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      wgentine
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      @kevindd992002 as long as you install 4.9.0.2 or 4.0.24 you get it activated.

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        dugeem @wgentine
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        @wgentine As per link the APU2 system load doesn’t even have to reach 100% for boost mode to cease. AMD internal power control will reduce or disable boost based on multi core activity together with thermal parameters.

        No argument though that it adds useful extra lift to APU2 performance.

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          dugeem @wgentine
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          @wgentine said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

          @kevindd992002 as long as you install 4.9.0.2 or 4.0.24 you get it activated.

          Or wait a few days for forthcoming releases 4.9.0.3 & 4.0.25 which will enable core boost as well as providing the ability to disable it in BIOS.

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            wgentine @dugeem
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            @dugeem fair enough... thermal and power consumption is still priority in a small system with passive cooling.

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              kevindd992002 @dugeem
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              @dugeem said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

              @wgentine said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

              @kevindd992002 as long as you install 4.9.0.2 or 4.0.24 you get it activated.

              Or wait a few days for forthcoming releases 4.9.0.3 & 4.0.25 which will enable core boost as well as providing the ability to disable it in BIOS.

              Well, I already have 4.9.0.2 since two weeks ago so I think I'm good. I'll still wait for 4.9.0.3 main release and update as necessary. My pfsense APU2C4 boxes are for home-use only anyways.

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                Qinn
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                Maybe I've missed, but as far as you know what will be the difference concerning this between 4.9.0.2 and 4.9.0.3?

                Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                  dugeem @Qinn
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                  @qinn All APU2 open firmware source is on github.

                  Release notes for mainline are here ... github PCEngines mainline changelog

                  NB v4.9.0.3 hasn’t been released yet... we have to be patient and allow 3mdeb to go thru their full release cycle

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                    Qinn @dugeem
                    last edited by Qinn

                    @dugeem Thnx for pointing that one out for me, I did not know there were "Unreleased" notes in the change log.

                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                      dugeem
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                      PC Engines / 3mdeb have released new coreboot firmware:

                      • mainline v4.9.0.3 (link https://pcengines.github.io/#mr-20)
                      • legacy v4.0.25 (link https://pcengines.github.io/#lr-17).

                      Both now offer ability in sortbootorder to disable Core Boost (default is enabled).

                      v4.9.0.3 also includes some additonal firmware fixes and support for SMBIOS memory capability types 16 & 17. The command

                      dmidecode -t 16 -t 17
                      

                      now works as expected on APU2 with 4GB.

                      Installed mainline v4.9.0.3 on my test APU2 with no issues.

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                        Qinn
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                        Thanks for the update, I will install it asap.

                        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                          kevindd992002 @dugeem
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                          @dugeem said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                          SMBIOS memory capability types 16 & 17

                          Where does one use "SMBIOS memory capability types 16 & 17"?

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                            dugeem @kevindd992002
                            last edited by dugeem

                            @kevindd992002 For informational purposes only with dmidecode. Arguably this should have already been in the firmware but since it took time for 3mdeb to get ECC working (due to lack of AMD documentation) it probably hasn’t mattered.

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                              cwagz
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                              How does the APU2C4 with the new BIOS compare to a Fitlet2 J3455? Does anyone know the boost clock that the APU will get up to now? Forgive me if I missed this info earlier in the thread.

                              Netgate 6100 MAX

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                                dugeem @cwagz
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                                @cwagz

                                With AMD CPB enabled in latest APU2 BIOS a lightly loaded (i.e. no more than single core active) APU2 CPU will boost from normal 1.0Ghz up to 1.4GHz. In the real world the gain is less - around 20% (see 3mdeb tech notes https://3mdeb.com/firmware/amd-cpu-boost/).

                                The quad core Celeron J3455 CPU has a base frequency of 1.5GHz and boosts to 2.3GHz - this would suggest it should offer ~50% higher performance than the AMD GX-412TC. Benchmarking would be required to confirm this.

                                However before selecting router hardware there are many other considerations apart from just CPU performance. EG. bandwidth, budget, form factor, interfaces, storage etc

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                                  fireodo
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                                  Hi, I made the update on my APU2C0 board to coreboot legacy ver. 4.0.25 and after 2 days everything works fine - the only thing that I can see is that the CPU temperature is slightly lower (4-5°) than before the update (same environment conditions). Maybe it is in context of AMD CPB activation.

                                  Have a fine Weekend,
                                  fireodo

                                  Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                  SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                  pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                  Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                    Veldkornet @fireodo
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                                    @fireodo said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                    Hi, I made the update on my APU2C0 board to coreboot legacy ver. 4.0.25 and after 2 days everything works fine - the only thing that I can see is that the CPU temperature is slightly lower (4-5°) than before the update (same environment conditions). Maybe it is in context of AMD CPB activation.

                                    Have a fine Weekend,
                                    fireodo

                                    Yes, the CPU can now enter C6 idle-state as well when needed which is a deeper power saving state. More power saving = less heat.

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                                      Qinn
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                                      Is it useful to enable PowerD now?

                                      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                        wgentine @Qinn
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                                        @qinn No. CPB is not describe in ACPI so, powerd doesn't know.

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                                          Qinn
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks

                                          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                            Veldkornet
                                            last edited by Veldkornet

                                            Does anyone else use the gwled package for the other 2 lights on the front?

                                            I noticed that it’s using massive amounts of CPU, pushing the load average well above 20. Even disabling doesn’t fix it, only removing the package helps. Below is only a snippet of "px auxw", there are still many more processes of the same.

                                            USER      PID  %CPU %MEM    VSZ    RSS TT  STAT STARTED        TIME COMMAND
                                            root       11 156.5  0.0      0     64  -  RNL  Wed17   16794:28.46 [idle]
                                            root    55074   4.6  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.59 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    57431   4.5  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.60 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    58665   4.5  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.58 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    56863   4.4  0.8  96420  34636  -  R    12:28       0:00.56 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    58037   4.4  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.59 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    51369   4.3  0.9  96304  35948  -  R    12:28       0:00.65 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    52694   4.3  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.60 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    53220   4.3  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.59 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    56211   4.3  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.58 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    57826   4.3  0.9  98468  35212  -  R    12:28       0:00.56 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    58322   4.3  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.58 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    58337   4.3  0.9  98468  35212  -  R    12:28       0:00.56 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    51633   4.1  0.8  96420  34584  -  R    12:28       0:00.56 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    52119   4.1  0.9  96420  35268  -  R    12:28       0:00.57 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    55153   4.1  0.9  98468  35212  -  R    12:28       0:00.55 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    56521   4.1  0.8  98468  35036  -  R    12:28       0:00.54 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    58153   4.1  0.9  98468  35212  -  R    12:28       0:00.54 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    39184   4.0  7.5 339404 308808  -  Ss   22:56      48:49.73 /usr/local/bin/suricata -i igb1 -D -c /usr/local/etc/suricata/s
                                            root    51525   4.0  0.9  96292  35160  -  R    12:28       0:00.58 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            root    57568   4.0  0.9  98468  35200  -  R    12:28       0:00.54 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                            

                                            See here the difference in CPU after removing the package:
                                            0_1552823095743_Capture.PNG

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