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      dugeem @wgentine
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      @wgentine said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

      @kevindd992002 as long as you install 4.9.0.2 or 4.0.24 you get it activated.

      Or wait a few days for forthcoming releases 4.9.0.3 & 4.0.25 which will enable core boost as well as providing the ability to disable it in BIOS.

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        wgentine @dugeem
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        @dugeem fair enough... thermal and power consumption is still priority in a small system with passive cooling.

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          kevindd992002 @dugeem
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          @dugeem said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

          @wgentine said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

          @kevindd992002 as long as you install 4.9.0.2 or 4.0.24 you get it activated.

          Or wait a few days for forthcoming releases 4.9.0.3 & 4.0.25 which will enable core boost as well as providing the ability to disable it in BIOS.

          Well, I already have 4.9.0.2 since two weeks ago so I think I'm good. I'll still wait for 4.9.0.3 main release and update as necessary. My pfsense APU2C4 boxes are for home-use only anyways.

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            Qinn
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            Maybe I've missed, but as far as you know what will be the difference concerning this between 4.9.0.2 and 4.9.0.3?

            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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              dugeem @Qinn
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              @qinn All APU2 open firmware source is on github.

              Release notes for mainline are here ... github PCEngines mainline changelog

              NB v4.9.0.3 hasn’t been released yet... we have to be patient and allow 3mdeb to go thru their full release cycle

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                Qinn @dugeem
                last edited by Qinn

                @dugeem Thnx for pointing that one out for me, I did not know there were "Unreleased" notes in the change log.

                Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                  dugeem
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                  PC Engines / 3mdeb have released new coreboot firmware:

                  • mainline v4.9.0.3 (link https://pcengines.github.io/#mr-20)
                  • legacy v4.0.25 (link https://pcengines.github.io/#lr-17).

                  Both now offer ability in sortbootorder to disable Core Boost (default is enabled).

                  v4.9.0.3 also includes some additonal firmware fixes and support for SMBIOS memory capability types 16 & 17. The command

                  dmidecode -t 16 -t 17
                  

                  now works as expected on APU2 with 4GB.

                  Installed mainline v4.9.0.3 on my test APU2 with no issues.

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                  • QinnQ
                    Qinn
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                    Thanks for the update, I will install it asap.

                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                      kevindd992002 @dugeem
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                      @dugeem said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                      SMBIOS memory capability types 16 & 17

                      Where does one use "SMBIOS memory capability types 16 & 17"?

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                        dugeem @kevindd992002
                        last edited by dugeem

                        @kevindd992002 For informational purposes only with dmidecode. Arguably this should have already been in the firmware but since it took time for 3mdeb to get ECC working (due to lack of AMD documentation) it probably hasn’t mattered.

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                        • cwagzC
                          cwagz
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                          How does the APU2C4 with the new BIOS compare to a Fitlet2 J3455? Does anyone know the boost clock that the APU will get up to now? Forgive me if I missed this info earlier in the thread.

                          Netgate 6100 MAX

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                            dugeem @cwagz
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                            @cwagz

                            With AMD CPB enabled in latest APU2 BIOS a lightly loaded (i.e. no more than single core active) APU2 CPU will boost from normal 1.0Ghz up to 1.4GHz. In the real world the gain is less - around 20% (see 3mdeb tech notes https://3mdeb.com/firmware/amd-cpu-boost/).

                            The quad core Celeron J3455 CPU has a base frequency of 1.5GHz and boosts to 2.3GHz - this would suggest it should offer ~50% higher performance than the AMD GX-412TC. Benchmarking would be required to confirm this.

                            However before selecting router hardware there are many other considerations apart from just CPU performance. EG. bandwidth, budget, form factor, interfaces, storage etc

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                              fireodo
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                              Hi, I made the update on my APU2C0 board to coreboot legacy ver. 4.0.25 and after 2 days everything works fine - the only thing that I can see is that the CPU temperature is slightly lower (4-5°) than before the update (same environment conditions). Maybe it is in context of AMD CPB activation.

                              Have a fine Weekend,
                              fireodo

                              Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                              SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                              pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                              Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                Veldkornet @fireodo
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                                @fireodo said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                Hi, I made the update on my APU2C0 board to coreboot legacy ver. 4.0.25 and after 2 days everything works fine - the only thing that I can see is that the CPU temperature is slightly lower (4-5°) than before the update (same environment conditions). Maybe it is in context of AMD CPB activation.

                                Have a fine Weekend,
                                fireodo

                                Yes, the CPU can now enter C6 idle-state as well when needed which is a deeper power saving state. More power saving = less heat.

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                                  Qinn
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                                  Is it useful to enable PowerD now?

                                  Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                  Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                  Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                    wgentine @Qinn
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                                    @qinn No. CPB is not describe in ACPI so, powerd doesn't know.

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                                      Qinn
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                                      Thanks

                                      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                      • VeldkornetV
                                        Veldkornet
                                        last edited by Veldkornet

                                        Does anyone else use the gwled package for the other 2 lights on the front?

                                        I noticed that it’s using massive amounts of CPU, pushing the load average well above 20. Even disabling doesn’t fix it, only removing the package helps. Below is only a snippet of "px auxw", there are still many more processes of the same.

                                        USER      PID  %CPU %MEM    VSZ    RSS TT  STAT STARTED        TIME COMMAND
                                        root       11 156.5  0.0      0     64  -  RNL  Wed17   16794:28.46 [idle]
                                        root    55074   4.6  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.59 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    57431   4.5  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.60 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    58665   4.5  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.58 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    56863   4.4  0.8  96420  34636  -  R    12:28       0:00.56 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    58037   4.4  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.59 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    51369   4.3  0.9  96304  35948  -  R    12:28       0:00.65 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    52694   4.3  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.60 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    53220   4.3  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.59 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    56211   4.3  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.58 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    57826   4.3  0.9  98468  35212  -  R    12:28       0:00.56 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    58322   4.3  0.9  96292  35144  -  R    12:28       0:00.58 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    58337   4.3  0.9  98468  35212  -  R    12:28       0:00.56 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    51633   4.1  0.8  96420  34584  -  R    12:28       0:00.56 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    52119   4.1  0.9  96420  35268  -  R    12:28       0:00.57 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    55153   4.1  0.9  98468  35212  -  R    12:28       0:00.55 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    56521   4.1  0.8  98468  35036  -  R    12:28       0:00.54 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    58153   4.1  0.9  98468  35212  -  R    12:28       0:00.54 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    39184   4.0  7.5 339404 308808  -  Ss   22:56      48:49.73 /usr/local/bin/suricata -i igb1 -D -c /usr/local/etc/suricata/s
                                        root    51525   4.0  0.9  96292  35160  -  R    12:28       0:00.58 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        root    57568   4.0  0.9  98468  35200  -  R    12:28       0:00.54 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi -q /usr/local/bin/gwled.php
                                        

                                        See here the difference in CPU after removing the package:
                                        0_1552823095743_Capture.PNG

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Hmm, odd. Actual CPU time on those processes is all pretty small though. You see it generating those everytime at boot?

                                          Steve

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                                          • cwagzC
                                            cwagz @wgentine
                                            last edited by

                                            @wgentine said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                            @qinn No. CPB is not describe in ACPI so, powerd doesn't know.

                                            Is it a best practice to disable powerd then?

                                            Netgate 6100 MAX

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