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    fireodo @logan5247
    last edited by Jun 10, 2020, 8:09 AM

    @logan5247 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

    Anyone running 2.4.5-p1 yet? Already on 2.4.5, so I don't think there would be much of a chance for something to go wrong...
    https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-4-5-release-p1-now-available.html

    Here running on 2.4.5_p1 - since yesterday and I cannot see any issue ...☺

    Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
    SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
    pfsense 2.7.2 CE
    Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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      daemonix
      last edited by Jun 14, 2020, 10:07 AM

      Do you run ntopng on apu2c4 without problems on 200-300mbit lines (20mbit ish upload)? (I run pfBlocker, openVPN client and an openVPN server... mo snort etc)

      Is this too heavy on the CPU?

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        Qinn @daemonix
        last edited by Qinn Jun 14, 2020, 1:53 PM Jun 14, 2020, 11:04 AM

        @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries works good.

        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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          fireodo @Qinn
          last edited by Jun 14, 2020, 1:54 PM

          @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

          @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries work good.

          Hmm, strange here - i uninstalled ntopng because every time I saved the settings I got a core dump (but ntopng has continued to work).

          Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
          SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
          pfsense 2.7.2 CE
          Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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            Qinn @fireodo
            last edited by Jun 14, 2020, 2:00 PM

            @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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              fireodo @Qinn
              last edited by fireodo Jun 14, 2020, 2:07 PM Jun 14, 2020, 2:03 PM

              @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

              @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

              I am speaking from the newest version (0.8.13_5) and its the "core dump" what make me uninstall it - not the speed.

              Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
              SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
              pfsense 2.7.2 CE
              Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                Qinn @fireodo
                last edited by Qinn Jun 14, 2020, 2:10 PM Jun 14, 2020, 2:10 PM

                @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                  fireodo @Qinn
                  last edited by Jun 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

                  @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                  @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                  Lucky you - it was running fine here too, (excluding the core dump on saving settings) - maybe there is something in my configuration that is conflicting with it when I'm saving the settings ...

                  Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                  SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                  pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                  Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                    Qinn @fireodo
                    last edited by Qinn Jun 14, 2020, 2:24 PM Jun 14, 2020, 2:20 PM

                    @fireodo Just a guess as default Ntopng keeps settings, maybe, uncheck this and then remove the package, then reinstall, maybe vanilla works fine 😉

                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                      fireodo @Qinn
                      last edited by fireodo Jun 14, 2020, 2:29 PM Jun 14, 2020, 2:28 PM

                      @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                      @fireodo Just a guess as default Ntopng keeps settings, maybe, uncheck this and then remove the package, then reinstall, maybe vanilla works fine 😉

                      It was a vanilla install when that core dump issue occure - i gave it up ... ☹
                      (And btw: its really overkill for my network)

                      Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                      SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                      pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                      Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                        daemonix
                        last edited by Jun 17, 2020, 11:52 AM

                        I got some core dumps here again... I think its quite heavy for 24/7 use.

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                          Qinn @daemonix
                          last edited by Jun 17, 2020, 11:54 AM

                          @daemonix It's running 24/7 since 6 months never had a problem with it.

                          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                            daemonix @Qinn
                            last edited by Jun 17, 2020, 12:02 PM

                            @Qinn Ill give it another go. all updated but got a core dump.

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                              fireodo @Qinn
                              last edited by Jun 17, 2020, 12:06 PM

                              @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                              @daemonix It's running 24/7 since 6 months never had a problem with it.

                              A little question: Have you CPU Boost activated?
                              https://github.com/pcengines/apu2-documentation/blob/master/docs/apu_CPU_boost.md

                              Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                              SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                              pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                              Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                                apu2
                                last edited by Jun 17, 2020, 12:51 PM

                                I recently bought a new APU2 board and installed pfsense 2.4.5 release. BIOS is coreboot version v4.11.0.6.
                                I had mSATA 64G drive. Installation was easy and straightforward.
                                This setup was runinig fine for about 1 month after which I started to get the following issues.

                                Disk started to show some timeouts and disconnects.
                                I can login to the system but cannot do anything that require disk read.

                                I am trying to understand if this is a hardware of software issue. Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot the issue further?
                                PC engines mention bootloader parameter hint.ahci.0.msi="0" but it is applicable only for bios version older than 4.6.7

                                igb1: link state changed to UP
                                ahcich0: Timeout on slot 1 port 0
                                ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00000002 ss 00000000 rs 00000002 tfd d0 serr 00000000 cmd 0040e117
                                ahcich0: Timeout on slot 18 port 0
                                ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00040000 ss 00000000 rs 00040000 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f217
                                ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000080)
                                ahcich0: Timeout on slot 19 port 0
                                ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00080000 ss 00000000 rs 00080000 tfd 80 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f317
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA_IDENTIFY. ACB: ec 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Retrying command
                                ahcich0: Timeout on slot 20 port 0
                                ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00100000 ss 00000000 rs 00100000 tfd 1d0 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f417
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA_IDENTIFY. ACB: ec 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted
                                ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000180)
                                ahcich0: Timeout on slot 21 port 0
                                ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00200000 ss 00000000 rs 00200000 tfd 180 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f517
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA_IDENTIFY. ACB: ec 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retry was blocked
                                ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
                                ada0: <MT-64 H180516> s/n 978081794579 detached
                                g_vfs_done():ufsid/58bf2d4f649f8ad1[READ(offset=30607212544, length=65536)]error = 6
                                vnode_pager_generic_getpages_done: I/O read error 5
                                vnode_pager_generic_getpages_done: I/O read error 5
                                ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000180)
                                ahcich0: Timeout on slot 22 port 0
                                ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00400000 ss 00000000 rs 00400000 tfd 180 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f617
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA_IDENTIFY. ACB: ec 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
                                (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Retrying command
                                ahcich0: Timeout on slot 23 port 0
                                ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00800000 ss 00000000 rs 00800000 tfd 1d0 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f717
                                

                                thanks!

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                                  fireodo @apu2
                                  last edited by Jun 17, 2020, 1:00 PM

                                  @apu2 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                  I recently bought a new APU2 board and installed pfsense 2.4.5 release. BIOS is coreboot version v4.11.0.6.
                                  I had mSATA 64G drive. Installation was easy and straightforward.
                                  This setup was runinig fine for about 1 month after which I started to get the following issues.

                                  Disk started to show some timeouts and disconnects.
                                  I can login to the system but cannot do anything that require disk read.

                                  I am trying to understand if this is a hardware of software issue. Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot the issue further?

                                  You can try to boot in single mode and do a "/sbin/fsck -y / " (repeat until no error show)

                                  PC engines mention bootloader parameter hint.ahci.0.msi="0" but it is applicable only for bios version older than 4.6.7

                                  igb1: link state changed to UP
                                  ahcich0: Timeout on slot 1 port 0
                                  

                                  On the other hand it is possible that your SSD is dying ... make a backup of your config for the case that you have to change the drive.

                                  thanks!

                                  You're welcome,

                                  fireodo

                                  Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                  SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                  pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                                  Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                                    Qinn @fireodo
                                    last edited by Jun 17, 2020, 3:19 PM

                                    I would check the advice from @fireodo; "A little question: Have you CPU Boost activated?" as this makes a lot off difference.

                                    Then I may add, always install pfSense using the ZFS filesystem not the UFS (default). For a few reasons;

                                    TRIM is default enabled (I am using mSATA), but this can also be enabled manually on a UFS filesystem, but the most important reason I advice to use ZFS is that it can 100% safegard you against bit errors, because the APU2 has ECC memory 😉

                                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                      apu2
                                      last edited by Jun 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

                                      @fireodo @Qinn Thanks both!
                                      Good advise for my next ssd :)

                                      Drive actually died and no longer detected by the system. Tried reseating it a few times but no lock.
                                      I am surprised SMART didn't detected anything.
                                      Is there any meaning to run smartd for SSDs?

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by stephenw10 Jun 17, 2020, 5:53 PM Jun 17, 2020, 5:49 PM

                                        Yes. It will show the drive wear level as spare blocks are used for example. It can't show if the controller is about to die.

                                        Steve

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                                          sikita
                                          last edited by Jun 19, 2020, 6:34 AM

                                          Hi guys, are you running pfSense with /var & /tmp in RAM DISKS enabled on APU2?

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