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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @r79c
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      @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

      on the pc i get a dhcp lease but am unable to ping 192.168.5.1

      Well then look to the client for why... Can you arp pfsense 192.168.5.1 on the client? You have no rules allowing to ping pfsense.. Its possible everything thing is getting shoved out your policy.. So no you wouldn't be able to ping 192.168.5.1... Create a rule above your policy route rule that allows ping to vlan address

      I've just read that you cannot send vlan over vpn!

      Your reading that WRONG... That has nothing to do with what your doing, which is routing a specific network/vlan over a vpn connection.

      As to getting to the internet - well how and the F do you think its going to go out your vpn which your forcing via your policy route.. But your not natting to it... We already went over this!!!

      What I would highly suggest you do is get your vlan 5 working as a normal network before you worry about shoving all its traffic down some vpn connection.

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        r79c @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz What I would highly suggest you do is get your vlan 5 working as a normal network before you worry about shoving all its traffic down some vpn connection.

        that's what I'm trying to do

        @johnpoz Create a rule above your policy route rule that allows ping to vlan address

        By policy route rule you mean a firewall rule in the vlan tab that allows me to ping vlan address?

        if i do arp -a 192.168.5.1 i get

        Interface: 192.168.5.0 --- 0x7
        Internet Address 192.168.5.1
        Physical Address MAC
        Type Dynamic

        rules picture

        https://ibb.co/cyTRT9s

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

          I dont get a response with arp 192.168.5.1

          Look in your client that is on this vlan 5, look in its arp table.. If you do not see pfsense mac address then NO your never going to be able to ping it.

          And would say your not getting dhcp from it either..

          I am assuming this is a windows box.

          lets see its ipconfig /all
          ping 192.168.5.1
          look in your arp table
          arp -a

          This is WRONG

          Interface: 192.168.5.0 --- 0x7
          

          Post your ipconfig /all

          Your interface sure and the hell should not have a .0 address with a /24 mask.

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            r79c
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            arp -a on the client gives me

            Interface: 192.168.5.50 --- 0x7

            Internet Address
            192.168.1.125
            192.168.1.201
            192.168.1.202
            192.168.5.1 - mac address is that of LAN interface on Pfsense
            192.168.5.255
            224.0.0.2
            224.0.0.251
            224.0.0.252
            239.255.255.250
            255.255.255.255

            with all the physical address as well

            ipconfig /all

            Connection : localdomain
            description: intel gb network connection
            physical: mac
            dhcp enabled: yes
            auto config: yes
            link local ipv6: ...
            ipv4 192.168.5.50
            subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
            default gateway: 192.168.5.1
            dhcp server: 192.168.5.1
            dhcpv6 iaid: 133459204
            dhcpv6 client duid: ...
            dns server: 192.168.5.1
            netbios over tcip: enabled

            yes client is a windows box

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              Well is the mac address for 5.1 pfsense mac address. Where were you seeing 5.0? for your interface?

              You have something really F'd up

              192.168.1.125
              192.168.1.201
              192.168.1.202
              

              You shouldn't be seeing 192.168.1 address if your in vlan 5!!!

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                r79c @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz yes the mac address for 5.1 is the mac address of the lan interface

                5.0 must have been a typo

                two of those 192.168.1 address are static IP mappings for devices
                192.168.1.125 is the IP address of an access point

                all these IP addresses go through port 3 on the netgear switch which is connected to a wireless access point mesh

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                  two of those 192.168.1 address are static IP mappings for devices

                  Doesn't matter! So you created those on the device directly with arp? For why? It is pointless, and does nothing - sure and the F not going to work..

                  I take it basic understanding of how vlans actually work, and what they do is where we need to start..

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                    r79c @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz So you created those on the device directly with arp? For why?

                    I statically mapped those IP addresses using Pfsense with arp yes, why, because those two devices are TV's which I did not want to put the traffic over VPN connection.

                    @johnpoz I take it basic understanding of how vlans actually work, and what they do is where we need to start..

                    sure, your the only one responding to this, and I'm grateful because I can't seem to get this working at all!!! I'm starting to wonder why I'm bothering really, as I only wanted to setup up one VLAN with one PC on my home network LoL

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                      I statically mapped those IP addresses using Pfsense with arp yes,

                      Dude ON THE CLIENT!!! we need to see the arp table on the CLIENT that is in vlan 5 and connected to port 1 of your switch... Not the arp table of pfsense!!!!

                      Here

                      $ arp -a                                                      
                                                                                    
                      Interface: 192.168.9.100 --- 0xc                              
                        Internet Address      Physical Address      Type            
                        192.168.9.10          00-11-32-7b-29-7d     dynamic         
                        192.168.9.11          00-11-32-7b-29-7e     dynamic         
                        192.168.9.99          70-6e-6d-f3-11-93     dynamic         
                        192.168.9.208         02-11-32-2d-aa-61     dynamic         
                        192.168.9.253         00-08-a2-0c-e6-24     dynamic         
                        192.168.9.255         ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                        224.0.0.22            01-00-5e-00-00-16     static          
                        239.192.0.0           01-00-5e-40-00-00     static          
                        239.255.255.250       01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa     static          
                        255.255.255.255       ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                                                                                    
                      Interface: 192.168.9.101 --- 0x14                             
                        Internet Address      Physical Address      Type            
                        192.168.9.10          00-11-32-7b-29-7d     dynamic         
                        192.168.9.11          00-11-32-7b-29-7e     dynamic         
                        192.168.9.253         00-08-a2-0c-e6-24     dynamic         
                        192.168.9.255         ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                        224.0.0.22            01-00-5e-00-00-16     static          
                        239.192.0.0           01-00-5e-40-00-00     static          
                        239.255.255.250       01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa     static          
                        255.255.255.255       ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                      

                      This is my windows box arp table... Post yours up from the BOX connected to port 1 of your switch! if on that box your seeing 192.168.1 IPs then your setup is BORKED!!!

                      And post your ipconfig /all

                      $ ipconfig /all                                                                     
                                                                                                          
                      Windows IP Configuration                                                            
                                                                                                          
                         Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : i5-win                                       
                         Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : local.lan                                    
                         Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast                                    
                         IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No                                           
                         WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No                                           
                         DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : local.lan                                    
                                                                                                          
                      Ethernet adapter Local:                                                             
                                                                                                          
                         Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :                                              
                         Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GbE Family Controller           
                         Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-3B-2F-67-62                            
                         DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No                                           
                         Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes                                          
                         IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.9.100(Preferred)                     
                         Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0                                
                         Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.9.253                                
                         DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.3.10                                 
                         NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled                                      
                                                                                                          
                      

                      At a loss to where your posting that arp info from - because that sure and the F does not look like how pfsense would present it..... And no matter what you did with static arps on pfsense they would not show in your clients arp table.. You do not have your vlans setup how you think you do if your seeing arp entries from 192.168.1 on your box that is suppose to be in vlan 5

                      This is switch setup
                      pfsense - 1U,5T --- switch --- 5U --- vlan 5 client

                      If that is how you have it setup, you should NEVER see arp entries for anything other than what is in vlan 5

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                        r79c
                        last edited by r79c

                        ok here it is, from the client...

                        C:\WINDOWS\system32>arp -a
                        
                        Interface: 192.68.5.50 --- 0x7
                           Internet Address                       Physical Address                  Type
                           192.168.1.125                          b0-be-76-b7-cf-8c                  dynamic
                           192.168.1.201                          78-bd-bc-34-d0-f3                  dynamic
                           192.168.1.202                          08-84-9d-87-b5-d3                 dynamic
                           192.168.5.1                              6d-b3-11-1c-6c-77                  dynamic
                           192.168.5.255                          ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff                                static
                           224.0.0.22                                 01-00-5e-00-00-16                 static
                           224.0.0.251                               01-00-5e-00-00-fb                  static
                           224.0.0.252                               01-00-5e-00-00-fc                  static
                           239.255.255.250                      01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa                      static
                           255.255.255.255                      ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff                                static
                        

                        BORKED! LOL

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by johnpoz

                          Yup that is BORKED

                          You should not be seeing 192.168.1 address if your in vlan 5.. So your switch is clearly not setup correctly. or its not doing what it should be doing.. If you were in vlan 5 it would not be possible for you to get arp answers for anything in 192.168.1

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                            r79c @johnpoz
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                            @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                            This is switch setup
                            pfsense - 1U,5T --- switch --- 5U --- vlan 5 client

                            If you could look at the following pictures they show the netgear switch setup as it is at the moment.

                            https://ibb.co/0ft99fJ
                            https://ibb.co/D9W0ZXV
                            https://ibb.co/wy401MF
                            https://ibb.co/z7Rv26Z

                            Pfsense is plugged in to port 2

                            VLAN5 PC Client is plugged in to port 1

                            Everything else is plugged into port 3

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              that looks correct yes..

                              But its not working if your seeing mac of devices in 192.168.1..

                              Clear your arp table... Do they come back? trying pinging one of those 192.168.1 address from your client after you clear your arp.

                              BTW your rules on vlan 5 are WRONG!!! source would NEVER be pfsense on vlan 5 address.. Source would be vlan 5 net..

                              What did you set netgears IP too? You said you changed it.

                              What is the hardware of your pfsense box?
                              6DB311

                              That doesn't resolve as maker of networking gear..

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                                r79c @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                Clear your arp table

                                cleared and not returned

                                cannot ping any 192.168.1 or 192.168.5

                                i have the following arp entries now

                                192.168.5.1
                                192.168.5.255
                                224.0.0.22
                                224.0.0.251
                                224.0.0.252
                                239.255.255.250
                                255.255.255.255

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  Ok that is better!

                                  So simple test is sniff on pfsense vlan interface while you ping it from the client.. Do you see the ping?

                                  BTW what hardware is the nic on pfsense? that mac doesn't resolve to anyone..

                                  ping.jpg

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                                    r79c @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                    Do you see the ping?

                                    16:37:10.374829 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 36, length 40
                                    16:37:15.321366 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 37, length 40
                                    16:37:20.337599 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 38, length 40
                                    16:37:25.318515 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 39, length 40
                                    16:37:26.442815 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                                    16:37:27.009842 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                    16:37:27.463007 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                                    16:37:28.011221 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                    16:37:28.465757 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                                    16:37:29.013961 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                    16:37:29.468473 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                                    16:37:31.022413 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                    16:37:32.811702 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.5.1 (6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77) tell 192.168.5.50, length 46
                                    16:37:32.811707 ARP, Reply 192.168.5.1 is-at 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77, length 28
                                    16:37:35.033636 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                    
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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                      @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                      16:37:10.374829 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 36, length 40
                                      16:37:15.321366 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 37, length 40

                                      Yup... So lets see your rules on on vlan 5 again... And do you have any rules in floating?

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                                        r79c @johnpoz
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                                        https://ibb.co/rs4tG8r

                                        https://ibb.co/zVDwqW4

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                          So your blocking it with pfblocker... Disable those rules on floating as test!

                                          That firehol list contains rfc1918 address space!!

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                                            r79c @johnpoz
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                                            Ok I disabled those rules and disabled pfblocker for the time being.

                                            I set those rules up when I set up pfblocker but I was never 100% competent on how it is setup, I only set it up about two weeks ago....

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