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      kevindd992002 @kevindd992002
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      @dennypage, I noticed that the nut service is stopped on my pfsense box just today and I manually started it. Here are the ups logs:

      Jan 22 13:16:46 	upsd 	45400 	User monuser@192.168.20.22 logged into UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 13:16:43 	upsd 	45400 	User local-monitor@::1 logged into UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 13:16:41 	upsd 	45400 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 13:16:41 	upsd 	45398 	Connected to UPS [ups]: usbhid-ups-ups
      Jan 22 13:16:41 	upsd 	45398 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 13:16:41 	upsd 	45398 	listening on ::1 port 3493
      Jan 22 13:16:41 	upsd 	45398 	listening on 192.168.20.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 13:16:41 	usbhid-ups 	45330 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 13:16:40 	upsmon 	44373 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:20:28 	upsd 	99366 	User monuser@192.168.20.22 logged into UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 04:20:23 	upsd 	99366 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:20:23 	upsd 	99032 	Connected to UPS [ups]: usbhid-ups-ups
      Jan 22 04:20:23 	upsd 	99032 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:20:23 	upsd 	99032 	listening on ::1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:20:23 	upsd 	99032 	listening on 192.168.20.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:20:22 	usbhid-ups 	95162 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:20:22 	upsd 	87824 	User local-monitor@::1 logged into UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 04:20:20 	upsd 	87824 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:20:20 	upsd 	87506 	Connected to UPS [ups]: usbhid-ups-ups
      Jan 22 04:20:20 	upsd 	87506 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:20:20 	upsd 	87506 	listening on ::1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:20:20 	upsd 	87506 	listening on 192.168.20.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:20:19 	usbhid-ups 	81258 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:20:19 	upsmon 	71993 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:20:19 	usbhid-ups 	2862 	Signal 15: exiting
      Jan 22 04:20:18 	upsd 	28531 	Signal 15: exiting
      Jan 22 04:20:18 	upsd 	28531 	mainloop: Interrupted system call
      Jan 22 04:20:18 	upsd 	28531 	User local-monitor@::1 logged out from UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 04:20:18 	upsmon 	98185 	Signal 15: exiting
      Jan 22 04:13:59 	upsd 	28531 	User local-monitor@::1 logged into UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 04:13:58 	upsd 	28531 	User monuser@192.168.20.22 logged into UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 04:13:55 	upsd 	28531 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:13:55 	upsd 	27776 	Connected to UPS [ups]: usbhid-ups-ups
      Jan 22 04:13:55 	upsd 	27776 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:13:55 	upsd 	27776 	listening on ::1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:13:55 	upsd 	27776 	listening on 192.168.20.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:13:54 	usbhid-ups 	2862 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:13:54 	upsmon 	97914 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:13:52 	upsd 	90454 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:13:52 	upsd 	90156 	Connected to UPS [ups]: usbhid-ups-ups
      Jan 22 04:13:52 	upsd 	90156 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:13:52 	upsd 	90156 	listening on ::1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:13:52 	upsd 	90156 	listening on 192.168.20.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 04:13:51 	usbhid-ups 	89839 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:13:51 	upsmon 	83244 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 04:13:51 	usbhid-ups 	71212 	Signal 15: exiting
      Jan 22 04:13:51 	upsd 	3561 	Signal 15: exiting
      Jan 22 04:13:51 	upsd 	3561 	mainloop: Interrupted system call
      Jan 22 04:13:51 	upsd 	3561 	User local-monitor@::1 logged out from UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 04:13:51 	upsmon 	69440 	Signal 15: exiting
      Jan 22 03:59:08 	upsd 	3561 	User monuser@192.168.20.22 logged into UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 03:59:08 	upsd 	3561 	User local-monitor@::1 logged into UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 03:59:06 	upsd 	3561 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 03:59:06 	upsd 	2944 	Connected to UPS [ups]: usbhid-ups-ups
      Jan 22 03:59:06 	upsd 	2944 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 03:59:06 	upsd 	2944 	listening on ::1 port 3493
      Jan 22 03:59:06 	upsd 	2944 	listening on 192.168.20.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 03:59:05 	usbhid-ups 	71212 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 03:59:05 	upsmon 	69088 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 03:59:05 	upsd 	59887 	User local-monitor@::1 logged into UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 03:59:03 	upsd 	59887 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 03:59:03 	upsd 	59792 	Connected to UPS [ups]: usbhid-ups-ups
      Jan 22 03:59:03 	upsd 	59792 	listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 03:59:03 	upsd 	59792 	listening on ::1 port 3493
      Jan 22 03:59:03 	upsd 	59792 	listening on 192.168.20.1 port 3493
      Jan 22 03:59:02 	usbhid-ups 	59385 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 03:59:02 	upsmon 	53529 	Startup successful
      Jan 22 03:59:01 	usbhid-ups 	14878 	Signal 15: exiting
      Jan 22 03:59:01 	upsd 	15286 	Signal 15: exiting
      Jan 22 03:59:01 	upsd 	15286 	mainloop: Interrupted system call
      Jan 22 03:59:01 	upsd 	15286 	User local-monitor@::1 logged out from UPS [ups]
      Jan 22 03:59:01 	upsmon 	14537 	Signal 15: exiting
      

      Do you have any ideas as to why it suddenly stopped?

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      • dennypageD
        dennypage @kevindd992002
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        @kevindd992002 It looks like it was restarted. Possibly as a result of an interface flap. For answers to these kinds of questions, you need to evaluate the entire system log surrounding an event, not just entries that have the string "ups" in them.

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          DannyBoy2k
          last edited by

          I just wanted to say a big thanks to @dennypage for all the information provided here. Anticipating a battle in getting my new SG-3100 and CyberPower CP685AVRG talking to each other, I found this thread while Googling for information. I read all of this thread and the start of the NUT documentation on configuration, but found the actual process a total non-event.

          I only had to plug in the USB cable, install the nut package, reboot for good measure (because I think I read there might be a permissions issue for something if I didn't?), and then set the one dropdown to Local USB and hit Save. Boom! Up and running! Too easy.

          Having gone through this thread, I have a really clear picture of the options available to me, how to debug processes, and how I might setup other systems to use the pfsense as a master, if needed, including setting up the Synology I haven't used in ages. This thread is a treasure trove of information. Thanks!

          ~Dan

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            flu
            last edited by

            I have email alert activated for nut.
            Nut is sending messages like "Communications with UPS UPS lost" and "UPS UPS is unavailable" every time something is changed on any interface. Like editing a interface, restarting a OpenVPN server or even when just the PPPoe lost the DSL connection or is reconnecting.
            But the UPS is connected directly to pfsense through a serial port so it is not actually not losing connection.

            All these "false positive" error messages make it hard to get alarmed should there really be an issue with the UPS sometime.

            Is it possible to fix this behaviour?

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              DurUser @flu
              last edited by

              @flu I think I have seen the same thing happen.

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              • dennypageD
                dennypage @DannyBoy2k
                last edited by

                @DannyBoy2k You are most welcome. Glad it was so easy!

                And very impressed that you went through the entire thread. 👏

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                • dennypageD
                  dennypage @flu
                  last edited by

                  @flu Yes, this happens because when an interface flaps, pfSense restarts all add-on services. The reason for this is that pfSense itself does not have direct knowledge of what dependencies the services have on interfaces (if any).

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                    flu @dennypage
                    last edited by

                    @dennypage
                    many thanks for the explanation.
                    I guess the nut package could be changed so that it does not send messages like "Communications with UPS UPS lost" and "UPS UPS is unavailable" every time it gets restarted by pfsense?

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                    • dennypageD
                      dennypage @flu
                      last edited by

                      @flu The email comes from NUT itself, rather than the pfSense NUT package. And from NUT's point of view, the connection to the UPS is actually being lost. This will be triggered by something that affects the USB or serial connectivity being restarted or reloaded underneath NUT. NUT doesn't know why the connection failed, it just knows that it failed so it sends the email. You should be able to see the order of events in the system log if you want to understand more about what is happening.

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                        kevindd992002 @dennypage
                        last edited by

                        @dennypage So here's what I noticed recently in my system logs after receiving UPS communication lost and established emails:

                        Feb 19 04:33:53 	php-cgi 		nut_email.php: Message sent to kevindd992002@yahoo.com OK
                        Feb 19 04:33:49 	php-cgi 		nut_email.php: Message sent to kevindd992002@yahoo.com OK
                        Feb 19 04:33:46 	upsmon 	43175 	Communications with UPS ups established
                        Feb 19 04:33:44 	upsd 	86349 	UPS [ups] data is no longer stale
                        Feb 19 04:33:41 	upsmon 	43175 	Communications with UPS ups lost
                        Feb 19 04:33:41 	upsmon 	43175 	Poll UPS [ups] failed - Data stale
                        Feb 19 04:33:41 	kernel 		ugen0.2: <EATON 5E> at usbus0
                        Feb 19 04:33:38 	kernel 		ugen0.2: <EATON 5E> at usbus0 (disconnected)
                        Feb 19 04:33:37 	upsd 	86349 	Data for UPS [ups] is stale - check driver
                        

                        What does "data is stale" even mean? And why does this happen intermittently?

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan @kevindd992002
                          last edited by

                          @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

                          What does "data is stale" even mean? And why does this happen intermittently?

                          Probably because :
                          Feb 19 04:33:38 kernel ugen0.2: <EATON 5E> at usbus0 (disconnected)
                          Feb 19 04:33:37 upsd 86349 Data for UPS [ups] is stale - check driver

                          which says to me that the link between the driver (NUT ?) and the UPS device (cable, whatever) isn't "stable".

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            kevindd992002 @Gertjan
                            last edited by

                            @Gertjan said in NUT package:

                            @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

                            What does "data is stale" even mean? And why does this happen intermittently?

                            Probably because :
                            Feb 19 04:33:38 kernel ugen0.2: <EATON 5E> at usbus0 (disconnected)
                            Feb 19 04:33:37 upsd 86349 Data for UPS [ups] is stale - check driver

                            which says to me that the link between the driver (NUT ?) and the UPS device (cable, whatever) isn't "stable".

                            Right but it's just weird that it happens randomly. It's not the UPS and cable because those were replaced already. I also tried using another usb port on the apu2c4 to no avail. There are only 2 usb ports available. Maybe the hub itself? How can you tell for sure though?

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                            • dennypageD
                              dennypage @kevindd992002
                              last edited by

                              @kevindd992002 It's either the host end or the UPS end. On the host end, it can be hardware (bridge controller) or software (kernel driver). On the UPS end it would just be a flakey USB implementation.

                              What I generally recommend to people having these types of issues:

                              • Try a different port on the host that uses a different bridge chip. Favor ports that are USB 2 as USB 3 ports usually have more problems.
                              • If you have a USB hub between the host and the UPS, try removing it.
                              • If you don't have a USB hub between the host and the UPS, try adding one.
                              • Try a different USB hub that uses a different bridge chip.
                              • Try a different UPS model.
                              • Try a different host model.

                              Regarding the apu2c4, you might find this an interesting read.

                              Bonne chance

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                                q54e3w
                                last edited by

                                @dennypage I'm seeing the following log entries under 2.4.5, anything to be concerned about?

                                Apr 16 07:09:28	upsmon	92379	Communications with UPS UPS established
                                Apr 16 07:09:28	upsd	33793	User local-monitor@127.0.0.1 logged into UPS [UPS]
                                Apr 16 07:09:23	upsmon	92379	Communications with UPS UPS lost
                                Apr 16 07:09:23	upsmon	92379	Poll UPS [UPS] failed - Write error: Permission denied
                                Apr 16 07:09:21	nginx		2020/04/16 07:09:21 [crit] 11971#100993: *62736 SSL_write() failed (13: Permission denied) while processing HTTP/2 connection, client: 192.168.20.115, server: 0.0.0.0:4433
                                Apr 16 07:08:43	upsmon	92379	Communications with UPS UPS established
                                Apr 16 07:08:43	upsd	33793	User local-monitor@127.0.0.1 logged into UPS [UPS]
                                Apr 16 07:08:38	upsmon	92379	Communications with UPS UPS lost
                                Apr 16 07:08:38	upsmon	92379	Poll UPS [UPS] failed - Write error: Permission denied
                                
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                                • dennypageD
                                  dennypage @q54e3w
                                  last edited by

                                  @q54e3w Can you provide information on your NUT configuration please?

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                                    q54e3w
                                    last edited by

                                    UPS is a network connected Eaton 9PX with Network Card 2.

                                    UPS Type: Remote SNMP
                                    UPS Name: UPS
                                    Notifications: Enabled

                                    Driver Settings
                                    Remote IP: 192.168.10.42
                                    Extra args:
                                    mibs = pw
                                    pollfreq = 15
                                    ignorelb

                                    Advanced Settings
                                    FINALDELAY 180
                                    Addition configuration lines for ups.conf = LISTEN 192.168.10.1
                                    Additional ups.users
                                    [remoteuser]
                                    password = mysupersecretpassword
                                    upsmon slave

                                    This provides the following status

                                    UPS Status
                                    Name: UPS@localhost
                                    Summary status: On line
                                    Runtime (H:M:S): 5:17:00
                                    UPS Load:
                                    36.00%
                                    Battery charge:
                                    100.00%
                                    Battery voltage: 52.00
                                    Input frequency: 60.00

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                                    • dennypageD
                                      dennypage @q54e3w
                                      last edited by

                                      @q54e3w said in NUT package:

                                      Poll UPS [UPS] failed - Write error: Permission denied

                                      Is there anything that precedes this entry in the log? Perhaps something similar to this?

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                                        q54e3w @dennypage
                                        last edited by

                                        @dennypage said in NUT package:

                                        Is there anything that precedes this entry in the log? Perhaps something similar to this?

                                        No, no other errors or messages from upsd/upsmon above or below that one. First sign of trouble is the Poll UPS failed.

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                                        • dennypageD
                                          dennypage @q54e3w
                                          last edited by

                                          @q54e3w said in NUT package:

                                          @dennypage said in NUT package:

                                          Is there anything that precedes this entry in the log? Perhaps something similar to this?

                                          No, no other errors or messages from upsd/upsmon above or below that one. First sign of trouble is the Poll UPS failed.

                                          I wasn’t asking about other upsd/upsmon messages, rather I was asking about messages associated with links flapping, DHCP activities, etc. Similar to the logs in the link above.

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                                            q54e3w
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                                            ahhhh, gotcha. There was another issue with UPnP that I resolved and thats when I noticed these entries. I'll keep an eye on it but as I haven't seen a repeat maybe it was related. Thank you.

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