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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      What was the PHY his client was connected at? Going to be a big different if your at 866.7 and he was at 1300 (3 streams)... Which could be the case and could explain his 600 number.. Which seems pretty freaking high for a 867 PHY.. 70% real world bandwidth seems a bit unlikely.. But if at a 1300 phy, then 613 is more in the realistic area of the overhead for wifi.

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        mcury Rebel Alliance
        last edited by

        According to his post, he was using an Apple device, 866/866Mbps

        https://community.ui.com/releases/UAP-USW-Firmware-5-24-0-11950/74e3acca-9a22-4fa0-b76c-c654854638d4#comment/418023aa-13b2-43b0-b2b0-7fc94de12ad3

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          Well I don't buy his numbers to be honest... 70% real world seems a bit optimistic to be sure ;)

          If you want a real world test - load up all your devices doing speed tests at the same exact time.. What is the combined throughput.. That is what is going to matter.. Doing what mobile devices do - the difference between even 300 and 550 is not going to really be noticed by the user.. Is your music going to stream slower ;) Maybe your movie buffers for .2 seconds longer before it starts ;)

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @johnpoz
            last edited by

            @johnpoz said in Seamless roaming:

            Huh? That is not how unifi works at all.

            I wasn't talking about Unifi. I was referring to systems that use controllers for log in and controlling access to the APs. I first heard of this 11-12 years ago, but I've forgotten the company name. They referred to it as "blanket" WiFi. With that system, you had to use their switch and not just plain PoE.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
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              mcury Rebel Alliance
              last edited by

              Yes, you are completely right :)
              It's working flawless, roaming events happening, I can't really complain about it. :)

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              • QinnQ
                Qinn
                last edited by

                Anyone any idea how I can get more info on the following failure: "WPA Authentication Timeout/Failure", which is under "Association Failures" in the dashboard. Tried finding it under "Events" nothing and there is no data at all under Alerts.

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                  mcury Rebel Alliance @Qinn
                  last edited by

                  @Qinn You can try a cat /var/log/messages inside the AP, just ssh to it.

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                  • QinnQ
                    Qinn @mcury
                    last edited by

                    @mcury Good thinking, so did it and downloaded 4 files from

                    /var/log 
                    
                    fastapply
                    lastlog
                    messages
                    messages.old
                    

                    First 2 were empty in the last 2 the failure was not mentioned.

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                      mcury Rebel Alliance @Qinn
                      last edited by

                      @Qinn You would be getting something like this:

                      nanohd-BZ.v5.24.0# cat /var/log/messages | grep failure
                      Thu Jul 9 08:16:26 2020 user.info : stahtd[20294]: [STA-TRACKER].stahtd_dump_event(): {"auth_delta":"0","message_type":"STA_ASSOC_TRACKER","mac":"X:X:X:X:X:X","vap":"ra0","wpa_auth_failures":"1","event_type":"failure","assoc_status":"0","assoc_delta":"0","event_id":"2","auth_ts":"61017.241076"}

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                      • QinnQ
                        Qinn @mcury
                        last edited by Qinn

                        @mcury said in Seamless roaming:

                        cat /var/log/messages | grep failure

                        GRumpff 🙃 , did a

                        cat /var/log/messages | grep Failure
                        

                        instead of

                         cat /var/log/messages | grep failure
                        

                        Found it, thanks!!

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                          mcury Rebel Alliance
                          last edited by

                          Reverted the nanohd firmware back to the stable version, 4.3.20, and the 300Mbps limitation is no longer happening..
                          Just saying this for information purposes, not that the users will really notice that, but I'm getting now around 600.

                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                          • QinnQ
                            Qinn @mcury
                            last edited by

                            @mcury Thanks for the info

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              @mcury said in Seamless roaming:

                              but I'm getting now around 600

                              On a 866.7 PHY?

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                                mcury Rebel Alliance @johnpoz
                                last edited by

                                @johnpoz Yeap.
                                5GHz 80MHz, phone shows 866Mbps

                                https://community.ui.com/releases/UAP-USW-Firmware-5-24-0-11950/74e3acca-9a22-4fa0-b76c-c654854638d4#comment/68e879e7-bdd4-4450-8ddd-0d3bfeed5fa4

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz

                                  Looks more like 516 mbps to me ;) Which is actually realistic.. At 60% of PHY.. not 70..

                                  5]   0.00-10.03  sec   618 MBytes   516 Mbits/sec
                                  

                                  Just tested off my phone to speedtest getting 437mbps down on 5.24 firmware on AC-Pro with iphone Xr.. Showing a 780 PHY.. Or 56% which is good..

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                                    mcury Rebel Alliance @johnpoz
                                    last edited by

                                    @johnpoz True.. 516Mbits/s :)
                                    I'll stay on this 4.20 firmware for a while, it's working pretty well.
                                    In my scenario, with just one AP, the roaming events are working, no need to update to 5.24 at this time.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Yeah I didn't really see anything in the firmware related to my devices - but I just like to be on whatever is the latest.. Helps me know if actually seeing what others say they see on the threads over on unifi when they post the latest updates..

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                                        mcury Rebel Alliance @johnpoz
                                        last edited by

                                        Yeah, the release notes for this 5.24 release got a lot for the new wifi 6 devices..
                                        I usually get the latest too.
                                        What I will try to do next time, in case that I can hold myself to not update ☺ Is to wait a little longer, to read the forum feedback. But I doubt that I'll be able to hold myself 😀

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                                        • QinnQ
                                          Qinn
                                          last edited by Qinn

                                          There is no cpu/board temperature measurement on the Unifi AP's?

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            Maybe ask Ubiquiti?

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