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    • bmeeksB
      bmeeks @tman222
      last edited by bmeeks

      @tman222 said in How can I get this UDP relay package for casting across VLANs?:

      @stephenw10 - when installing the udpbroadcastrelay as a FreeBSD package, where on the file system is the binary located (will be needed for ShellCmd)? Thanks in advance.

      Usually binary executables from packages go in /usr/local/bin and configuration files in /usr/local/etc. Any shell script provided with the package typically winds up in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. But these are not hard and fast rules - a package creator might deviate from the standard practice.

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        Qinn @tman222
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        @tman222 Do a

        find / -name 'udpbroadcastrelay'
        

        and you will find it's location.

        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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        • QinnQ
          Qinn
          last edited by Qinn

          btw if you don't have the repository, then do a

           pkg add https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:12:amd64/quarterly/All/udpbroadcastrelay-0.3.b.txz
          

          for an AMD64 and then a

          rehash
          

          and a

           pkg info udpbroadcastrelay
          

          shows it is nicely installed

          [2.5.0-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/: pkg info udpbroadcastrelay
          udpbroadcastrelay-0.3.b
          Name           : udpbroadcastrelay
          Version        : 0.3.b
          Installed on   : Wed Mar 17 11:54:50 2021 CET
          Origin         : net/udpbroadcastrelay
          Architecture   : FreeBSD:12:amd64
          Prefix         : /usr/local
          Categories     : net
          Licenses       : GPLv2
          Maintainer     : m.muenz@gmail.com
          WWW            : https://github.com/marjohn56/udpbroadcastrelay
          Comment        : UDP multicast/unicast relayer
          Annotations    :
                  FreeBSD_version: 1202000
          Flat size      : 39.2KiB
          Description    :
          udpbroadcastrelay is a UDP multicast relayer. Its intended use is to
          rebroadbcast udp packets on a specific port across interfaces, be those
          interfaces physical or VLAN.
          
          It is used where devices such as Sonos or Sky are spread accross
          different subnets and are not able to detect the servers or devices.
          
          WWW: https://github.com/marjohn56/udpbroadcastrelay
          
          

          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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            Itar
            last edited by Itar

            Hi,

            can someone give me a hint how the command looks like for Shellcmd/command prompt (pfsense 2.5.0 / APU2C4)?
            With "find / -name 'udpbroadcastrelay'" I could find udpbroadcastrelay in "/usr/local/sbin/".
            With Putty and "/usr/local/sbin/udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 5353 --dev igb1 --dev igb1.12 --multicast 224.0.0.251 -s 1.1.1.1 -f > /dev/null" everything works perfectly but not in pfSene (command prompt) itself.

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              tman222 @Itar
              last edited by tman222

              @itar said in How can I get this UDP relay package for casting across VLANs?:

              Hi,

              can someone give me a hint how the command looks like for Shellcmd/command prompt (pfsense 2.5.0 / APU2C4)?
              With "find / -name 'udpbroadcastrelay'" I could find udpbroadcastrelay in "/usr/local/sbin/".
              With Putty and "/usr/local/sbin/udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 5353 --dev igb1 --dev igb1.12 --multicast 224.0.0.251 -s 1.1.1.1 -f > /dev/null" everything works perfectly but not in pfSene (command prompt) itself.

              Hi @itar - please take a look at my post above, I think you might be missing the /usr/bin/nohup command as part of the ShellCmd:

              https://forum.netgate.com/topic/155698/how-can-i-get-this-udp-relay-package-for-casting-across-vlans/37

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                Itar
                last edited by

                Hi tman222,

                thank you very much!

                I read your post, but I thought it would also work with "/usr/local/sbin" instead of "/root/udpbroadcastrelay/". Now I copied "udpbroadcastrelay" to root... and it works like a charm

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                  tman222 @Itar
                  last edited by

                  @itar said in How can I get this UDP relay package for casting across VLANs?:

                  Hi tman222,

                  thank you very much!

                  I read your post, but I thought it would also work with "/usr/local/sbin" instead of "/root/udpbroadcastrelay/". Now I copied "udpbroadcastrelay" to root... and it works like a charm

                  Hi @Itar - I would have expected it to work from /usr/local/sbin as well as long as you have the /usr/local/nohup and call the executable by ./udpbroadcastrelay if needed (note the ./) The instructions above are bit dated back from when we had to compile the code manually to create the binary vs. installing it as a FreeBSD package.

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                    Itar
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                    Hi tman222,

                    no, I tried /usr/bin/nohup /usr/local/sbin/udpbroadcastrelay/./udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 5353 --dev igb0 --dev igb1 --multicast 224.0.0.251 -s 1.1.1.1 -f > /dev/null but it didn't work.

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                      Itar
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                        tman222 @Itar
                        last edited by

                        @itar said in How can I get this UDP relay package for casting across VLANs?:

                        Hi tman222,

                        no, I tried /usr/bin/nohup /usr/local/sbin/udpbroadcastrelay/./udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 5353 --dev igb0 --dev igb1 --multicast 224.0.0.251 -s 1.1.1.1 -f > /dev/null but it didn't work.

                        Hmmm - do either of these work?

                        /usr/bin/nohup /usr/local/sbin/./udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 5353 --dev igb0 --dev igb1 --multicast 224.0.0.251 -s 1.1.1.1 -f > /dev/null
                        

                        or

                        /usr/bin/nohup /usr/local/sbin/udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 5353 --dev igb0 --dev igb1 --multicast 224.0.0.251 -s 1.1.1.1 -f > /dev/null
                        
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                          Itar @tman222
                          last edited by

                          Ahhhhh,

                          /usr/bin/nohup /usr/local/sbin/udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 5353 --dev igb0 --dev igb1 --multicast 224.0.0.251 -s 1.1.1.1 -f > /dev/null

                          is working! 👍

                          Thanks!

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                            CaptainCathode @Itar
                            last edited by CaptainCathode

                            Re: How can I get this UDP relay package for casting across VLANs?

                            So I just came across this thread after trying for over a day to get Sonos clients on my LAN subnet discovering the Sonos devices on an isolated IOT subnet using the PIMD package as a multicast reflector.

                            IOS clients that had previously been connected when everything was on the same subnet continue to work once the relevant firewall rules were setup, but new clients (Mac, Win10) can't discover the Sonos device.

                            I've removed PIMD, rebooted and installed the package as per the instructions above. I'm seeing the following error when trying to run the command (as root) with the debug option:

                            # udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 1900 --dev igb1 --dev igb2 --multicast 239.255.255.250 -d
                            ID set to 1
                            Port set to 1900
                            ID: 1 (DSCP: 1, ToS: 0x04), Port 1900
                            igb1: 2 / 172.16.10.1 / 172.16.10.255
                            igb2: 3 / 172.16.20.1 / 172.16.20.255
                            found 2 interfaces total
                            IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP:		172.16.10.1 239.255.255.250
                            IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP:		172.16.20.1 239.255.255.250
                            bind: Address already in use
                            rcv bind
                            
                            

                            Not sure what would already be using 239.255.255.250:1900 or how to go about debugging from here.

                            Any pointers greatly appreciated

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                              Qinn
                              last edited by

                              did you do a ps to check if it is already running?

                              Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                              Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                              Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                CaptainCathode @Qinn
                                last edited by CaptainCathode

                                There are no other instances of udpbroadcastrelay running but pfTop shows an existing state from the pfsense interface on the IOT subnet.

                                pfTop: Up State 1-1/1 (545), View: default, Order: bytes
                                PR        DIR SRC                           DEST                                   STATE                AGE       EXP     PKTS    BYTES
                                udp       Out 172.16.20.1:52980             239.255.255.250:1900               SINGLE:NO_TRAFFIC   00:02:52  00:00:09      132    62676
                                

                                I'll try temporarily powering down all other devices on that subnet and see if that helps

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                                • QinnQ
                                  Qinn
                                  last edited by Qinn

                                  The way to check if it running and to stop udpbroadcastrelay is using the ps command and kill the process using it's process number (PID)

                                  [2.5.0-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: ps
                                    PID TT  STAT     TIME COMMAND
                                   7615 u0- S    41:14.27 /usr/local/sbin/pcscd
                                  60580 u0  Is    0:00.02 login [pam] (login)
                                  60845 u0  I     0:00.01 -sh (sh)
                                  61388 u0  I+    0:00.01 /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                                   2456 v0  I     0:00.02 -sh (sh)
                                   3896 v0  I+    0:00.01 /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                                  99884 v0  Is    0:00.02 login [pam] (login)
                                    188 v1  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1
                                    330 v2  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2
                                    368 v3  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3
                                    579 v4  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4
                                    592 v5  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5
                                   1002 v6  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6
                                   1293 v7  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7
                                   6730  0  S     0:00.00 udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 1900 --dev igb1.1005 --dev igb1.1007 --multicast 239.255.255.250 -f
                                   6919  0  R+    0:00.01 ps
                                  41171  0  Is    0:00.02 -sh (sh)
                                  41565  0  I     0:00.01 /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                                  45295  0  S     0:00.12 /bin/tcsh
                                  
                                  
                                  /root: kill 6730
                                  
                                  
                                  [2.5.0-RELEASE][root@pfSense.localdomain]/root: ps
                                    PID TT  STAT     TIME COMMAND
                                   7615 u0- S    41:14.29 /usr/local/sbin/pcscd
                                  60580 u0  Is    0:00.02 login [pam] (login)
                                  60845 u0  I     0:00.01 -sh (sh)
                                  61388 u0  I+    0:00.01 /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                                   2456 v0  I     0:00.02 -sh (sh)
                                   3896 v0  I+    0:00.01 /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                                  99884 v0  Is    0:00.02 login [pam] (login)
                                    188 v1  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1
                                    330 v2  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2
                                    368 v3  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv3
                                    579 v4  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv4
                                    592 v5  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv5
                                   1002 v6  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv6
                                   1293 v7  Is+   0:00.01 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv7
                                  37961  0  R+    0:00.00 ps
                                  41171  0  Is    0:00.02 -sh (sh)
                                  41565  0  I     0:00.01 /bin/sh /etc/rc.initial
                                  45295  0  S     0:00.13 /bin/tcsh
                                  
                                  

                                  Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                  Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                  Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                    sinbox_pfs @CaptainCathode
                                    last edited by sinbox_pfs

                                    @captaincathode Would be good to disable other related plugins and/or other firewall rules on you IoT subnet like Avahi etc if you ever had them installled.

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                                      sinbox_pfs
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                                      Anyone here using HomeKit across VLAN’s? I have Apple’s Home app successfully work to recognise and control many devices on my IoT VLAN’s.

                                      One minor annoyance I have been having is with a particular smart home device - Meross Garage opener (HomeKit version). Their mobile app works fine over VLAN’s, however via the native Apple Home app(& via Siri) I’m unable to open the garage on the first request (even though the app acknowledges that the request has been successfully completed). The subsequent call / 2nd request always works like a charm and the garage opens up consistently. This means my garage door automations don’t work as expected via the Shortcuts or Home App.

                                      I’m wondering if that’s due to the nature of VLAN hops and how that specific device works across VLAN’s? Or some other issue related to HomeKit or the Home App on iOS itself? FWIW, I have plenty of other IoT devices(eg Light Bulbs, Sonos speakers etc) connected via HomeBridge all of which work fine (mostly :-)) on the first attempt.

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                                        CaptainCathode @sinbox_pfs
                                        last edited by CaptainCathode

                                        Getting back to this after nearly two weeks of being too busy to look at it . . .

                                        I found that UPnP/NAT-PMP was preventing udpbroadcastrelay from starting. I have an XBox One on the same IOT subnet, and pfSense is configured to allow it to use UPnP.

                                        If I stop the UpNP/NAT-PMP daemon (miniupnpd) I can successfully start udpbroadcastrelay and my Sonos controller can now see the devices across subnets.

                                        udpbroadcastrelay --id 1 --port 1900 --dev igb1 --dev igb2 --multicast 239.255.255.250 -d
                                        

                                        Of course then I can't start miniupnpd again until the udpbroadcastrelay process is killed, so it seems the two are mutually exclusive, or at least when both are trying to use UDP 1900 (SSDP) on multicast address (239.255.255.250).

                                        Other than moving the XBox or Sonos devices into their own VLAN, I can't see a workable solution here, but admittedly my IPv4 multicast knowledge is pretty basic.

                                        Any further suggestions welcomed.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes, you can't have two processes listening on the same port like that. You can either relay the SSDP packets or accept and use them with UPnP. Or be more secure and do neither. 😉

                                          Steve

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                                            spaceboy
                                            last edited by spaceboy

                                            Took a look at this as i was hoping it could help me overcome what PIMD seemingly could not, that is the initial discovery of SONOS devices on other VLANS. My set up was working fine once the controller had been connected to the SONOS VLAN and cached the ip addresses.

                                            Unfortunately it does not. Followed what seems to be the fairly straightforward step by step guide by Qinn in post 55 and everything seems to work but nothing is discovered when i restart the pfsense.

                                            Shellcmd per below
                                            19402587-9712-4b73-8b4e-b8cab4e18648-image.png

                                            is there any way i can check it is properly running? other than SONOS detection working :)

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