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      r79c @johnpoz
      last edited by r79c

      @johnpoz What I would highly suggest you do is get your vlan 5 working as a normal network before you worry about shoving all its traffic down some vpn connection.

      that's what I'm trying to do

      @johnpoz Create a rule above your policy route rule that allows ping to vlan address

      By policy route rule you mean a firewall rule in the vlan tab that allows me to ping vlan address?

      if i do arp -a 192.168.5.1 i get

      Interface: 192.168.5.0 --- 0x7
      Internet Address 192.168.5.1
      Physical Address MAC
      Type Dynamic

      rules picture

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz

        @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

        I dont get a response with arp 192.168.5.1

        Look in your client that is on this vlan 5, look in its arp table.. If you do not see pfsense mac address then NO your never going to be able to ping it.

        And would say your not getting dhcp from it either..

        I am assuming this is a windows box.

        lets see its ipconfig /all
        ping 192.168.5.1
        look in your arp table
        arp -a

        This is WRONG

        Interface: 192.168.5.0 --- 0x7
        

        Post your ipconfig /all

        Your interface sure and the hell should not have a .0 address with a /24 mask.

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          r79c
          last edited by r79c

          arp -a on the client gives me

          Interface: 192.168.5.50 --- 0x7

          Internet Address
          192.168.1.125
          192.168.1.201
          192.168.1.202
          192.168.5.1 - mac address is that of LAN interface on Pfsense
          192.168.5.255
          224.0.0.2
          224.0.0.251
          224.0.0.252
          239.255.255.250
          255.255.255.255

          with all the physical address as well

          ipconfig /all

          Connection : localdomain
          description: intel gb network connection
          physical: mac
          dhcp enabled: yes
          auto config: yes
          link local ipv6: ...
          ipv4 192.168.5.50
          subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
          default gateway: 192.168.5.1
          dhcp server: 192.168.5.1
          dhcpv6 iaid: 133459204
          dhcpv6 client duid: ...
          dns server: 192.168.5.1
          netbios over tcip: enabled

          yes client is a windows box

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            Well is the mac address for 5.1 pfsense mac address. Where were you seeing 5.0? for your interface?

            You have something really F'd up

            192.168.1.125
            192.168.1.201
            192.168.1.202
            

            You shouldn't be seeing 192.168.1 address if your in vlan 5!!!

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              r79c @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz yes the mac address for 5.1 is the mac address of the lan interface

              5.0 must have been a typo

              two of those 192.168.1 address are static IP mappings for devices
              192.168.1.125 is the IP address of an access point

              all these IP addresses go through port 3 on the netgear switch which is connected to a wireless access point mesh

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                two of those 192.168.1 address are static IP mappings for devices

                Doesn't matter! So you created those on the device directly with arp? For why? It is pointless, and does nothing - sure and the F not going to work..

                I take it basic understanding of how vlans actually work, and what they do is where we need to start..

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                  r79c @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz So you created those on the device directly with arp? For why?

                  I statically mapped those IP addresses using Pfsense with arp yes, why, because those two devices are TV's which I did not want to put the traffic over VPN connection.

                  @johnpoz I take it basic understanding of how vlans actually work, and what they do is where we need to start..

                  sure, your the only one responding to this, and I'm grateful because I can't seem to get this working at all!!! I'm starting to wonder why I'm bothering really, as I only wanted to setup up one VLAN with one PC on my home network LoL

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                    I statically mapped those IP addresses using Pfsense with arp yes,

                    Dude ON THE CLIENT!!! we need to see the arp table on the CLIENT that is in vlan 5 and connected to port 1 of your switch... Not the arp table of pfsense!!!!

                    Here

                    $ arp -a                                                      
                                                                                  
                    Interface: 192.168.9.100 --- 0xc                              
                      Internet Address      Physical Address      Type            
                      192.168.9.10          00-11-32-7b-29-7d     dynamic         
                      192.168.9.11          00-11-32-7b-29-7e     dynamic         
                      192.168.9.99          70-6e-6d-f3-11-93     dynamic         
                      192.168.9.208         02-11-32-2d-aa-61     dynamic         
                      192.168.9.253         00-08-a2-0c-e6-24     dynamic         
                      192.168.9.255         ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                      224.0.0.22            01-00-5e-00-00-16     static          
                      239.192.0.0           01-00-5e-40-00-00     static          
                      239.255.255.250       01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa     static          
                      255.255.255.255       ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                                                                                  
                    Interface: 192.168.9.101 --- 0x14                             
                      Internet Address      Physical Address      Type            
                      192.168.9.10          00-11-32-7b-29-7d     dynamic         
                      192.168.9.11          00-11-32-7b-29-7e     dynamic         
                      192.168.9.253         00-08-a2-0c-e6-24     dynamic         
                      192.168.9.255         ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                      224.0.0.22            01-00-5e-00-00-16     static          
                      239.192.0.0           01-00-5e-40-00-00     static          
                      239.255.255.250       01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa     static          
                      255.255.255.255       ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff     static          
                    

                    This is my windows box arp table... Post yours up from the BOX connected to port 1 of your switch! if on that box your seeing 192.168.1 IPs then your setup is BORKED!!!

                    And post your ipconfig /all

                    $ ipconfig /all                                                                     
                                                                                                        
                    Windows IP Configuration                                                            
                                                                                                        
                       Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : i5-win                                       
                       Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : local.lan                                    
                       Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast                                    
                       IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No                                           
                       WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No                                           
                       DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : local.lan                                    
                                                                                                        
                    Ethernet adapter Local:                                                             
                                                                                                        
                       Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :                                              
                       Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GbE Family Controller           
                       Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-3B-2F-67-62                            
                       DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No                                           
                       Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes                                          
                       IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.9.100(Preferred)                     
                       Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0                                
                       Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.9.253                                
                       DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.3.10                                 
                       NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled                                      
                                                                                                        
                    

                    At a loss to where your posting that arp info from - because that sure and the F does not look like how pfsense would present it..... And no matter what you did with static arps on pfsense they would not show in your clients arp table.. You do not have your vlans setup how you think you do if your seeing arp entries from 192.168.1 on your box that is suppose to be in vlan 5

                    This is switch setup
                    pfsense - 1U,5T --- switch --- 5U --- vlan 5 client

                    If that is how you have it setup, you should NEVER see arp entries for anything other than what is in vlan 5

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                      r79c
                      last edited by r79c

                      ok here it is, from the client...

                      C:\WINDOWS\system32>arp -a
                      
                      Interface: 192.68.5.50 --- 0x7
                         Internet Address                       Physical Address                  Type
                         192.168.1.125                          b0-be-76-b7-cf-8c                  dynamic
                         192.168.1.201                          78-bd-bc-34-d0-f3                  dynamic
                         192.168.1.202                          08-84-9d-87-b5-d3                 dynamic
                         192.168.5.1                              6d-b3-11-1c-6c-77                  dynamic
                         192.168.5.255                          ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff                                static
                         224.0.0.22                                 01-00-5e-00-00-16                 static
                         224.0.0.251                               01-00-5e-00-00-fb                  static
                         224.0.0.252                               01-00-5e-00-00-fc                  static
                         239.255.255.250                      01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa                      static
                         255.255.255.255                      ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff                                static
                      

                      BORKED! LOL

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        Yup that is BORKED

                        You should not be seeing 192.168.1 address if your in vlan 5.. So your switch is clearly not setup correctly. or its not doing what it should be doing.. If you were in vlan 5 it would not be possible for you to get arp answers for anything in 192.168.1

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                          r79c @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                          This is switch setup
                          pfsense - 1U,5T --- switch --- 5U --- vlan 5 client

                          If you could look at the following pictures they show the netgear switch setup as it is at the moment.

                          https://ibb.co/0ft99fJ
                          https://ibb.co/D9W0ZXV
                          https://ibb.co/wy401MF
                          https://ibb.co/z7Rv26Z

                          Pfsense is plugged in to port 2

                          VLAN5 PC Client is plugged in to port 1

                          Everything else is plugged into port 3

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            that looks correct yes..

                            But its not working if your seeing mac of devices in 192.168.1..

                            Clear your arp table... Do they come back? trying pinging one of those 192.168.1 address from your client after you clear your arp.

                            BTW your rules on vlan 5 are WRONG!!! source would NEVER be pfsense on vlan 5 address.. Source would be vlan 5 net..

                            What did you set netgears IP too? You said you changed it.

                            What is the hardware of your pfsense box?
                            6DB311

                            That doesn't resolve as maker of networking gear..

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                              r79c @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                              Clear your arp table

                              cleared and not returned

                              cannot ping any 192.168.1 or 192.168.5

                              i have the following arp entries now

                              192.168.5.1
                              192.168.5.255
                              224.0.0.22
                              224.0.0.251
                              224.0.0.252
                              239.255.255.250
                              255.255.255.255

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                Ok that is better!

                                So simple test is sniff on pfsense vlan interface while you ping it from the client.. Do you see the ping?

                                BTW what hardware is the nic on pfsense? that mac doesn't resolve to anyone..

                                ping.jpg

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                                  r79c @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                  Do you see the ping?

                                  16:37:10.374829 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 36, length 40
                                  16:37:15.321366 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 37, length 40
                                  16:37:20.337599 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 38, length 40
                                  16:37:25.318515 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 39, length 40
                                  16:37:26.442815 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                                  16:37:27.009842 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                  16:37:27.463007 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                                  16:37:28.011221 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                  16:37:28.465757 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                                  16:37:29.013961 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                  16:37:29.468473 IP 192.168.5.50.53865 > 239.255.255.250.1900: UDP, length 174
                                  16:37:31.022413 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                  16:37:32.811702 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.5.1 (6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77) tell 192.168.5.50, length 46
                                  16:37:32.811707 ARP, Reply 192.168.5.1 is-at 6c:b3:11:1c:6c:77, length 28
                                  16:37:35.033636 IP 192.168.5.50.60396 > 192.168.5.1.53: UDP, length 46
                                  
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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    @r79c said in Netgear/Vlans/Pfsense:

                                    16:37:10.374829 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 36, length 40
                                    16:37:15.321366 IP 192.168.5.50 > 192.168.5.1: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 37, length 40

                                    Yup... So lets see your rules on on vlan 5 again... And do you have any rules in floating?

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                                      r79c @johnpoz
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                                      https://ibb.co/rs4tG8r

                                      https://ibb.co/zVDwqW4

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        So your blocking it with pfblocker... Disable those rules on floating as test!

                                        That firehol list contains rfc1918 address space!!

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                                          r79c @johnpoz
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                                          Ok I disabled those rules and disabled pfblocker for the time being.

                                          I set those rules up when I set up pfblocker but I was never 100% competent on how it is setup, I only set it up about two weeks ago....

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                            And - are you pinging?

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