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21.02 Sudden lockup

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    ffuentes @ryanbe
    last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:44 PM

    @ryanbe I had issues like this till I fully removed pfblocker.

    3 TVs online, zoom, the whole works. no crash.

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      ttfn32895
      last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:45 PM

      My brand new SG-3100 is bricked.
      my console readout is just his..
      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      what do i do now? please help

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        ffuentes @ryanbe
        last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:48 PM

        @ryanbe hahahaha! as soon as I hit submit, BAM! CRASH!

        LOL

        pfsense. Please fix this. This is going to cost me my job :(

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          TommyG @ffuentes
          last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 5:49 PM

          @ffuentes Welcome to Netgate- now you get to RMA the hardware to Texas and wait 4-5 weeks.

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            ffuentes @TommyG
            last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:08 PM

            @tommyg not sure I want to RMA. I think ill just switch to a new solution.
            I am in Texas my self but this whole debacle is causing a lot of pain. I am hoping they come up with a patch asap.

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              kphillips Administrator Netgate @ffuentes
              last edited by kphillips Feb 19, 2021, 6:32 PM Feb 19, 2021, 6:10 PM

              @ffuentes The fix for now is to revert to 2.4.5p1 until we fix the issue. Please open a ticket for the firmware link or send me a PM and I get it to you.

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                kphillips Administrator Netgate @TommyG
                last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:12 PM

                @tommyg Your comments aren't helpful in this thread. Our RMAs don't take 4-5 weeks unless you ship the device to us via horse and buggy and your statements aren't relevant to this thread anyway. Stay on topic unless you'd like your comments to be removed.

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                  ffuentes @kphillips
                  last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:12 PM

                  @kphillips Got it. Ill open a ticket.

                  Thanks!

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                    mcury @kphillips
                    last edited by mcury Feb 19, 2021, 6:26 PM Feb 19, 2021, 6:26 PM

                    @kphillips said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                    @ffuentes The fix is to revert to 2.4.5p1 until we fix the issue. Please open a ticket for the firmware link.

                    My sg-3100 is working fine with the current 21.02, without pfblockerng.
                    I guess my network throughput is not high enough to trigger the problem discussed earlier..
                    Noticed a few other problems, but my topic wasn't answered.. Like status>monitor>traffic being empty, but I can live with it..

                    Do you think I should downgrade to 2.4.5p1 as well?
                    Some comments above from devices console not responding anymore are kind of worrying me..
                    I mean, is there a chance to happen a complete failure in which I won't be able to reinstall?

                    dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                      kphillips Administrator Netgate @TommyG
                      last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:27 PM

                      @tommyg Personally attacking the support staff who are only trying to help troubleshoot and provide assistance is unacceptable. Enjoy your temporary ban.

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                        kphillips Administrator Netgate @mcury
                        last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:33 PM

                        @mcury If you aren't have any issues, no need to downgrade yet. Just make sure you have your USB console cable handy if you do run into an issue, but if you avoid reloading your firewall filter for now under heavy load, you should be fine. We should have a fixed update soon.

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                          mcury @kphillips
                          last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:34 PM

                          @kphillips said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                          @mcury If you aren't have any issues, no need to downgrade yet. Just make sure you have your USB console cable handy if you do run into an issue, but if you avoid reloading your firewall filter for now under heavy load, you should be fine. We should have a fixed update soon.

                          Great, thanks, I'll just wait then, it's working fine here.

                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                            ffuentes @kphillips
                            last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 6:41 PM

                            @kphillips I open the ticket.

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                              kphillips Administrator Netgate @ffuentes
                              last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:15 PM

                              @ffuentes PM me the ticket number, if you didn't get a reply already. I'll make sure to buzz you the firmware.

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                                alpharulez
                                last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:20 PM

                                I am having issues with snort on upgrade. have had to uninstall it completely.

                                dhcp issues to my access point - happens randomly where internet connection is steady but pfsense seems to kick off my access point which then thinks it is no longer in access point mode and reverts to routing starting to handout IPs... and loss of internet connectivity.

                                repeat issues with ntopng - had to reinstall - this seems to be stable-ish for the moment.

                                Now noticed that System/Package Manager/Available Packages is not showing any packages for me to install... especially Snort.

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                                  alpharulez @alpharulez
                                  last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:25 PM

                                  @alpharulez Forgot to add - no pfblockerng on my device... and it is a home setup so not a lot of traffic...

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                                    ffuentes @alpharulez
                                    last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:35 PM

                                    @alpharulez The issue is a general issue with pf reload. This means that snort will also contribute to a reload and cause the lock-up.

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                                      alpharulez @ffuentes
                                      last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

                                      @ffuentes thanks. it is uninstalled for the moment and running as a standard firewall... hope the fixe comes out quick so it can go back to a proper IPS...

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                                        rloeb
                                        last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:41 PM

                                        @kphillips Is there likely to be a patch in the "near future"?

                                        I have too many users to bring the network down while I load the firmware, reload the configuration, check the configuration to assure that it's reasonably correct, then go through the whole process again because I screwed it up, etc. Worse, they (and I) are working through the weekend to finish a critical deliverable.

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                                          ffuentes @rloeb
                                          last edited by Feb 19, 2021, 7:47 PM

                                          @rloeb welcome to my club except that I made the mistake... HAHAHA!

                                          My boss is getting impatient as I keep dropping, is a bit stable now so I am hoping I get through today at least.

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