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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      Very odd to be sure... I would hope someone with more HA experience could chime in.. While I have setup a HA for play in vm.. Never ran into such blocks..

      Is this the video your talking about?
      https://www.slideshare.net/NetgateUSA/high-availability-on-pfsense-24-pfsense-hangout-march-2017

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by Derelict

        Nothing magical about XMLRPC sync. It's just a TCP/HTTPS connection to the webgui port on the secondary.

        I suppose on the sending node that could happen if something has killed the state.

        Do you have state killing on gateway failure enabled in System > Advanced, Miscellaneous?

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          But how/why would it be an outbound block?

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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            Sorry I updated ^

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              But I still don't get how it could be an outbound block - that is what the little black arrow thing means.. I have to think there is some setting that are done that are not default..

              I don't run HA setup, nor do I have it that setting set.. But seems odd that there could be outbound blocking even on a state kill?

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by Derelict

                If the primary has an open https connection to the secondary and is trying to send the config changes and something kills the state out from under it, it will continue to try to send the data until it times out and quits.

                It will be out-of-state like anything else in that case.

                # default deny rules
                block in log inet all tracker 1000000103 label "Default deny rule IPv4"
                block out log inet all tracker 1000000104 label "Default deny rule IPv4"
                

                1000000104 is the outbound default deny so that would log like that.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  Yeah I get that it is out of state, but it would be logged as an outbound block?? This is what is confusing me..

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    Sorry. updated again lol

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      Ah that is why its block as outbound.. Then..

                      block out log inet all tracker 1000000104 label "Default deny rule IPv4"

                      Normally never see outbound blocks.. But if its pfsense itself doing the talking, and the state goes away then that rule would block it since the state is missing. Until the process on pfsense creates a new state by sending syn.

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                        Yeah. Everything that was initially set up by the TCP handshake starting with a SYN going out has been blown away so...

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          Ok that makes sense then - thanks. Even though there is a rule that allows pfsense to talk out, it still needs a valid state.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            So if they are seeing this block - how do they restart the sync process so there is a new state created? I really need to play more with the HA stuff.. Time to fire up some vms and play with the HA setup ;) My understanding of the inner works of that is very lacking - I just have not had need to play with it.

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @johnpoz
                              last edited by Derelict

                              @johnpoz It will kick off another sync when another change is made or there's a button in Status > Filter Reload (of all places).

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                hehe - that image just got better, I was thinking man derelict must be blind if has fonts/resolution set like that ;) Now it looks normal.. Before it was HUGE ;)

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz It plays pretty nice in VMs. If you decide to lab it and have any questions just shout. Nothing special needed in proxmox.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    But if the sync is having issues talking to the other side, wouldn't it auto send a new syn?

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                      @johnpoz I made a folder action that automatically downsizes screencaps from the 4K when they are taken. I have gotten lazy with Cmd-Option-Shift-4 (instead of Cmd-Shift-4) because it automatically sends the capture to the clipboard instead of the disk.

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @johnpoz
                                        last edited by Derelict

                                        @johnpoz said in HA XMLRPC error:

                                        But if the sync is having issues talking to the other side, wouldn't it auto send a new syn?

                                        A config sync is a one-time/as-needed event. If the connection fails it isn't retried - or maybe it is I don't know. Not really sure of why it is coded that way (if it is) and wouldn't understand it if I looked in there.

                                        But that would not change those logged blocks or the logged XMLRPC message. It would just try again and succeed.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                          So you running 4k on your monitor? You Suck! ;) you have all the good toys!

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz 5K iMac with a 4K on each side 😜

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