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    FLOK @VAMike
    last edited by Jun 5, 2020, 6:51 AM

    @VAMike
    Your message encouraged me to do research...
    And you were so damn right.
    My computer's stuck on the switch of an IP phone.
    It throttles traffic to 100Mbits.

    I am so sorry to have wasted your time :-(

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      Veldkornet @kinch
      last edited by Jun 5, 2020, 7:01 AM

      @kinch said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

      @DaddyGo

      I've examined it and found the following:

      iperf3 LAB
      No matter if APU2/3/4 I get a throughput with single connection of 750-850Mbit/s (LAN 2 OPT)

      With 2 or more connections I get about 945Mbit/s.

      A Speedtest.net gives the value 934Mbit/s UP/DOWN

      I have tested the following BIOS versions:
      V4.9.0.2
      V4.11.0.2
      V4.12.0.1

      All the same.

      But what I noticed, tested on APU2 and APU3, that pfsense version 2.4.5 does not reach the same throughput as 2.4.4-p3.
      With Single Connection pfsense 2.4.5 reaches "only" about 400-500Mbit/s. With pfsense 2.4.5 I can only reach 940Mbps with 8 connections.

      I also noted something weird with 2.4.5.

      My iPerf speeds were also much lower than normal. What I did to fix it was:

      • disabling hardware offload (check the check boxes)
      • save, no reboot (iPerf results the same)
      • re-enabling hardware offload (clear the check boxes)
      • save, no reboot (iPerf results back up to the expected levels)

      The only thing I did between having good iPerf results and slow ones was reboot the device. It's as if after a reboot, it forgot that hardware offload was enabled, and I just needed to set it again.

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        DaddyGo @Veldkornet
        last edited by DaddyGo Jun 5, 2020, 9:15 AM Jun 5, 2020, 8:28 AM

        @Veldkornet

        • pity this to argue further.... (LRO / TSO / etc.)
          the forum is full of why you need to disable "offloading"

        if you use pfSense for routing, (*****not recommended!!! *****), but just think of IPS netmap
        ******https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/config/advanced-setup.html#Networking

        and @jimp https://forum.netgate.com/topic/42669/tso-and-lro-on-alix-boards

        netmap it will not start properly unless they are disabled

        all forum threads that belong here, it starts with this - disabling this features first -

        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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          DaddyGo @kinch
          last edited by DaddyGo Jun 5, 2020, 9:07 AM Jun 5, 2020, 8:43 AM

          @kinch

          let's wait for this 2.4.5-p1 ☺
          but indeed we also experienced some difference, but not significant

          just a suggestion instead of speedtest_net, I prefer to use this nperf.com
          it uses a much more serious algorithm to saturate, ergo the measurement more accurate

          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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            DaddyGo @Veldkornet
            last edited by DaddyGo Jun 5, 2020, 10:02 AM Jun 5, 2020, 9:54 AM

            @Veldkornet

            "The only thing I did between having good iPerf results and slow ones was reboot the device. It's as if after a reboot, it forgot that hardware offload was enabled, and I just needed to set it again."

            so, ☺

            enabling / disabling these functions will in any case require a restart!
            without it it makes no sense, thus, the test is not relevant either

            if the function is still active after a restart, this must be disabled with this way

            /boot/loader.conf.local

            hw.bce.tso_enable=0 or 1
            hw.bce.lro_enable=0 or 1 ......... etc.

            edit: bce / igb / etc.

            test method after reboot:

            ifconfig igbX | grep CSUM

            X= 1 ,2, 3, 4, or........

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            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @FLOK
              last edited by Jun 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

              @FLOK said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

              My computer's stuck on the switch of an IP phone.
              It throttles traffic to 100Mbits.

              Ha, I have done exactly that before. 😉

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                FLOK @stephenw10
                last edited by Jun 8, 2020, 12:36 PM

                @stephenw10
                the joke is, that the pc still shows gigabit, although the performance is not reached ☹

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Jun 8, 2020, 3:01 PM

                  Ooo ouch. Yeah I didn't have that excuse. 🙄

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                    logan5247
                    last edited by Jun 10, 2020, 12:47 AM

                    Anyone running 2.4.5-p1 yet? Already on 2.4.5, so I don't think there would be much of a chance for something to go wrong...
                    https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-4-5-release-p1-now-available.html

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                      fireodo @logan5247
                      last edited by Jun 10, 2020, 8:09 AM

                      @logan5247 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                      Anyone running 2.4.5-p1 yet? Already on 2.4.5, so I don't think there would be much of a chance for something to go wrong...
                      https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-4-5-release-p1-now-available.html

                      Here running on 2.4.5_p1 - since yesterday and I cannot see any issue ...☺

                      Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                      SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                      pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                      Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                        daemonix
                        last edited by Jun 14, 2020, 10:07 AM

                        Do you run ntopng on apu2c4 without problems on 200-300mbit lines (20mbit ish upload)? (I run pfBlocker, openVPN client and an openVPN server... mo snort etc)

                        Is this too heavy on the CPU?

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                          Qinn @daemonix
                          last edited by Qinn Jun 14, 2020, 1:53 PM Jun 14, 2020, 11:04 AM

                          @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries works good.

                          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                            fireodo @Qinn
                            last edited by Jun 14, 2020, 1:54 PM

                            @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                            @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries work good.

                            Hmm, strange here - i uninstalled ntopng because every time I saved the settings I got a core dump (but ntopng has continued to work).

                            Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                            SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                            pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                            Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                              Qinn @fireodo
                              last edited by Jun 14, 2020, 2:00 PM

                              @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

                              Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                              Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                              Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                fireodo @Qinn
                                last edited by fireodo Jun 14, 2020, 2:07 PM Jun 14, 2020, 2:03 PM

                                @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

                                I am speaking from the newest version (0.8.13_5) and its the "core dump" what make me uninstall it - not the speed.

                                Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                                Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                                  Qinn @fireodo
                                  last edited by Qinn Jun 14, 2020, 2:10 PM Jun 14, 2020, 2:10 PM

                                  @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                                  Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                  Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                  Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                    fireodo @Qinn
                                    last edited by Jun 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

                                    @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                    @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                                    Lucky you - it was running fine here too, (excluding the core dump on saving settings) - maybe there is something in my configuration that is conflicting with it when I'm saving the settings ...

                                    Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                    SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                    pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                                    Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                                      Qinn @fireodo
                                      last edited by Qinn Jun 14, 2020, 2:24 PM Jun 14, 2020, 2:20 PM

                                      @fireodo Just a guess as default Ntopng keeps settings, maybe, uncheck this and then remove the package, then reinstall, maybe vanilla works fine 😉

                                      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                        fireodo @Qinn
                                        last edited by fireodo Jun 14, 2020, 2:29 PM Jun 14, 2020, 2:28 PM

                                        @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                        @fireodo Just a guess as default Ntopng keeps settings, maybe, uncheck this and then remove the package, then reinstall, maybe vanilla works fine 😉

                                        It was a vanilla install when that core dump issue occure - i gave it up ... ☹
                                        (And btw: its really overkill for my network)

                                        Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                        SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                        pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                                        Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                                          daemonix
                                          last edited by Jun 17, 2020, 11:52 AM

                                          I got some core dumps here again... I think its quite heavy for 24/7 use.

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