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    • GertjanG Offline
      Gertjan @torisevt
      last edited by Gertjan

      @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

      WAN(dhcp) and LAN(192.168.1.0/24).

      What do you mean ?
      Both WAN and LAN on the 192.168.1.0/24 network ?

      @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

      172.217.0.0

      Keep in mind : hosts on the Internet have no obligation to reply to a ping.

      edit : I just tried (one) 172.217.0.1 : it replies to ICMP.

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        torisevt
        last edited by

        WAN get it's IP from ISP DHCP.
        And LAN uses 192.168.1.0/24 network.

        Sorry if problematic to read

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          torisevt
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          C:\Users\administrator>ping www.google.com

          Ping-isäntä: www.google.com [172.217.21.164] 32 tavua tietoja:
          Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin. (Time out)
          Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
          Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
          Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.

          Ping-tilastot 172.217.21.164:
          Packages: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Loss = 4
          (100% loss),

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          • kiokomanK Offline
            kiokoman LAYER 8
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            pls provide screenshot of rules WAN / LAN of your pfsense

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              torisevt
              last edited by

              WAN rules.png LAN rules.png

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              • johnpozJ Offline
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz

                Do a traceroute to www.google.com. Are you getting past pfsense? Are you using IPS or vpn service?

                Do you have any rule rules in floating?

                Your allow subnet rule? So you have downstream networks of your lan?

                You do understand that allow rule to 172.19/16 is pointless right, since you have any any rule.. Allow subnet rules since your any any rule source is any... vs say lan net.

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                  torisevt @johnpoz
                  last edited by torisevt

                  @johnpoz
                  No rules in floating
                  Subnets are at the other site.
                  I try to fix the previous guys problems.
                  I had to change to gmail.com, because www.google.com IP changed to 216.58.207.228 which works fine.

                  C:\Users\administrator>tracert gmail.com
                  
                  seurataan reitti isäntään gmail.com [172.217.20.37]
                  enintään 30 siirräntävälillä:
                  
                    1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.100.1
                    2     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin. (time out)
                    3     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                    4     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                    5     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                    6     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                    7     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                    8     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                    9     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   10     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   11     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   12     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   13     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   14     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   15     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   16     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   17     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   18     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   19     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   20     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   21     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                   22     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
                  
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                  • johnpozJ Offline
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    And what is this 192.168.100? You stated your pfsense lan is 192.168.1

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                      torisevt @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz
                      Fingers type before I think.
                      We have 192.168.100.0 network at the site.

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                      • johnpozJ Offline
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Ok...So pfsense is 192.168.100.1

                        What does the routing table look like on pfsense? Do a traceroute from pfsense for that 172 IP.

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                          torisevt @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz
                          Traceroute
                          1 * * *
                          2 62.78.124.34 9.949 ms 11.144 ms 9.942 ms
                          3 62.78.107.148 18.192 ms 9.792 ms 9.891 ms
                          4 62.78.107.202 14.443 ms 10.692 ms 9.342 ms
                          5 * * *
                          6 62.78.107.194 17.179 ms 13.994 ms 16.244 ms
                          7 62.78.104.85 28.543 ms
                          62.78.108.37 137.688 ms 14.744 ms
                          8 * 72.14.211.94 13.255 ms *
                          9 * 108.170.254.49 18.219 ms *
                          10 209.85.246.26 17.006 ms
                          72.14.236.4 17.444 ms
                          108.170.232.35 14.894 ms
                          11 172.217.20.37 18.042 ms
                          108.170.232.35 22.542 ms
                          172.217.20.37 15.499 ms

                          ip4 routes.png

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                          • GertjanG Offline
                            Gertjan
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                            For me

                            Microsoft Windows [version 6.1.7601]
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                            C:\Users\Réception-Gauche>ping 172.217.21.164
                            
                            Envoi d'une requête 'Ping'  172.217.21.164 avec 32 octets de données :
                            Réponse de 172.217.21.164 : octets=32 temps=57 ms TTL=45
                            Réponse de 172.217.21.164 : octets=32 temps=57 ms TTL=45
                            Réponse de 172.217.21.164 : octets=32 temps=56 ms TTL=45
                            Réponse de 172.217.21.164 : octets=32 temps=56 ms TTL=45
                            
                            Statistiques Ping pour 172.217.21.164:
                                Paquets : envoyés = 4, reçus = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),
                            Durée approximative des boucles en millisecondes :
                                Minimum = 56ms, Maximum = 57ms, Moyenne = 56ms
                            

                            "Your mileage may vary ...."

                            All this means that "172.217.21.164" want to reply to me (my WAN IP).
                            Not a big issue if ICMP won't come back.

                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                              torisevt @Gertjan
                              last edited by torisevt

                              @Gertjan
                              Me too but not on the other site

                              U:\>ping 172.217.21.164
                              
                              Ping-isäntä: 172.217.21.164 32 tavua tietoja:
                              Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
                              Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
                              Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
                              Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
                              
                              Ping-tilastot 172.217.21.164:
                                  Paketit: Lähetetty = 4, Vastaanotettu = 4, Kadonnut = 0
                                           (0% hävikki),
                              Arvioitu kiertoaika millisekunteina:
                                  Pienin = 7 ms, Suurin = 7 ms, Keskiarvo = 7 ms
                              
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                              • johnpozJ Offline
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

                                7 62.78.104.85 28.543 ms
                                62.78.108.37 137.688 ms 14.744 ms

                                That trace looks odd, are you getting back multiple IPs on the same hop?

                                From your trace looks like your problem is upstream of pfsense.. To prove this too yourself - just sniff on wan of pfsense when you ping that IP... Do you see pfsense send the ping request with its public IP as source.. If you do not get an answer that is on your isp or upstream..

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                                • GertjanG Offline
                                  Gertjan @torisevt
                                  last edited by Gertjan

                                  So, here a ping to "172.217.21.164" replies :
                                  @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

                                  U:>ping 172.217.21.164

                                  Ping-isäntä: 172.217.21.164 32 tavua tietoja:
                                  Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57

                                  Here it doesn't :

                                  @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:
                                  Ping-isäntä: www.google.com [172.217.21.164] 32 tavua tietoja:
                                  Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin. (Time out)

                                  Is that the question : it doesn't work all the times ?

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                    torisevt @Gertjan
                                    last edited by

                                    @Gertjan
                                    It doesn't work when Google change it's sites IP addresses to 172.217.0.0 net

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                                    • johnpozJ Offline
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      He has 2 sites.. Only 1 site is unable to ping that netblock.

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                                      • GertjanG Offline
                                        Gertjan
                                        last edited by

                                        The site with no result (no ICMP returned) uses an upstream router with differnet settings ?
                                        Another ISP ?

                                        Also : "Google" uses firewalls. When some networks (read : ISP clients) ping to much, it would not surprises me that Google throttles ICMP a bit for that network. It's just a free service ;)

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                          torisevt
                                          last edited by

                                          There is a cable modem connected to pfsense that is connected to LAN switch.
                                          No another ISP, unless IPsec VPN between sites?

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                                          • GertjanG Offline
                                            Gertjan @torisevt
                                            last edited by

                                            @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

                                            unless IPsec VPN between sites?

                                            Ah !! Even more factors to check !!
                                            You've got more such details ?

                                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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