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    • kiokomanK
      kiokoman LAYER 8
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      @uxm said in pfSense on Hyper-V Home Setup questions.:

      AirCube ACB-AC

      did pay attention to this, yeah, listen to johnpoz

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        Yeah not sure what video's he is watching... But that is not wifi AP you would use in a home setup..

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        • uxmU
          uxm @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz sorry I didnt know that Aircube is for costumers deoloyment. I think I will go for the Unifi AP-AC as you said.

          Can I ask one more question? Should the virtual switches on my pfSense be internal and external? How will I be able to manage it? From the host itself or a VM? I thing my physical workstation will not be able to access it, right?

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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            You would manage esxi host via the vmkern, which would be on your lan network..

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            • uxmU
              uxm @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz I dont have VMware esxi installed

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                Sorry hyper-V just admin it from the lan side

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                • uxmU
                  uxm @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz that was my question/statement. That I cant admin it from lan side by a physical pc if the pfsense vm connects to an internal (hyperv) virtual switch. :(

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    You do understand pfsense can have multiple lan side interfaces right, and VM switches can be tied to physical network a well.. Maybe your issue is you don't actually get how VM Hosts work?

                    Your drawing is tied to both physical and virtual networks - so not sure why your confused?

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                    • uxmU
                      uxm
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                      I know how Hyper-V works..The actual reason that I am confused, is that I can't ping pfsense from my physical PC nor I can admin it.

                      Physical PC : 192.168.2.108
                      Pfsense Internal side : 192.168.2.10

                      both on the same LAN/VLAN.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        Well then you have something setup wrong. Or not connected how you think its connected, etc.

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                        • uxmU
                          uxm @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz Yeah I guess so. I will try to find the reason. There is no reason to bother you with that kind of questions but I will come back if I cant make it work.

                          Thank you ALL for your precious help! This community seems to be totally ALIVE!

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                          • provelsP
                            provels
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                            For this, both your LAN and WAN switches should be External.

                            Private - allows VM to VM comms
                            Internal - allows VM to VM comms plus comms to Host
                            External - As above, plus outside world

                            On the LAN v-switch, you can select the sharing checkbox below (I don't on mine because i have a 4-port NIC where I assign the host a port of its own). Then you can manage the VM from the host OS.
                            8699a045-7560-4df4-afcd-60406f44649a-image.png
                            I just run a flat network with no VLANs. I don't really see the point in a home setup, just more complexity.

                            Internet--Modem--Host--pfSense--Switches--Access Points--Clients

                            Only reason I'd use a VLAN would be it I was trying to use a single NIC board as a pfSense hardware firewall (Router-on-a-stick). You could use your Asus as an AP by just plugging one of the LAN (not WAN) ports into your network as long as the LAN side is configured as the same network as the rest of your LAN, but you'd still need to buy a modem. HTH

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              @provels said in pfSense on Hyper-V Home Setup questions.:

                              I don't really see the point in a home setup, just more complexity.

                              Do you have more things on this flat network than just your PC or a couple of devices - iot, stuff that is serving up to the internet, etc.. You would use vlans or other network segments as a means to secure your network..

                              He doesn't need a modem - he needs an AP he can use his current device as just the modem and turn off its wifi.. Or use it as well as different non filtered wifi network that is on the "wan" side of pfsense.

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                              • provelsP
                                provels @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz No IoT, even though my refrigerator and dishwasher could talk to the world if I desired it. No Alexa or other because I would want an always-on mic in my house..., why? I have no desire to talk to any device unless it is a phone and there is a live body on the other end. Several network receivers, couple phones, Hyper-V host that is also my main workstation with pfSense and several other workstation OS, smart TV, and a lappy for RDP. I even run G wireless with MAC filtering and hidden SSIDs (the horror!) And it's just me, so.... no need for guest nets. And no FB or Twitter even, because that is just largely the toilet of the Internet. anyway. So there.

                                Agreed, I know he doesn't need a modem, but he will have to buy something to do what he wants. Frankly I'd just ditch the gateway on EBay and buy discreet components. Kind of depends how many of his clients are in use simultaneously as well.

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                  @provels said in pfSense on Hyper-V Home Setup questions.:

                                  I even run G wireless with MAC filtering and hidden SSIDs

                                  Because that is pointless ;) And you like added pain for no reason?

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                                  • provelsP
                                    provels @johnpoz
                                    last edited by provels

                                    @johnpoz Point? I have trusted devices in family, anyone else can pay for their own data.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      None - its pointless to do such a thing.. You just added complexity for ZERO reason other than your own grief.. But someone segmenting out their network for actually security reasons is pointless complexity?

                                      If you don't want someone on your wifi - then don't give them the PSK.. There is zero reason for mac filtering or not broadcasting the SSID.

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                                      • provelsP
                                        provels @johnpoz
                                        last edited by provels

                                        @johnpoz Well, if you can find me, feel free to hack my wireless. At any rate, it still depends WHY he wants to do it. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD. Sort of how I feel about running a DC on a home net...

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                                        • uxmU
                                          uxm
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                                          So, for my pfsense, to be able to "talk" to the physical workstations on the network, there must be two external virtual switches on the hyperv hosts right?

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                                          • provelsP
                                            provels @uxm
                                            last edited by provels

                                            @uxm said in pfSense on Hyper-V Home Setup questions.:

                                            So, for my pfsense, to be able to "talk" to the physical workstations on the network, there must be two external virtual switches on the hyperv hosts right?

                                            Yep, and one pf interface min hooked to each.

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