a timer on em0, state=SOLICIT, timeo=3, retrans=8065
                          Feb 27 03:43:11 dhcp6c 17859 send solicit to ff02::1:2%em0
                          Feb 27 03:43:11 dhcp6c 17859 set IA_PD
                          Feb 27 03:43:11 dhcp6c 17859 set IA_PD prefix
                          Feb 27 03:43:11 dhcp6c 17859 set option request (len 4)
                          Feb 27 03:43:11 dhcp6c 17859 set elapsed time (len 2)
                          Feb 27 03:43:11 dhcp6c 17859 set identity association
                          Feb 27 03:43:11 dhcp6c 17859 set client ID (len 14)
                          Feb 27 03:43:11 dhcp6c 17859 Sending Solicit

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                            Larrikin @Derelict
                            last edited by

                            @derelict Here is the new packet capture from the settings you told me to implement:

                            0_1551199609614_packetcapture.cap.zip

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                              Larrikin @Derelict
                              last edited by

                              @derelict Interestingly, zero UDP packets in the packet captures. All ICMP neighbor solicitation.

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                                Larrikin @Derelict
                                last edited by

                                @derelict Also, no idea how to packet capture their router doing DHCPv6 negotiation. Their router plugs straight into the IPoE interface and I don't have a hub where I can plug wireshark or anything like that to capture packets. Any ideas welcome on how to achieve that. Their router also has custom firmware so no ability to packet capture off of it. I can check their limited logs, but that's about it. Let me know if you want me to that.

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                                  Larrikin @Derelict
                                  last edited by

                                  @derelict

                                  Here are screen shots of my LAN interface

                                  0_1551201294932_Screen Shot 2019-02-27 at 4.14.19 am.png 0_1551201302072_Screen Shot 2019-02-27 at 4.14.29 am.png

                                  RA:

                                  0_1551201349613_Screen Shot 2019-02-27 at 4.15.34 am.png

                                  Gateway:

                                  0_1551201434158_Screen Shot 2019-02-27 at 4.16.23 am.png

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                                  • DerelictD
                                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                    last edited by

                                    They do not have to know anything about pfSense. They should be able to tell you what is required of ANY dhcp6 client to pull an address and PD. Then we just make pfSense do what they require instead of guessing.

                                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                      Larrikin @Derelict
                                      last edited by Larrikin

                                      @derelict said in IPv6 Native with Telstra, Australia:

                                      They do not have to know anything about pfSense. They should be able to tell you what is required of ANY dhcp6 client to pull an address and PD. Then we just make pfSense do what they require instead of guessing.

                                      What I've given you is everything they have given me when I've asked. I don't think they intend on giving me any more info unless there is a specific question you want me to go back and ask them. They haven't provided me with any further info. I've literally given you exactly what they have given me. They think the issue is to do with neighbor solicitation and pfsense not accepting it.

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                                        Larrikin @Derelict
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                                        @derelict said in IPv6 Native with Telstra, Australia:

                                        They do not have to know anything about pfSense. They should be able to tell you what is required of ANY dhcp6 client to pull an address and PD. Then we just make pfSense do what they require instead of guessing.

                                        So in summary - I'm out of moves. I feel that if this is ever going to get resolved, and we need more info from Telstra, then I would need to ask them specific questions for them to answer (and I don't know what those questions are).

                                        I've asked the general questions like you've already asked me which is "how do they expect a client to get a DHCPv6 PD" and their response was the email above, plus the monitoring of my control plane, and coming back to me saying its a neighbor solicitation issue with pfsense.

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by Derelict

                                          You should absolutely see traffic on WAN on UDP/547

                                          That is Solicit, Advertise, Request, Reply

                                          All I did was start that capture then edit/save Interfaces > WAN

                                          0_1551210796707_screenshot-192.168.223.1-8883-2019.02.26-11-51-55.png

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @Larrikin
                                            last edited by

                                            @larrikin said in IPv6 Native with Telstra, Australia:

                                            I am reading info on how other 3rd party routers have got theirs up and running with Telstra and trying to translate that into pfsense.

                                            Maybe you should post some of those.

                                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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