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      FLOK @VAMike
      last edited by

      @VAMike
      Your message encouraged me to do research...
      And you were so damn right.
      My computer's stuck on the switch of an IP phone.
      It throttles traffic to 100Mbits.

      I am so sorry to have wasted your time :-(

      2020-06-05 08_43_49-Ihr Speedtest für Glasfaser + DSL Internet – Deutsche Glasfaser.png

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        Veldkornet @kinch
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        @kinch said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

        @DaddyGo

        I've examined it and found the following:

        iperf3 LAB
        No matter if APU2/3/4 I get a throughput with single connection of 750-850Mbit/s (LAN 2 OPT)

        With 2 or more connections I get about 945Mbit/s.

        A Speedtest.net gives the value 934Mbit/s UP/DOWN

        I have tested the following BIOS versions:
        V4.9.0.2
        V4.11.0.2
        V4.12.0.1

        All the same.

        But what I noticed, tested on APU2 and APU3, that pfsense version 2.4.5 does not reach the same throughput as 2.4.4-p3.
        With Single Connection pfsense 2.4.5 reaches "only" about 400-500Mbit/s. With pfsense 2.4.5 I can only reach 940Mbps with 8 connections.

        I also noted something weird with 2.4.5.

        My iPerf speeds were also much lower than normal. What I did to fix it was:

        • disabling hardware offload (check the check boxes)
        • save, no reboot (iPerf results the same)
        • re-enabling hardware offload (clear the check boxes)
        • save, no reboot (iPerf results back up to the expected levels)

        The only thing I did between having good iPerf results and slow ones was reboot the device. It's as if after a reboot, it forgot that hardware offload was enabled, and I just needed to set it again.

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        • DaddyGoD
          DaddyGo @Veldkornet
          last edited by DaddyGo

          @Veldkornet

          • pity this to argue further.... (LRO / TSO / etc.)
            the forum is full of why you need to disable "offloading"

          if you use pfSense for routing, (*****not recommended!!! *****), but just think of IPS netmap
          ******https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/config/advanced-setup.html#Networking

          and @jimp https://forum.netgate.com/topic/42669/tso-and-lro-on-alix-boards

          netmap it will not start properly unless they are disabled

          all forum threads that belong here, it starts with this - disabling this features first -

          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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          • DaddyGoD
            DaddyGo @kinch
            last edited by DaddyGo

            @kinch

            let's wait for this 2.4.5-p1 ☺
            but indeed we also experienced some difference, but not significant

            just a suggestion instead of speedtest_net, I prefer to use this nperf.com
            it uses a much more serious algorithm to saturate, ergo the measurement more accurate

            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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              DaddyGo @Veldkornet
              last edited by DaddyGo

              @Veldkornet

              "The only thing I did between having good iPerf results and slow ones was reboot the device. It's as if after a reboot, it forgot that hardware offload was enabled, and I just needed to set it again."

              so, ☺

              enabling / disabling these functions will in any case require a restart!
              without it it makes no sense, thus, the test is not relevant either

              if the function is still active after a restart, this must be disabled with this way

              /boot/loader.conf.local

              hw.bce.tso_enable=0 or 1
              hw.bce.lro_enable=0 or 1 ......... etc.

              edit: bce / igb / etc.

              test method after reboot:

              ifconfig igbX | grep CSUM

              X= 1 ,2, 3, 4, or........

              f4f2790c-3cd5-4045-b319-595bb24a721b-image.png

              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @FLOK
                last edited by

                @FLOK said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                My computer's stuck on the switch of an IP phone.
                It throttles traffic to 100Mbits.

                Ha, I have done exactly that before. 😉

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                  FLOK @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10
                  the joke is, that the pc still shows gigabit, although the performance is not reached ☹

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Ooo ouch. Yeah I didn't have that excuse. 🙄

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                      logan5247
                      last edited by

                      Anyone running 2.4.5-p1 yet? Already on 2.4.5, so I don't think there would be much of a chance for something to go wrong...
                      https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-4-5-release-p1-now-available.html

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                      • fireodoF
                        fireodo @logan5247
                        last edited by

                        @logan5247 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                        Anyone running 2.4.5-p1 yet? Already on 2.4.5, so I don't think there would be much of a chance for something to go wrong...
                        https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-4-5-release-p1-now-available.html

                        Here running on 2.4.5_p1 - since yesterday and I cannot see any issue ...☺

                        Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                        SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                        pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                        Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                          daemonix
                          last edited by

                          Do you run ntopng on apu2c4 without problems on 200-300mbit lines (20mbit ish upload)? (I run pfBlocker, openVPN client and an openVPN server... mo snort etc)

                          Is this too heavy on the CPU?

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                            Qinn @daemonix
                            last edited by Qinn

                            @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries works good.

                            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                              fireodo @Qinn
                              last edited by

                              @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                              @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries work good.

                              Hmm, strange here - i uninstalled ntopng because every time I saved the settings I got a core dump (but ntopng has continued to work).

                              Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                              SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                              pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                              Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                Qinn @fireodo
                                last edited by

                                @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

                                Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                  fireodo @Qinn
                                  last edited by fireodo

                                  @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                  @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

                                  I am speaking from the newest version (0.8.13_5) and its the "core dump" what make me uninstall it - not the speed.

                                  Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                  SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                  pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                  Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                    Qinn @fireodo
                                    last edited by Qinn

                                    @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                      fireodo @Qinn
                                      last edited by

                                      @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                      @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                                      Lucky you - it was running fine here too, (excluding the core dump on saving settings) - maybe there is something in my configuration that is conflicting with it when I'm saving the settings ...

                                      Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                      SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                      pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                      Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                        Qinn @fireodo
                                        last edited by Qinn

                                        @fireodo Just a guess as default Ntopng keeps settings, maybe, uncheck this and then remove the package, then reinstall, maybe vanilla works fine 😉

                                        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                        • fireodoF
                                          fireodo @Qinn
                                          last edited by fireodo

                                          @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                          @fireodo Just a guess as default Ntopng keeps settings, maybe, uncheck this and then remove the package, then reinstall, maybe vanilla works fine 😉

                                          It was a vanilla install when that core dump issue occure - i gave it up ... ☹
                                          (And btw: its really overkill for my network)

                                          Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                          SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                          pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                          Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                            daemonix
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                                            I got some core dumps here again... I think its quite heavy for 24/7 use.

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