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    (SOLVED) Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses

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      torisevt
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      WAN rules.png LAN rules.png

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      • johnpozJ Offline
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        Do a traceroute to www.google.com. Are you getting past pfsense? Are you using IPS or vpn service?

        Do you have any rule rules in floating?

        Your allow subnet rule? So you have downstream networks of your lan?

        You do understand that allow rule to 172.19/16 is pointless right, since you have any any rule.. Allow subnet rules since your any any rule source is any... vs say lan net.

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          torisevt @johnpoz
          last edited by torisevt

          @johnpoz
          No rules in floating
          Subnets are at the other site.
          I try to fix the previous guys problems.
          I had to change to gmail.com, because www.google.com IP changed to 216.58.207.228 which works fine.

          C:\Users\administrator>tracert gmail.com
          
          seurataan reitti isäntään gmail.com [172.217.20.37]
          enintään 30 siirräntävälillä:
          
            1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.100.1
            2     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin. (time out)
            3     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
            4     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
            5     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
            6     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
            7     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
            8     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
            9     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           10     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           11     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           12     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           13     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           14     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           15     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           16     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           17     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           18     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           19     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           20     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           21     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
           22     *        *        *     Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin.
          
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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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            And what is this 192.168.100? You stated your pfsense lan is 192.168.1

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              torisevt @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz
              Fingers type before I think.
              We have 192.168.100.0 network at the site.

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                Ok...So pfsense is 192.168.100.1

                What does the routing table look like on pfsense? Do a traceroute from pfsense for that 172 IP.

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                  torisevt @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz
                  Traceroute
                  1 * * *
                  2 62.78.124.34 9.949 ms 11.144 ms 9.942 ms
                  3 62.78.107.148 18.192 ms 9.792 ms 9.891 ms
                  4 62.78.107.202 14.443 ms 10.692 ms 9.342 ms
                  5 * * *
                  6 62.78.107.194 17.179 ms 13.994 ms 16.244 ms
                  7 62.78.104.85 28.543 ms
                  62.78.108.37 137.688 ms 14.744 ms
                  8 * 72.14.211.94 13.255 ms *
                  9 * 108.170.254.49 18.219 ms *
                  10 209.85.246.26 17.006 ms
                  72.14.236.4 17.444 ms
                  108.170.232.35 14.894 ms
                  11 172.217.20.37 18.042 ms
                  108.170.232.35 22.542 ms
                  172.217.20.37 15.499 ms

                  ip4 routes.png

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                  • GertjanG Offline
                    Gertjan
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                    For me

                    Microsoft Windows [version 6.1.7601]
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                    C:\Users\Réception-Gauche>ping 172.217.21.164
                    
                    Envoi d'une requête 'Ping'  172.217.21.164 avec 32 octets de données :
                    Réponse de 172.217.21.164 : octets=32 temps=57 ms TTL=45
                    Réponse de 172.217.21.164 : octets=32 temps=57 ms TTL=45
                    Réponse de 172.217.21.164 : octets=32 temps=56 ms TTL=45
                    Réponse de 172.217.21.164 : octets=32 temps=56 ms TTL=45
                    
                    Statistiques Ping pour 172.217.21.164:
                        Paquets : envoyés = 4, reçus = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),
                    Durée approximative des boucles en millisecondes :
                        Minimum = 56ms, Maximum = 57ms, Moyenne = 56ms
                    

                    "Your mileage may vary ...."

                    All this means that "172.217.21.164" want to reply to me (my WAN IP).
                    Not a big issue if ICMP won't come back.

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      torisevt @Gertjan
                      last edited by torisevt

                      @Gertjan
                      Me too but not on the other site

                      U:\>ping 172.217.21.164
                      
                      Ping-isäntä: 172.217.21.164 32 tavua tietoja:
                      Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
                      Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
                      Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
                      Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
                      
                      Ping-tilastot 172.217.21.164:
                          Paketit: Lähetetty = 4, Vastaanotettu = 4, Kadonnut = 0
                                   (0% hävikki),
                      Arvioitu kiertoaika millisekunteina:
                          Pienin = 7 ms, Suurin = 7 ms, Keskiarvo = 7 ms
                      
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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

                        7 62.78.104.85 28.543 ms
                        62.78.108.37 137.688 ms 14.744 ms

                        That trace looks odd, are you getting back multiple IPs on the same hop?

                        From your trace looks like your problem is upstream of pfsense.. To prove this too yourself - just sniff on wan of pfsense when you ping that IP... Do you see pfsense send the ping request with its public IP as source.. If you do not get an answer that is on your isp or upstream..

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                        • GertjanG Offline
                          Gertjan @torisevt
                          last edited by Gertjan

                          So, here a ping to "172.217.21.164" replies :
                          @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

                          U:>ping 172.217.21.164

                          Ping-isäntä: 172.217.21.164 32 tavua tietoja:
                          Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57

                          Here it doesn't :

                          @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:
                          Ping-isäntä: www.google.com [172.217.21.164] 32 tavua tietoja:
                          Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin. (Time out)

                          Is that the question : it doesn't work all the times ?

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            torisevt @Gertjan
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                            @Gertjan
                            It doesn't work when Google change it's sites IP addresses to 172.217.0.0 net

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                              He has 2 sites.. Only 1 site is unable to ping that netblock.

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                              • GertjanG Offline
                                Gertjan
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                                The site with no result (no ICMP returned) uses an upstream router with differnet settings ?
                                Another ISP ?

                                Also : "Google" uses firewalls. When some networks (read : ISP clients) ping to much, it would not surprises me that Google throttles ICMP a bit for that network. It's just a free service ;)

                                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                  torisevt
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                                  There is a cable modem connected to pfsense that is connected to LAN switch.
                                  No another ISP, unless IPsec VPN between sites?

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                                    Gertjan @torisevt
                                    last edited by

                                    @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

                                    unless IPsec VPN between sites?

                                    Ah !! Even more factors to check !!
                                    You've got more such details ?

                                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                      torisevt @Gertjan
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                                      @Gertjan
                                      I don't know all the things the previous guy has established.

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        whats the network settings on the ipsec - are you sending that netblock over the ipsec?

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                                          torisevt @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz
                                          Where can I find it?

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                            in the vpn, ipsec section - what is setup on the phase 2? This will have tunnel networks and remote networks and local networks defined.

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