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    (SOLVED) Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses

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      torisevt @Gertjan
      last edited by torisevt

      @Gertjan
      Me too but not on the other site

      U:\>ping 172.217.21.164
      
      Ping-isäntä: 172.217.21.164 32 tavua tietoja:
      Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
      Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
      Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
      Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57
      
      Ping-tilastot 172.217.21.164:
          Paketit: Lähetetty = 4, Vastaanotettu = 4, Kadonnut = 0
                   (0% hävikki),
      Arvioitu kiertoaika millisekunteina:
          Pienin = 7 ms, Suurin = 7 ms, Keskiarvo = 7 ms
      
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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

        7 62.78.104.85 28.543 ms
        62.78.108.37 137.688 ms 14.744 ms

        That trace looks odd, are you getting back multiple IPs on the same hop?

        From your trace looks like your problem is upstream of pfsense.. To prove this too yourself - just sniff on wan of pfsense when you ping that IP... Do you see pfsense send the ping request with its public IP as source.. If you do not get an answer that is on your isp or upstream..

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          Gertjan @torisevt
          last edited by Gertjan

          So, here a ping to "172.217.21.164" replies :
          @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

          U:>ping 172.217.21.164

          Ping-isäntä: 172.217.21.164 32 tavua tietoja:
          Vastaus isännältä 172.217.21.164: tavuja=32 aika=7 ms TTL=57

          Here it doesn't :

          @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:
          Ping-isäntä: www.google.com [172.217.21.164] 32 tavua tietoja:
          Pyyntö aikakatkaistiin. (Time out)

          Is that the question : it doesn't work all the times ?

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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            torisevt @Gertjan
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            @Gertjan
            It doesn't work when Google change it's sites IP addresses to 172.217.0.0 net

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              He has 2 sites.. Only 1 site is unable to ping that netblock.

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                Gertjan
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                The site with no result (no ICMP returned) uses an upstream router with differnet settings ?
                Another ISP ?

                Also : "Google" uses firewalls. When some networks (read : ISP clients) ping to much, it would not surprises me that Google throttles ICMP a bit for that network. It's just a free service ;)

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                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                  torisevt
                  last edited by

                  There is a cable modem connected to pfsense that is connected to LAN switch.
                  No another ISP, unless IPsec VPN between sites?

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                    Gertjan @torisevt
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                    @torisevt said in Can't have access to Google's 172.217.0.0 addresses:

                    unless IPsec VPN between sites?

                    Ah !! Even more factors to check !!
                    You've got more such details ?

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      torisevt @Gertjan
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                      @Gertjan
                      I don't know all the things the previous guy has established.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        whats the network settings on the ipsec - are you sending that netblock over the ipsec?

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                          torisevt @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz
                          Where can I find it?

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                            in the vpn, ipsec section - what is setup on the phase 2? This will have tunnel networks and remote networks and local networks defined.

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                              torisevt @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz
                              ipsec tunnels.png ipsec phase2.png

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                well there is your problem a 172/8 - that is not correct for damn sure ;)

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                                  torisevt @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz
                                  We use 172.18.., 172.19.. on the other site

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    that is great - then that should reflect the actual cidr for the networks over there - not the whole 172.everything /8 mask.

                                    rfc1918 space for the 172 would be 172.16/12

                                    with that /8 your telling pfsense 172.217 is over there.

                                    If you only have 172.18 and .19 over there then 172.18/15 would be the correct mask

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                                      torisevt
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                                      After restart, everything started to work.
                                      Google, Gmail.

                                      THEY WORK!!

                                      Thanks for the help @johnpoz

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        Great! Are you just using the .18/15 over there or is bigger block?

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                                          torisevt @johnpoz
                                          last edited by torisevt

                                          @johnpoz
                                          I tried the .18/15 in the phase2 and it worked.
                                          Could I just add subnets to additional phase 2 section?
                                          We have 172.18.1 and 2 and 3 and 172.19.1 and 2.

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                                            kiokoman LAYER 8
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                                            with 172.18.0.0 /15 (Netmask 255.254.0.0 = 15) First IP is 172.18.0.1 and Last IP is 172.19.255.254 so you should have it already in phase 2. there should be no need to do any other mods

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