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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      I've never seen an issue using 8.8.8.8 personally.

      The fact that you have some SWAP usage shown in that screenshot shows that at some point you exhausted the RAM. That can make things go waaaay slower.
      Check the Status > Monitoring graphs for memory usage. Does it peak when you see these incidents?

      Steve

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      • RicoR
        Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
        last edited by

        @stephenw10 said in How to detect a cyber attack:

        I've never seen an issue using 8.8.8.8 personally.

        Yeah I like to use 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 and 1.1.1.1 for monitoring too.

        -Rico

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        • hugoeyngH
          hugoeyng @KOM
          last edited by

          @KOM Great!

          I love pfSense!

          Hugo Eyng
          Datamais Sistemas

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          • hugoeyngH
            hugoeyng @Rico
            last edited by

            @Rico I am not sure but is possible that "You will get false positives using Google's DNS servers." as said @tim-mcmanus.

            But I liked @KOM suggestion.

            I love pfSense!

            Hugo Eyng
            Datamais Sistemas

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            • RicoR
              Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
              last edited by

              I never heard of Google deliberately dropping ICMP traffic to their DNS Servers and personally I never had any issues with it.

              WANGW.png
              WANGW is using 8.8.8.8 atm.

              -Rico

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              • RicoR
                Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                last edited by

                Monitoring any ISP router does not really show a reliable route to the Internet.
                Your ISP could have any routing/peering issue, even if their (core) router is perfectly reachable from your side.

                -Rico

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                • KOMK
                  KOM
                  last edited by

                  It shows you if there is a problem between you and your ISP. Anything past that is out of your control. The whole point of the thing is to be a gateway monitor, not a 5-hops-away monitor. The farther away you monitor, the more likely you will get a false positive of some sort, and I wouldn't want my gateway going down because there is a routing problem many hops away from me.

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                  • Raffi_R
                    Raffi_
                    last edited by

                    On the monitor IP topic, I agree with @Rico and @stephenw10. I have not had issue so far with google DNS. In fact I switched to Google DNS because I suddenly had issues with my ISP's (third hop router). After months of working fine, we had power failures in the area which I suspect also caused issues with that route on the ISP's network. My gateway was marked as down when it wasn't. Switched to 8.8.8.8 and it's been good since then. Is it a perfect solution? No. Will this happen to you? Probably not, but using a device IP on a specific route on the ISP's network to me seems like trouble. If that route goes down like in my case, the traffic will get rerouted and still reach where it needs to go on the web. But that can't happen if my gateway is marked as down and monitoring action is enabled. Ideally, I would like to be able to put in multiple monitor IPs, so if one is not responding another one could.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      I will say that whilst I've never seen an issue with it on numerous pfSense installs, including my own, Google respond to ping there more as a courtesy. They could just stop responding. Also when you ping 8.8.8.8 you are hitting a machine via anycast so the service may vary depending on where you are pinging from.

                      Steve

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                      • Raffi_R
                        Raffi_ @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10 said in How to detect a cyber attack:

                        I will say that whilst I've never seen an issue with it on numerous pfSense installs, including my own, Google respond to ping there more as a courtesy. They could just stop responding. Also when you ping 8.8.8.8 you are hitting a machine via anycast so the service may vary depending on where you are pinging from.

                        Steve

                        Let's hope they don't pull the rug out from under us. I think a lot of gateways would be marked as down :)

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                        • hugoeyngH
                          hugoeyng @Raffi_
                          last edited by

                          @Raffi_ said in How to detect a cyber attack:

                          Let's hope they don't pull the rug out from under us. I think a lot of gateways would be marked as down

                          I hope so too!

                          I tried monitoring White House and Pentagon IP´s but it did not succedd.

                          Those IP´s, I believe, would be the last to be down. :)

                          Thank you everybody.

                          I love pfSense!

                          Hugo Eyng
                          Datamais Sistemas

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                          • Raffi_R
                            Raffi_ @hugoeyng
                            last edited by

                            @hugoeyng said in How to detect a cyber attack:

                            @Raffi_ said in How to detect a cyber attack:

                            Let's hope they don't pull the rug out from under us. I think a lot of gateways would be marked as down

                            I hope so too!

                            I tried monitoring White House and Pentagon IP´s but it did not succedd.

                            Those IP´s, I believe, would be the last to be down. :)

                            Thank you everybody.

                            haha I hope you don't get a knock on the door from people in black suits.

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                              akuma1x @hugoeyng
                              last edited by

                              @hugoeyng said in How to detect a cyber attack:

                              I tried monitoring White House and Pentagon IP´s but it did not succedd.

                              So, White House Down?

                              https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334879/

                              ☺

                              Jeff

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                              • hugoeyngH
                                hugoeyng @Raffi_
                                last edited by

                                @Raffi_ :))))))

                                I love pfSense!

                                Hugo Eyng
                                Datamais Sistemas

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                                • hugoeyngH
                                  hugoeyng @akuma1x
                                  last edited by

                                  @akuma1x hahaha The first to be under attack. Is not a good idea use it to monitoring. Is more secure using the butcher shop next door IP.

                                  I love pfSense!

                                  Hugo Eyng
                                  Datamais Sistemas

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                                  • R
                                    runningboy
                                    last edited by runningboy

                                    In most cases, a cyberattack is almost impossible to notice. This operation takes place instantly and the user does not even understand how the intruders entered the system and control it. This situation happened in the office where I work a few months ago. Cybercriminals tried to get hold of our customer base and spread this information online. They penetrated the network and got all the access codes and passwords from our system, which is why the programs crashed and, by chance, they were unable to commit theft. Since then, we've turned to Cyber ​​Essentials to help protect and support our system from potential threats. I hope this will not happen again.

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