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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Ooo ouch. Yeah I didn't have that excuse. ๐Ÿ™„

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        logan5247
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        Anyone running 2.4.5-p1 yet? Already on 2.4.5, so I don't think there would be much of a chance for something to go wrong...
        https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-4-5-release-p1-now-available.html

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        • fireodoF
          fireodo @logan5247
          last edited by

          @logan5247 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

          Anyone running 2.4.5-p1 yet? Already on 2.4.5, so I don't think there would be much of a chance for something to go wrong...
          https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-4-5-release-p1-now-available.html

          Here running on 2.4.5_p1 - since yesterday and I cannot see any issue ...โ˜บ

          Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
          SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
          pfsense 2.8.0 CE
          Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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            daemonix
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            Do you run ntopng on apu2c4 without problems on 200-300mbit lines (20mbit ish upload)? (I run pfBlocker, openVPN client and an openVPN server... mo snort etc)

            Is this too heavy on the CPU?

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            • QinnQ
              Qinn @daemonix
              last edited by Qinn

              @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries works good.

              Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
              Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
              Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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              • fireodoF
                fireodo @Qinn
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                @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries work good.

                Hmm, strange here - i uninstalled ntopng because every time I saved the settings I got a core dump (but ntopng has continued to work).

                Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                • QinnQ
                  Qinn @fireodo
                  last edited by

                  @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

                  Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                  Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                  Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                  • fireodoF
                    fireodo @Qinn
                    last edited by fireodo

                    @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                    @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

                    I am speaking from the newest version (0.8.13_5) and its the "core dump" what make me uninstall it - not the speed.

                    Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                    SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                    pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                    Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                    • QinnQ
                      Qinn @fireodo
                      last edited by Qinn

                      @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                      • fireodoF
                        fireodo @Qinn
                        last edited by

                        @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                        @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                        Lucky you - it was running fine here too, (excluding the core dump on saving settings) - maybe there is something in my configuration that is conflicting with it when I'm saving the settings ...

                        Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                        SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                        pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                        Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                        • QinnQ
                          Qinn @fireodo
                          last edited by Qinn

                          @fireodo Just a guess as default Ntopng keeps settings, maybe, uncheck this and then remove the package, then reinstall, maybe vanilla works fine ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                          • fireodoF
                            fireodo @Qinn
                            last edited by fireodo

                            @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                            @fireodo Just a guess as default Ntopng keeps settings, maybe, uncheck this and then remove the package, then reinstall, maybe vanilla works fine ๐Ÿ˜‰

                            It was a vanilla install when that core dump issue occure - i gave it up ... โ˜น
                            (And btw: its really overkill for my network)

                            Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                            SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                            pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                            Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                              daemonix
                              last edited by

                              I got some core dumps here again... I think its quite heavy for 24/7 use.

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                                Qinn @daemonix
                                last edited by

                                @daemonix It's running 24/7 since 6 months never had a problem with it.

                                Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                  daemonix @Qinn
                                  last edited by

                                  @Qinn Ill give it another go. all updated but got a core dump.

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                                  • fireodoF
                                    fireodo @Qinn
                                    last edited by

                                    @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                    @daemonix It's running 24/7 since 6 months never had a problem with it.

                                    A little question: Have you CPU Boost activated?
                                    https://github.com/pcengines/apu2-documentation/blob/master/docs/apu_CPU_boost.md

                                    Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                    SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                    pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                    Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                      apu2
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                                      I recently bought a new APU2 board and installed pfsense 2.4.5 release. BIOS is coreboot version v4.11.0.6.
                                      I had mSATA 64G drive. Installation was easy and straightforward.
                                      This setup was runinig fine for about 1 month after which I started to get the following issues.

                                      Disk started to show some timeouts and disconnects.
                                      I can login to the system but cannot do anything that require disk read.

                                      I am trying to understand if this is a hardware of software issue. Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot the issue further?
                                      PC engines mention bootloader parameter hint.ahci.0.msi="0" but it is applicable only for bios version older than 4.6.7

                                      igb1: link state changed to UP
                                      ahcich0: Timeout on slot 1 port 0
                                      ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00000002 ss 00000000 rs 00000002 tfd d0 serr 00000000 cmd 0040e117
                                      ahcich0: Timeout on slot 18 port 0
                                      ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00040000 ss 00000000 rs 00040000 tfd c0 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f217
                                      ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000080)
                                      ahcich0: Timeout on slot 19 port 0
                                      ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00080000 ss 00000000 rs 00080000 tfd 80 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f317
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA_IDENTIFY. ACB: ec 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Retrying command
                                      ahcich0: Timeout on slot 20 port 0
                                      ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00100000 ss 00000000 rs 00100000 tfd 1d0 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f417
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA_IDENTIFY. ACB: ec 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retries exhausted
                                      ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000180)
                                      ahcich0: Timeout on slot 21 port 0
                                      ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00200000 ss 00000000 rs 00200000 tfd 180 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f517
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA_IDENTIFY. ACB: ec 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Error 5, Retry was blocked
                                      ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
                                      ada0: <MT-64 H180516> s/n 978081794579 detached
                                      g_vfs_done():ufsid/58bf2d4f649f8ad1[READ(offset=30607212544, length=65536)]error = 6
                                      vnode_pager_generic_getpages_done: I/O read error 5
                                      vnode_pager_generic_getpages_done: I/O read error 5
                                      ahcich0: AHCI reset: device not ready after 31000ms (tfd = 00000180)
                                      ahcich0: Timeout on slot 22 port 0
                                      ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00400000 ss 00000000 rs 00400000 tfd 180 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f617
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): ATA_IDENTIFY. ACB: ec 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): CAM status: Command timeout
                                      (aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): Retrying command
                                      ahcich0: Timeout on slot 23 port 0
                                      ahcich0: is 00000000 cs 00800000 ss 00000000 rs 00800000 tfd 1d0 serr 00000000 cmd 0040f717
                                      

                                      thanks!

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                                      • fireodoF
                                        fireodo @apu2
                                        last edited by

                                        @apu2 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                        I recently bought a new APU2 board and installed pfsense 2.4.5 release. BIOS is coreboot version v4.11.0.6.
                                        I had mSATA 64G drive. Installation was easy and straightforward.
                                        This setup was runinig fine for about 1 month after which I started to get the following issues.

                                        Disk started to show some timeouts and disconnects.
                                        I can login to the system but cannot do anything that require disk read.

                                        I am trying to understand if this is a hardware of software issue. Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot the issue further?

                                        You can try to boot in single mode and do a "/sbin/fsck -y / " (repeat until no error show)

                                        PC engines mention bootloader parameter hint.ahci.0.msi="0" but it is applicable only for bios version older than 4.6.7

                                        igb1: link state changed to UP
                                        ahcich0: Timeout on slot 1 port 0
                                        

                                        On the other hand it is possible that your SSD is dying ... make a backup of your config for the case that you have to change the drive.

                                        thanks!

                                        You're welcome,

                                        fireodo

                                        Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                        SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                        pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                        Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                          Qinn @fireodo
                                          last edited by

                                          I would check the advice from @fireodo; "A little question: Have you CPU Boost activated?" as this makes a lot off difference.

                                          Then I may add, always install pfSense using the ZFS filesystem not the UFS (default). For a few reasons;

                                          TRIM is default enabled (I am using mSATA), but this can also be enabled manually on a UFS filesystem, but the most important reason I advice to use ZFS is that it can 100% safegard you against bit errors, because the APU2 has ECC memory ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                            apu2
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                                            @fireodo @Qinn Thanks both!
                                            Good advise for my next ssd :)

                                            Drive actually died and no longer detected by the system. Tried reseating it a few times but no lock.
                                            I am surprised SMART didn't detected anything.
                                            Is there any meaning to run smartd for SSDs?

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