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      microkid
      last edited by

      checked, but there is no crash dump in /var/crash. So it really seems the nic's just froze, as there was no way to communicate with pfSense anymore in any way.

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      • DaddyGoD
        DaddyGo @microkid
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        @microkid

        if there was a problem with the NIC, you would also see it from the shell
        the NIC is not a separate animal in your pfSense box that lives a separate life 😉

        so observation remains when the collapse occurs.... (via shell)

        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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          Impatient
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          Disable all those package's and try it for a period of time.

          Probably using all the memory when Snort or pfBlocker update's.

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            microkid
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            Memory never comes above 50% for the last 2 weeks.

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            • DaddyGoD
              DaddyGo @microkid
              last edited by

              @microkid

              believe me it's just a guess from now on
              one thing you can do is throw up a Linux on it and pressure it a hard hardware stress test

              -or you wait until the next collapse

              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                DaddyGo @microkid
                last edited by DaddyGo

                @microkid

                +++++
                by the way @Impatient is trying to tell you that updating the described packages has high memory usage ...
                well, you don't even see these when they happen and the system crashes (randomly)

                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                  microkid
                  last edited by

                  Just ran a stress test for 10 minutes.
                  stress-ng --metrics --cpu 4 --vm 4 --vm-bytes 2G --io 2

                  CPU 100%, mem 99%. Rock stable, not a glitch. Still being able to download at 250Mbps.

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                  • DaddyGoD
                    DaddyGo @microkid
                    last edited by

                    @microkid

                    yes these mistakes are the worst
                    like looking for a needle in a haystack

                    I would otherwise sharpen the test to network transmission....

                    since the CPU and MEM test is good in the short term, but think about it if it’s a longer term thing
                    for example, a thermal heat run error and only occurs if the temperature on one of the active elements on the MOBO is higher for a long time

                    Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                    (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                      microkid @DaddyGo
                      last edited by

                      @DaddyGo Good point. But the load on the device is usually very low. It's just an home router/firewall. CPU is normally <5% and memory around 40. With my usage, I don't expect high temperatures very soon :)

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                      • DaddyGoD
                        DaddyGo @microkid
                        last edited by

                        @microkid

                        what you are writing about is a relative state of rest
                        routing does not require power machines 😉

                        I understand all this and and I know the pfSense resource needs..
                        I have seen huge pfBlockerNG lists loading with 98% CPU and 4GB RAM usage (on APU 4d4 board)
                        it was of course an overloaded pfSense box and an unreasonably large list

                        this can happen when you are not supervising the box and not seeing it

                        but eventually kills the OP system
                        it randomly occurs, as your problem

                        Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                        (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                          microkid
                          last edited by

                          I understand. However, pfBlockerNG is updating every hour, as are more things. The monitor log does show a little increase on memory usage at that moment, nothing else. Will keep an eye on it.

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                          • DaddyGoD
                            DaddyGo @microkid
                            last edited by

                            @microkid

                            hard, hard...

                            it really remains to seize the moment and and you can do any investigation when the incident happens.
                            for now - because nowhere to find anything (crash report, suspicious logs) you can only wait.

                            BTW: I don't think that pfSense problem is this...

                            Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                            (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                            • DaddyGoD
                              DaddyGo @microkid
                              last edited by

                              @microkid

                              one more idea:
                              what about the latest BIOS?
                              since the ACPI FW code can cause such a stupid situation

                              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                microkid
                                last edited by

                                The device is on the lastest bios from 2018. No newer bios was released since then.

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                                • DaddyGoD
                                  DaddyGo @microkid
                                  last edited by

                                  @microkid

                                  this can be a problem (looks like old BIOS)
                                  what do you see after that(?):

                                  dmesg | grep 'error'
                                  dmesg | grep 'Firmware*'

                                  Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                  (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                    microkid
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                                    dmesg|grep 'error'
                                    module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (vesa, 0xffffffff812d9960, 0) error 19
                                    WARNING: /: mount pending error: blocks 48 files 2

                                    dmesg | grep 'Firmware*'
                                    <no output>

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                                    • DaddyGoD
                                      DaddyGo @microkid
                                      last edited by DaddyGo

                                      @microkid

                                      áááhhhááá,

                                      Are you on UFS?
                                      why not ZFS?

                                      this can be due to a lot of violent downtime (crash)

                                      the VESA error is fine (it's strong, hihihi), who also has a VGA controller on the MOBO
                                      but it is "WARNING: /: mount pending error: blocks 48 files 2"

                                      https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/mount-pending-error.67573/

                                      read it and then:

                                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/hardware/troubleshooting-disk-check-errors-fsck.html
                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKr1Dvan5I

                                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                                        microkid
                                        last edited by

                                        @DaddyGo said in pfSense nic freeze:

                                        WARNING: /: mount pending error: blocks 48 files 2"

                                        AFAIK, his is expected, as I had to pull the power to reboot the device. So the disk was not clean shutdown.

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                                        • DaddyGoD
                                          DaddyGo @microkid
                                          last edited by

                                          @microkid

                                          yes that's okay, I also wrote this too, but
                                          fix the file system before you scan further the box

                                          everything must be ruled out when searching for such an error..

                                          • poor disk fragmentation, a typical cause of random crashes

                                          I know you think of the NIC because the LEDs don't flash but like I said it could be part of a process

                                          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                                          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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