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    Not getting properthroughput on gigabit devices. 200mbps when it should be at least 600mbps

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    • A Offline
      akuma1x @Berzerk
      last edited by akuma1x

      @Berzerk Yes, that's the problem.

      There has been some work for a driver, see here:
      https://forum.netgate.com/topic/135850/official-realtek-driver-binary-1-95-for-2-4-4-release

      I apologize, I haven't been following it all too closely, and I don't use any of it since I don't have any Realtek-equipped machines.

      Jeff

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      • DerelictD Offline
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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        Get something with two intel PCIe NICs, idk, a lower-power Core i3 maybe. Might as well get something that has AES-NI going. An Atom C2000 maybe. You'll get 600 down or it's not the firewall.

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          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @Berzerk
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          @Berzerk said in Not getting properthroughput on gigabit devices. 200mbps when it should be at least 600mbps:

          You have no idea just how cheap I am.

          Good, Cheap, Fast. Pick two.

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          • BerzerkB Offline
            Berzerk
            last edited by

            I choose cheap and fast? :)

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            • DerelictD Offline
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              It won't be good.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
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              • stephenw10S Offline
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by stephenw10

                You can try the alternate Realtek driver, nothing much to lose by doing so.

                Yeah some of it is clearly in the FreeBSD default driver. There were also a lot of different models supported by that driver with different levels of crappyness!
                Disable all the hardware off-loading, often broken for Realtek.

                A device needs to have Gigabit NICs if it needs to pass more then 100Mbps. That doesn't mean it can pass 1Gbps. The same is true for 10GbE ports currently.

                I would think you could well be hitting some limitation in the PCMCIA there if it's actually that and not cardbus or whatever was after that.

                Actually passing 600Mbps of just firewall & NAT doesn't require much CPU power. As I said I could do it with a C2D E4500 quite easily. An old school Atom D525 will pass ~500Mbps.

                Steve

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  @stephenw10 said in Not getting properthroughput on gigabit devices. 200mbps when it should be at least 600mbps:

                  some limitation in the PCMCIA

                  I haven't even seen a laptop with pcmcia in over 10 years for sure.. Use to be for like a modem, or a 10/100 ethernet.. Use to have some G wifi cards, etc.. I find it highly highly unlikely that anything pcmcia could push anything close to gig.. That your seeing even 200 surprises me.

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                  • DerelictD Offline
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    I threw away a PCMCIA bluetooth adapter yesterday.

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                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                    • BerzerkB Offline
                      Berzerk
                      last edited by

                      @Derelict I've got a core 2 quad with an onboard intel, and I'm ordering an intel pcie now. 6gb ram as well. Should work.

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                        JKnott @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10

                        All this talk about interfaces and brands has me wondering about my system.

                        Here's what I have
                        LAN bge0 (Broadcom?)
                        WAN re0 (Realtek?)
                        Test em0 (Intel?)

                        Perhaps I should swap WAN and Test. LAN is the mom board interface, which I'd rather have connected to the LAN.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                        • johnpozJ Offline
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Derelict
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                          @Derelict said in Not getting properthroughput on gigabit devices. 200mbps when it should be at least 600mbps:

                          I threw away a PCMCIA bluetooth adapter yesterday.

                          Look what I just found on one of my shelves - yeah this is going in the trash ;)

                          IMG_1187.jpg

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                            Berzerk @johnpoz
                            last edited by

                            @johnpoz
                            You guys would have a meltdown if you saw the Hardware I had lying around.

                            I had a 1/2speed cdrom that you loaded with a caddy for the longest time.

                            There was a 10MB 50lb MFM HD around here somewhere . . . I could open a museum.

                            Be thankful I set core 2 duos as the oldest I would let on the network.

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                              @Derelict So you drove/shipped that all the way to TN, just to throw it away - hehehhe

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                              • stephenw10S Offline
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @JKnott
                                last edited by

                                @JKnott said in Not getting properthroughput on gigabit devices. 200mbps when it should be at least 600mbps:

                                Perhaps I should swap WAN and Test.

                                Yup, I would.

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                                  JKnott @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz said in Not getting properthroughput on gigabit devices. 200mbps when it should be at least 600mbps:

                                  Look what I just found on one of my shelves - yeah this is going in the trash ;)

                                  I could have used that years ago, with my first ThinkPad. It came with 802.11b only WiFi, which I replaced with one capable of g. However, in the swap, I lost my dial up modem. 😦

                                  My current ThinkPad has n on 2.4 GHz only, though it's apparently possible to replace that with a dual band card.

                                  I also have a 10 Mb hub here. 😉

                                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    Why do you I still have these??

                                    wtf.jpg

                                    Best part of this thread is cleaned up some junk ;)

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                                    • stephenw10S Offline
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by stephenw10

                                      Haha.

                                      That's not even Cardbus... like 16bit? Rapido!

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                                        akuma1x @Berzerk
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                                        @Berzerk said in Not getting properthroughput on gigabit devices. 200mbps when it should be at least 600mbps:

                                        @johnpoz
                                        You guys would have a meltdown if you saw the Hardware I had lying around.

                                        Dude, time to throw stuff away! It's nostalgic and all, but old tech is rarely useful.

                                        Jeff

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                                        • BerzerkB Offline
                                          Berzerk @johnpoz
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz
                                          This is one of the cards I'm using.
                                          20200831_150618.jpg

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            Early part of the pandemic - looking for shit to do I cleaned out my shelves and threw away a bunch of junk... Got some frustration out breaking up some old hard drives.. The really not that old 2.5 disks are nice but too small in size to do anything with - you hit them with a hammer and platters just shatter like glass and its like they are full of pebbles or sand when you shake them.. That was fun! ;)

                                            Threw out some old floppy drives.. Just taking up space, etc..

                                            But these old pcmcia cards were on the top of my desk - and got missed.. They are in the trash now... heheheh.. Even the oldest laptop I have, which should prob throw out doesn't even have a slot for them.

                                            edit: Wow.. But just because it says gig on it, doesn't mean it can actually do anything close to it ;)

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