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      Gérald
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      Really !!!
      And it's where ??

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      • JKnottJ
        JKnott @Gérald
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        @Gérald said in pfSense behind 4g router:

        Really !!!
        And it's where ??

        SSH is built in to pfSense, or rather the FreeBSD it runs on. If you're running Linux, it's also built in, but you need something like Putty on Windows.

        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
        UniFi AC-Lite access point

        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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          Gérald
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          I know that SSH is integrated with freeBSD.
          I use it this way to access my servers.
          But it seems that there is no interface in pfSense to make SSH tunnel creation more user frendly

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 said in pfSense behind 4g router:

            ...you should use a VPN for this really.

            😉

            But I'm not sure what you expect to see here for SSH. Once it's enabled in System > Advanced > Admin Access you can tunnel stuff to it or use it as a proxy, which I generally prefer.

            Steve

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            • JKnottJ
              JKnott @Gérald
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              @Gérald said in pfSense behind 4g router:

              But it seems that there is no interface in pfSense to make SSH tunnel creation more user frendly

              ????

              You don't need a tunnel for SSH. It's encrypted on it's own.

              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
              UniFi AC-Lite access point

              I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Looks like he's trying to setup this sort of tunnel:
                https://www.ssh.com/ssh/tunneling/example#sec-Remote-Forwarding

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                  Gérald
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 said in pfSense behind 4g router:

                  Looks like he's trying to setup this sort of tunnel:
                  https://www.ssh.com/ssh/tunneling/example#sec-Remote-Forwarding

                  That's exactly it, as previously stated ...

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Ok, so it's exactly the same as it would be for Debian. What do you expect to see in a 'package' for this?

                    Steve

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                      Gérald
                      last edited by

                      Thanks for your interest !

                      I would like a package that would allow me to set up SSH tunnels quickly between my LAN and my VPS
                      To be able to control their states and an automatic reconnection (autossh) in case of disconnection.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Hmm, I see. So maybe something like the port forward setup page but including configuring the actual SSH connections?

                        I've never seen anything like that offered on any firewall to be honest. Really this is exactly where you would usually just use a VPN. Is there some reason you don't want to use a VPN?

                        Steve

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                          Gérald
                          last edited by

                          Wo not have to install clients on external devices

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Well normally you would setup a site-to-site VPN and client can then connect across it directly. No need to install VPN clients on the hosts behind the firewall. Unless I'm missing something...

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                              JKnott @Gérald
                              last edited by

                              @Gérald said in pfSense behind 4g router:

                              Wo not have to install clients on external devices

                              If the clients are running Windows, you'd still have to install something like Putty.

                              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                              UniFi AC-Lite access point

                              I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                Gérald @JKnott
                                last edited by

                                @JKnott said in pfSense behind 4g router:

                                @Gérald said in pfSense behind 4g router:

                                Wo not have to install clients on external devices

                                If the clients are running Windows, you'd still have to install something like Putty.

                                No, on Windows or Android, with the reverse SSH solution, just use myPublicIP: myPort in the app to connect to the LAN

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                                • JKnottJ
                                  JKnott @Gérald
                                  last edited by

                                  @Gérald said in pfSense behind 4g router:

                                  No, on Windows or Android, with the reverse SSH solution, just use myPublicIP: myPort in the app to connect to the LAN

                                  What are you running on Windows or Android to allow that to happen?

                                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    You don't need to run anything in the client. The SSH tunnel sets up a 'port forward' of sorts so that when you access the local host on the specified port that is forwarded to the remote SSH server at whatever port you specified when you created it.

                                    I can see how that might be useful for numerous distributed remote hosts. If all the remote devices are behind one firewall though a site-to-site VPN makes far more sense there. You could then just access the remote devices directly.

                                    Steve

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                                    • JKnottJ
                                      JKnott @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 said in pfSense behind 4g router:

                                      You don't need to run anything in the client. The SSH tunnel sets up a 'port forward' of sorts so that when you access the local host on the specified port that is forwarded to the remote SSH server at whatever port you specified when you created it.

                                      You need client or server software at each end. Linux provides both. Putty can be used as the client on Windows. What provides the SSH service, client or server in that reverse tunnel?

                                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by stephenw10

                                        I guess the OP is doing this in reverse but you can do it either way...

                                        So I run on a local pfSense box:

                                        [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@5100.stevew.lan]/root: ssh -L 172.21.16.128:4343:127.0.0.1:443 someserver.example.org
                                        

                                        Now any client behind pfSense can access 'someserver' at 172.21.16.128:4343 without any sort of ssh on the client itself.

                                        In the reverse setup pfSense would be the server and clients connect to it with the server end listening for port to forward.

                                        That seems to be what the OP is doing but in the reverse case all the setup is at the client so I'm not sure what help any gui page might be....

                                        Steve

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                                          Gérald
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                                          All the setup is on a local computer : ssh -R remote_port: host: localport VPS_username@VPS_IP_address
                                          On the VPS, juste a simple linux distribution.
                                          On the remote clients, i juste need to use VPS_PublicIP: remote_port in Android, Apple or Windows app

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Right so if you use pfSense instead of the local computer you use currently you could create a VPN to the VPS from it and forward ports across it. You would need something that can do port forwards in the VPS though I guess.

                                            Steve

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