be honest are you worried about corona
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@provels said in be honest are you worried about corona:
Possibly. Graph from 1918 flu pandemic (US).
Jeah, jeah, they really just screened a series called "virus" on NAT GEO, I think 4 - 5 parts, I'm really in the picture...
you should also know that there was still cohesion among the peoples of the world at that time
just watch the example of smallpox -
@provels I too am retired, so am not required to go out every day. Because of my age I and my wife are at risk of complications of COVID-19. Even if I/we survived infection the lasting effects could basically render the rest of our lives a waste due to heart and lung damage.
I am taking this very seriously by making even limited social contact with almost no one outside my house.
I live in a US state (VT) that is doing an extremely good job at controlling the virus. Our governor and commissioner of health along with other state officials rely on data and science and to a lesser extent economics to make decisions about how to proceed. We have opened up much of our economy including schools and colleges with little change in virus levels. However, states surrounding us all have higher rates of infection so we are watching this closely.
Stay healthy everyone...
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I am also very worried.. But i just hope that its get better some day...
In Germany there is a second wave incoming... hopefully it gets under control soon enough.
Stay save everybody
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Second (third?) wave well underway here in USA. 120,000 cases per day, a million cases in TX. Reefer trucks being used as morgues in El Paso, TX.
"Just noticed my original bookmark for www.worldometers.info worldwide data...
"Coronavirus Update (Live): 73,438 Cases and 1,875 Deaths from COVID-19 Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer"
Worldwide. How quaint. And here were told it would go away after November 3rd.
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@provels You just can't make this stuff up. The claims would almost be funny, in a willfully stupid kind of way, if it didn't represent dead people. Pence, chairman of the virus task force, was going to go on vacation. He canceled it. Not to attend to the virus but to attend to the farce election fraud claims. Still not laughing...
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Alec Baldwin is refusing to leave Saturday Night Live. Now laughing.
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@jwj
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And we're back to the serious side.
The Sweden Poster Child for "What? Me worry?"
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avoid gathering, it's not too scary
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I am, personally, more worried about authoritarian government overreach than I am about the 'rona.
But, admittedly, you could
s/the 'rona/pretty much anything/.This is just the latest boogeyman. "Never let a crisis go to waste."
That graph is meaningless without knowing how many tests were conducted to arrive at those numbers.
15 days to slow the spread.
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@Derelict said in be honest are you worried about corona:
That graph is meaningless without knowing how many tests were conducted to arrive at those numbers.
Positivity is around 10%, so about 10x.
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Around?
Positivity rates, hospitalization rates, death rates.
Number of cases is meaningless.
And everyone is going to get it one way or another. Might as well live life.
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Bets are open : will the Dragon capsule come back empty ? ;)
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@Gertjan
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here in Italy the main problem is not so much the virus but rather the fact that hospitals are unable to manage patients because there are too many. they are balancing the lock down to prevent the collapse of the health system.
now the problem is if people are to die for starving or for the corona
bitter truth.. people who commit suicide out of desperation cost less -
Well yes
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Based on World-O-Meter at the time of writing:
Deaths = 258333
US Population = 331765033% of population = 258333*100/331765033 = 0.077%
Unless I'm missing something, it seems to be absoulutely crazy to locker everythong down.
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@guardian The fact that over 250 000 people in the US alone died is not worthy of a lockdown you think?
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@Netboy1990 said in be honest are you worried about corona:
@guardian The fact that over 250 000 people in the US alone died is not worthy of a lockdown you think?
This is a multi-variable equations -- not just eliminate Corona Virus at all costs.
People are going to die... fact of life... sad fact of life, but fact of life. The actions of government may change who is going to die, and increase the number who are going to die, but people will die. My heart goes out to anyone who has suffered a loss regardless of the reason--Dead is dead and it's a loss regardless of the reason.
The majority of people who died are elderly and/or have serious underlying conditions. It would make sense to have a strategy to protect these people--a strategy being recommended by the experts who are saying "NO MORE LOCKDOWN". Care for those who need special care and let the others get on with life.
How many millions of people are now out of work and /or bankrupt as a result of lockdowns? Homelessness, malnutrition, dispair and poverty kill people-either directly or due to suicide/substance abuse. How many deaths occured/will occur due to inability to affort medical attention because people lost their health insurance or are afraid to go to the hospital? How many children will be scarred for life due to abuse or neglect that would have been prevented by an open/functioning school system and parents that have the financial resources to feed and care for them (because the still have a job).
How much of the chaos is being caused by censoring doctors and preventing them from using good medical judgement based on real time clinical observations and patient outcomes. Consider the crimianally fraudulent attempt to discredit/prevent the use of Hydroxichloroquine (HCQ)--[Fake data/dosage at levels that are known to be unsafe.] There have been serveral groups of doctors saying that they are getting good results with existing medications, but instead of carefully examining what they are doing and trying to improve on it, they are being censored.
Last summer I heard Faucci say (paraphrased) we can't use drugs experimentally (referring to HCQ-even though it has been used for over 60 years and has a well known risk profile), but it's OK to give a vaccine (rushed to market with NO LONG TERM SAFETY TESTING-it's band new, so nobody can know it's safe) to MILLIONS of Americans. Does anybody beside me see a problem with this?
How people are/were being treated by the medical system is driving a lot of the deaths--false reporting, putting people on ventilators unnecessairly, delaying treatement, etc.
Cases are climbing, but the death rate is dropping. The vulnerable are either dead or being protected, and treatement may be getting better as well.
Then look at the testing, which depending on what expert you listen to creates between 30-90% false positives. I'm so tired of hearing cases, cases, cases.... heathy people being exposed once they get better increases the base of immune people who will no longer be spreading the virus.
If we bankrupt the worlds economy, then the few at the top with all the money get to buy the rest of the world out for pennies on the dolloar. That's what happened in the hollacaust... impose sanctions, create ecconomic hardship, confiscate weath, put people in ghetos/camps, and finally exterminate.
Ask anybody in 1936 Germany if they would believe what is going to happen over the next few years and they wouldn't have believed it. History repeats if we let it.
Government propaganda and the lack of balance and objectivity in the mainstream media is deplorable.
So I'm sorry that people died, but I don't think it's worth of a lockdown.
